Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So Trump is an idiot savant multi-decade criminal mastermind mafia boss laundering money for foreign countries, selling national secrets, tax fraud, on and on and on… but the most they can get on him is some alleged document theft from his last few hours in the WH?

Got it.

It's a bit embarrassing, isn't it? What's wrong with our local, state, federal LEO? Or federal financial agencies? Anyone?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really curious about what he stole from the white house. This can't be just like the Clintons taking a couple of tables or what not. I feel like it must be related to national security.

They said it was classified documents.

Maybe TFG was planning to tell us all who really killed JFK! And the FBI has swooped in to take back the docs before Trump can self-publish the truth!

Trump already declassified and released a whole bunch of JFK documents and then Biden released more.
https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release2021

The documents in question that Trump took to Mar-a-Lago are current and extremely not OK to be confiscated.
“Some of the presidential records recovered from former president Donald Trump’s residence at Mar-a-Lago are so sensitive they may not be able to be described in forthcoming inventory reports in an unclassified way, two people familiar with the matter said Friday.
The revelation comes as Rep. Carolyn B. Maloney (D-N.Y.) sent the National Archives and Records Administration a request for further information on 15 boxes of records recovered from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort last month. The Archives set Friday as its deadline for an inventory of the contents.
https://wapo.st/3ddeewM

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Anonymous wrote:This is a scary development, and I wish more people knew history. We will set a precedent in this country of prosecuting political rivals, and the republicans will do the same thing the next time a republican president is elected. And presidents will know that they can NEVER surrender power, since they’d be prosecuted after leaving office. So that will force them to seize dictatorial powers. This is exactly what happened with Julius Caesar and is how the Roman republic ended. Prosecuting political rivals will put us on the path to a civil war, which will end with one party authoritarian rule.

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This is a serious question. Are you assuming there is NO probable cause? What if there is probable cause - should they not raid bc he is a former president? What scenarios are you okay and not okay with this raid? Again, serious question.

Correct. They should not prosecute this “crime” precisely because he is a former president and prospective front runner. Because everyone knows that any prosecution is not actually about enforcing the Presidential Records Act, it is instead a pure power play. And power plays are returned in kind by the other side. This is exactly how civil wars start.

So any President can commit any crime whatsoever because investigating them could cause a civil war? That’s a recipe for a banana republic.

Do you think that there, just maybe, is a spectrum of criminal violations and that, if so, that records retention rules might be on the “not so important” end of that spectrum?

Honest question, if the next GOP president decides to audit every prominent Democrat and then charge many of them with tax code violations, would you think that would be ok? Do you see how prosecuting trump could set a precedent that could lead to things like that? Honest question.

It's not like he took an envelope or two. He took boxes and boxes of classified documents that simply weren't his property. If you honestly think this is normal in our democracy, you might want to check in with anyone at the National Archives to understand just what an unprecedented crime this is.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a scary development, and I wish more people knew history. We will set a precedent in this country of prosecuting political rivals, and the republicans will do the same thing the next time a republican president is elected. And presidents will know that they can NEVER surrender power, since they’d be prosecuted after leaving office. So that will force them to seize dictatorial powers. This is exactly what happened with Julius Caesar and is how the Roman republic ended. Prosecuting political rivals will put us on the path to a civil war, which will end with one party authoritarian rule.

+1

This is a serious question. Are you assuming there is NO probable cause? What if there is probable cause - should they not raid bc he is a former president? What scenarios are you okay and not okay with this raid? Again, serious question.

Correct. They should not prosecute this “crime” precisely because he is a former president and prospective front runner. Because everyone knows that any prosecution is not actually about enforcing the Presidential Records Act, it is instead a pure power play. And power plays are returned in kind by the other side. This is exactly how civil wars start.

So any President can commit any crime whatsoever because investigating them could cause a civil war? That’s a recipe for a banana republic.

Do you think that there, just maybe, is a spectrum of criminal violations and that, if so, that records retention rules might be on the “not so important” end of that spectrum?

Honest question, if the next GOP president decides to audit every prominent Democrat and then charge many of them with tax code violations, would you think that would be ok? Do you see how prosecuting trump could set a precedent that could lead to things like that? Honest question.

Why are you so sure this raid is solely about the Presidential Records Act? That is the reason that has leaked publically, which is convenient for the Justice Dept because that investigation was already known. However, given the dangerous precedent you describe, it’s highly unlikely that Merrick Garland’s Justice Dept would execute a search warrant/ pursue an indictment solely based on the violation of the PRA. It’s possible there were multiple crimes cited on the warrant that haven’t leaked. It’s also possible that the content of the illegally taken documents implicates Trump on more serious charges. We will not know this until indictments come out. The Justice Dept hasn’t had any leaks before taking such dramatic action. They aren’t going to leak about other investigations and tip their hats.

Perhaps the “records retention act” violation was a pretext to grab all the documents they could find, to go on a fishing expedition to find other potential crimes to charge him with.

After the NY AG, southern district NY, and Bob Mueller spent mega millions on aces and wasted untold man hours and found… jack squat. Now we need another fishing expedition. Oy vey.

[Anonymous]

Dems just guaranteed that Trump will run and likely win in ‘24. What a shit-show these morons have unleashed.

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Anonymous wrote:Fact:

Suck it the F**K UP. He’s a F**KING criminal. We all know it.

This is what happens.

Yes, we “know” that our political opponents are criminals. So just throw them in jail before they can run for office! Perfect, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dems just guaranteed that Trump will run and likely win in ‘24. What a shit-show these morons have unleashed.

How funny! But no, that's not what the DOJ just did.

[Anonymous]

Well, there was that time that Trump told Russia about Israeli programs.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/11/trump-intel-slip/amp

So its not like he has a great track record of discretion.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a scary development, and I wish more people knew history. We will set a precedent in this country of prosecuting political rivals, and the republicans will do the same thing the next time a republican president is elected. And presidents will know that they can NEVER surrender power, since they’d be prosecuted after leaving office. So that will force them to seize dictatorial powers. This is exactly what happened with Julius Caesar and is how the Roman republic ended. Prosecuting political rivals will put us on the path to a civil war, which will end with one party authoritarian rule.

+1

This is a serious question. Are you assuming there is NO probable cause? What if there is probable cause - should they not raid bc he is a former president? What scenarios are you okay and not okay with this raid? Again, serious question.

Correct. They should not prosecute this “crime” precisely because he is a former president and prospective front runner. Because everyone knows that any prosecution is not actually about enforcing the Presidential Records Act, it is instead a pure power play. And power plays are returned in kind by the other side. This is exactly how civil wars start.

Why don't you google how many democracies in the modern era have prosecuted former leaders-- successfully-- and life carried on peacefully afterward? It will put your mind at ease. (And they are more appropriate comparisons than ancient Rome.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So Desantis knew about it and did not let Donald know.

Why would DeSantis know about this?

If Biden didn't know, I'm guessing they didn't give DeSantis. a heads up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dems just guaranteed that Trump will run and likely win in ‘24. What a shit-show these morons have unleashed.

Seems they’re trying to get him on a technicality that would forbid him from seeking office again. And truthfully, I could see Trump secretly wanting this. He doesn’t have to risk losing, he can just be a lazy glorified martyr for the GOP. Win win.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So Trump is an idiot savant multi-decade criminal mastermind mafia boss laundering money for foreign countries, selling national secrets, tax fraud, on and on and on… but the most they can get on him is some alleged document theft from his last few hours in the WH?

Got it.

It's a bit embarrassing, isn't it? What's wrong with our local, state, federal LEO? Or federal financial agencies? Anyone?

Almost as if it’s a false premise!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a scary development, and I wish more people knew history. We will set a precedent in this country of prosecuting political rivals, and the republicans will do the same thing the next time a republican president is elected. And presidents will know that they can NEVER surrender power, since they’d be prosecuted after leaving office. So that will force them to seize dictatorial powers. This is exactly what happened with Julius Caesar and is how the Roman republic ended. Prosecuting political rivals will put us on the path to a civil war, which will end with one party authoritarian rule.

Et tu, moron?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So Trump is an idiot savant multi-decade criminal mastermind mafia boss laundering money for foreign countries, selling national secrets, tax fraud, on and on and on… but the most they can get on him is some alleged document theft from his last few hours in the WH?

Got it.

It's a bit embarrassing, isn't it? What's wrong with our local, state, federal LEO? Or federal financial agencies? Anyone?

Almost as if it’s a false premise!

Well no. Since we know why several of the investigations didn't proceed. It wasn't because of lack of evidence...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dems just guaranteed that Trump will run and likely win in ‘24. What a shit-show these morons have unleashed.

Seems they’re trying to get him on a technicality that would forbid him from seeking office again. And truthfully, I could see Trump secretly wanting this. He doesn’t have to risk losing, he can just be a lazy glorified martyr for the GOP. Win win.

You must be talking about the republican establishment. The democrats would welcome another Trump run.