Want to criticize pitbulls? Do it here!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was on a beach in Delaware once and saw a pit bull grab another dog (sitting on a towel with its owner) by the neck and kill it. Just walking by and casually killed it nbd. Owner of the dead dog was traumatized, police were called, etc. My kid was a tween and was upset by it all.

Same thing happened just outside my neighborhood. Neighbor with the most adorable small dog that we all loved was walking it on a leash and a guy who let his pit off leash saw the dog and killed in so fast there was barely time to react.

The guy saw the small dog and let his "pit" off leash to kill it? And the pit just swooped in silently and killed, no bark, no time to react?

Didn't happen, but what a story!

[Anonymous]

I saw a pitbull carrying an AR15 towards a elementary school. But fortunately, dogs don’t understand days of the week, and this happened on a Sunday morning. So there were no kids there for it to shoot and then maul.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw a pitbull carrying an AR15 towards a elementary school. But fortunately, dogs don’t understand days of the week, and this happened on a Sunday morning. So there were no kids there for it to shoot and then maul.

tru fax

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was on a beach in Delaware once and saw a pit bull grab another dog (sitting on a towel with its owner) by the neck and kill it. Just walking by and casually killed it nbd. Owner of the dead dog was traumatized, police were called, etc. My kid was a tween and was upset by it all.

Same thing happened just outside my neighborhood. Neighbor with the most adorable small dog that we all loved was walking it on a leash and a guy who let his pit off leash saw the dog and killed in so fast there was barely time to react.

The guy saw the small dog and let his "pit" off leash to kill it? And the pit just swooped in silently and killed, no bark, no time to react?

Didn't happen, but what a story!

You can deny it all you want, and even embellish someone else’s story with details they didn’t give, but these things do happen, all too frequently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was on a beach in Delaware once and saw a pit bull grab another dog (sitting on a towel with its owner) by the neck and kill it. Just walking by and casually killed it nbd. Owner of the dead dog was traumatized, police were called, etc. My kid was a tween and was upset by it all.

Same thing happened just outside my neighborhood. Neighbor with the most adorable small dog that we all loved was walking it on a leash and a guy who let his pit off leash saw the dog and killed in so fast there was barely time to react.

The guy saw the small dog and let his "pit" off leash to kill it? And the pit just swooped in silently and killed, no bark, no time to react?

Didn't happen, but what a story!

You can deny it all you want, and even embellish someone else’s story with details they didn’t give, but these things do happen, all too frequently.

Someone's off-leash small dog killed a cat right in front of me. JRT. They're known for it.

Do you see the commonality here? It's not the breed, it's the lack of leash.

Stupidly claiming that it's "pit bulls" only emboldens owners of other breeds to do the exact same dangerous clownshoe behavior that's at the root of the actual problem: unleashed, untrained, unmanaged dogs allowed to run loose.

[Anonymous]

Pit bull owners are idiots

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was on a beach in Delaware once and saw a pit bull grab another dog (sitting on a towel with its owner) by the neck and kill it. Just walking by and casually killed it nbd. Owner of the dead dog was traumatized, police were called, etc. My kid was a tween and was upset by it all.

Same thing happened just outside my neighborhood. Neighbor with the most adorable small dog that we all loved was walking it on a leash and a guy who let his pit off leash saw the dog and killed in so fast there was barely time to react.

The guy saw the small dog and let his "pit" off leash to kill it? And the pit just swooped in silently and killed, no bark, no time to react?

Didn't happen, but what a story!

Np. Huh? You are not very bright. A classic pit bull owner. Pp didn’t say the guy did it on purpose, only that the pit was off leash and killed the other dog quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pit bull owners are idiots

Deep thoughts from such a shallow mind.

[Anonymous]

NP here. Can someone explain to me why there seems to be a lobby behind this breed to encourage people to give them a chance and adopt them from shelters? Is it the shelters wanting to home dogs regardless of whether they're appropriate for the people or not? I'm so sick of people acting like there's no risk associated with owning this breed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was on a beach in Delaware once and saw a pit bull grab another dog (sitting on a towel with its owner) by the neck and kill it. Just walking by and casually killed it nbd. Owner of the dead dog was traumatized, police were called, etc. My kid was a tween and was upset by it all.

Same thing happened just outside my neighborhood. Neighbor with the most adorable small dog that we all loved was walking it on a leash and a guy who let his pit off leash saw the dog and killed in so fast there was barely time to react.

The guy saw the small dog and let his "pit" off leash to kill it? And the pit just swooped in silently and killed, no bark, no time to react?

Didn't happen, but what a story!

You can deny it all you want, and even embellish someone else’s story with details they didn’t give, but these things do happen, all too frequently.

Someone's off-leash small dog killed a cat right in front of me. JRT. They're known for it.

Do you see the commonality here? It's not the breed, it's the lack of leash.

Stupidly claiming that it's "pit bulls" only emboldens owners of other breeds to do the exact same dangerous clownshoe behavior that's at the root of the actual problem: unleashed, untrained, unmanaged dogs allowed to run loose.

A pit in our neighborhood snapped the neck of a stray cat while ON a leash right in front of our house. It happened so fast I almost couldn't believe what I was seeing.

The commonality here is an animal who is bred for a certain physicality and disposition, including a violently strong jaw and killer instincts, and then being treated like a normal pet.

Most dogs don't have the strength to harm anyone in the same way. They aren't built for it. Pit bulls are. They are built for it and they have been bred for aggression and violence for a long time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP here. Can someone explain to me why there seems to be a lobby behind this breed to encourage people to give them a chance and adopt them from shelters? Is it the shelters wanting to home dogs regardless of whether they're appropriate for the people or not? I'm so sick of people acting like there's no risk associated with owning this breed.

I think it's a circular issue. We wound up with a ton of pit bulls in shelters because a lot of unscrupulous pit owners intentionally do not get them fixed (because they wanted these dogs specifically for their aggression and they believed getting them fixed would undermine that aggression). Once there were tons of pits and pit mixes in shelters, people who are animal lovers and passionate about "adopt don't shop" wind up adopting pits and pit mixes. And at that point they feel they HAVE to defend the dogs. Because they are opposed to euthanizing dogs in general and because they are often owners of pits. They ignore the danger these animals pose or the fact that the very reason shelters are full of pits is because of the way this breed has been bred and handled for a long time and focus instead on their relationship with their specific dog and on a general opposition towards euthanasia.

And the thing is, some of these pit owners STILL won't get those dogs fixed and continue to contribute to the problem. Pits remain a breed of choice for "security dogs" as well as people who fight dogs. So the problem just perpetuates. And you can't have a rational conversation about it. It's very frustrating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was on a beach in Delaware once and saw a pit bull grab another dog (sitting on a towel with its owner) by the neck and kill it. Just walking by and casually killed it nbd. Owner of the dead dog was traumatized, police were called, etc. My kid was a tween and was upset by it all.

Same thing happened just outside my neighborhood. Neighbor with the most adorable small dog that we all loved was walking it on a leash and a guy who let his pit off leash saw the dog and killed in so fast there was barely time to react.

The guy saw the small dog and let his "pit" off leash to kill it? And the pit just swooped in silently and killed, no bark, no time to react?

Didn't happen, but what a story!

You can deny it all you want, and even embellish someone else’s story with details they didn’t give, but these things do happen, all too frequently.

Someone's off-leash small dog killed a cat right in front of me. JRT. They're known for it.

Do you see the commonality here? It's not the breed, it's the lack of leash.

Stupidly claiming that it's "pit bulls" only emboldens owners of other breeds to do the exact same dangerous clownshoe behavior that's at the root of the actual problem: unleashed, untrained, unmanaged dogs allowed to run loose.

A pit in our neighborhood snapped the neck of a stray cat while ON a leash right in front of our house. It happened so fast I almost couldn't believe what I was seeing.

The commonality here is an animal who is bred for a certain physicality and disposition, including a violently strong jaw and killer instincts, and then being treated like a normal pet.

Most dogs don't have the strength to harm anyone in the same way. They aren't built for it. Pit bulls are. They are built for it and they have been bred for aggression and violence for a long time.

Good. Stray/outdoor/wandering cats are horrid, kill wild birds, spread diseases, and should be eliminated entirely.

Or, at least, it would be good. If it happened. Which it didn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here. Can someone explain to me why there seems to be a lobby behind this breed to encourage people to give them a chance and adopt them from shelters? Is it the shelters wanting to home dogs regardless of whether they're appropriate for the people or not? I'm so sick of people acting like there's no risk associated with owning this breed.

I think it's a circular issue. We wound up with a ton of pit bulls in shelters because a lot of unscrupulous pit owners intentionally do not get them fixed (because they wanted these dogs specifically for their aggression and they believed getting them fixed would undermine that aggression). Once there were tons of pits and pit mixes in shelters, people who are animal lovers and passionate about "adopt don't shop" wind up adopting pits and pit mixes. And at that point they feel they HAVE to defend the dogs. Because they are opposed to euthanizing dogs in general and because they are often owners of pits. They ignore the danger these animals pose or the fact that the very reason shelters are full of pits is because of the way this breed has been bred and handled for a long time and focus instead on their relationship with their specific dog and on a general opposition towards euthanasia.

And the thing is, some of these pit owners STILL won't get those dogs fixed and continue to contribute to the problem. Pits remain a breed of choice for "security dogs" as well as people who fight dogs. So the problem just perpetuates. And you can't have a rational conversation about it. It's very frustrating.

Shelters will put violent dogs down. Shelters won't train adopters beyond basic parting instructions. The problem is not the shelters. The problem is idiot dog owners who don't properly train and restrain their dogs.

The reason we can't have a rational conversation about it is all over this thread: ignorant people who've never had or even known a "pit bull" lumping 5 distinct breeds under one umbrella and calling them all evil, citing every clickbait "news" article they can find to support their hysteria, juking the stats instead of considering the ratio of pitbulls to problems to other breeds, and acting like only "pit bulls" cause problems instead of realizing that they're dogs, and all dogs bite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP here. Can someone explain to me why there seems to be a lobby behind this breed to encourage people to give them a chance and adopt them from shelters? Is it the shelters wanting to home dogs regardless of whether they're appropriate for the people or not? I'm so sick of people acting like there's no risk associated with owning this breed.

Have you ever known a pittie? They are incredibly loyal, gentle, goofy dogs. That a few of them are bred and trained to violence doesn't negate the fact that the overwhelming majority of them make great pets. Like any breed, ANY BREED, they must be properly trained and socialized. I'm sick of people acting like they don't have to train their dogs, taking them everywhere like fscking accessories, and then blaming the breed when there are problems. There are no bad dogs. There are irresponsible owners (ignorantly or intentionally).

Another point: for those who are new to dogs, the "scary dogs" right now are "pit bulls" (which are not a breed; it's an umbrella label applied to 5 distinct breeds, and knowing the difference explains a lot about why shelters adopt out "pit bulls", most of which are staffies or apbts, and not XL bully type dogs like the ones usually found in hysteria clickbait not-news). A decade or so ago, it was Rottweilers, which are capable of just as much damage as pit bulls, especially when similarly trained for violence and poorly handled. Before that, Dobermans. Before that, GSDs. Probably something else before that; I'm not old enough to remember. The hysteria comes in waves, and when you recognize that pattern, you become better at sorting the stupidity from any actual facts.

There are too many dogs in general, but most importantly: there are too many stupid people irresponsibly owning and breeding dogs. There's the risk: humans. Smarter people can be educated. Stupid people make threads like this one, dumping their blanket judgments and regurgitated fearmongering out into the world, helping no one (and looking idiotic in the process).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here. Can someone explain to me why there seems to be a lobby behind this breed to encourage people to give them a chance and adopt them from shelters? Is it the shelters wanting to home dogs regardless of whether they're appropriate for the people or not? I'm so sick of people acting like there's no risk associated with owning this breed.

Have you ever known a pittie? They are incredibly loyal, gentle, goofy dogs. That a few of them are bred and trained to violence doesn't negate the fact that the overwhelming majority of them make great pets. Like any breed, ANY BREED, they must be properly trained and socialized. I'm sick of people acting like they don't have to train their dogs, taking them everywhere like fscking accessories, and then blaming the breed when there are problems. There are no bad dogs. There are irresponsible owners (ignorantly or intentionally).

Another point: for those who are new to dogs, the "scary dogs" right now are "pit bulls" (which are not a breed; it's an umbrella label applied to 5 distinct breeds, and knowing the difference explains a lot about why shelters adopt out "pit bulls", most of which are staffies or apbts, and not XL bully type dogs like the ones usually found in hysteria clickbait not-news). A decade or so ago, it was Rottweilers, which are capable of just as much damage as pit bulls, especially when similarly trained for violence and poorly handled. Before that, Dobermans. Before that, GSDs. Probably something else before that; I'm not old enough to remember. The hysteria comes in waves, and when you recognize that pattern, you become better at sorting the stupidity from any actual facts.

There are too many dogs in general, but most importantly: there are too many stupid people irresponsibly owning and breeding dogs. There's the risk: humans. Smarter people can be educated. Stupid people make threads like this one, dumping their blanket judgments and regurgitated fearmongering out into the world, helping no one (and looking idiotic in the process).

You are delusional. Truly delusional. Get help