Did anyone here about the 11 people injured, 2 killed eating outside of the Parthenon today?

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Anonymous wrote:Start tossing the geriatrics who pull this sht in jail and people will wise up real quick.

Exactly. Call them what you want, they are murderers, and their kids are accomplices because they knowingly let them drive.

Not everyone lives close to their parents.

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You know who causes most of the traffic fatalities in the US - men under 25, but yeah Pick on the old people.

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Anonymous wrote:Start tossing the geriatrics who pull this sht in jail and people will wise up real quick.

Exactly. Call them what you want, they are murderers, and their kids are accomplices because they knowingly let them drive.

Not everyone lives close to their parents.

Yes, and if it is legal, we cannot force aging parents who live far away, to stop driving. I tried for years to get my father to stop driving but could not convince him. I did refuse to drive with him though, or to let him drive my DC. Thankfully he stopped before anyone was injured.

I believe that we need laws and yearly tests after the age of 75 or 80.

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I wonder if the driver feels bad about this, or whether he externalizes it as an accident that wasn’t his fault.

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Anonymous wrote:This is tragic and horrible. Why would it be funny?

95 year old MIL thought it was the big bamboozle to go into the DMV, fail the vision test 3 times, and have the clerk grant her her driver's license, anyway. Legally blind and driving. Wonderful.

Why you know she is going to hurt someone you must take away the keys every adult child is responsible for taking the keys from a relative who is unable to drive

How do you propose the adult child do that from someone who refuses? Physically assaulting someone until they are unable to resist and then stealing their possessions is a crime.

You follow the appropriate process in your state. In Maryland, you submit a letter to the MVA (it can be anonymous) and report your concerns and ask them to evaluate the driver. The person’s physician can also contact the MVA.

That might take away their license, it doesn't take away their keys. Plenty of people drive without a license.

OK, then when they get caught willfully driving without a valid license, toss them in jail. No more “oh, poor baby.”

You might want to think about this policy just a little bit.

I am the pp they were responding to, that said "That might take away their license..."
Why? Why should people who drive without a valid license not face jail time? As far as I'm concerned, they should be jailed for the rest of their lives-that will stop them from driving without a license again!

Our jails will be full of minorities that drove with out licenses.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/06/no-drivers-license-no-job/486653/

And Congressman Cawthorn.

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Anonymous wrote:This is tragic and horrible. Why would it be funny?

95 year old MIL thought it was the big bamboozle to go into the DMV, fail the vision test 3 times, and have the clerk grant her her driver's license, anyway. Legally blind and driving. Wonderful.

Why you know she is going to hurt someone you must take away the keys every adult child is responsible for taking the keys from a relative who is unable to drive

How do you propose the adult child do that from someone who refuses? Physically assaulting someone until they are unable to resist and then stealing their possessions is a crime.

You follow the appropriate process in your state. In Maryland, you submit a letter to the MVA (it can be anonymous) and report your concerns and ask them to evaluate the driver. The person’s physician can also contact the MVA.

This is good to know, thank you.

I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but here is the link to the Maryland MVA page that explains how to anonymously submit a letter of concern about someone's driving. I think most states have something similar:

https://mva.maryland.gov/safety/Pages/older/mva-medical-advisory-board.aspx
"In addition, the MVA accepts referrals from concerned private citizens – neighbors, friends, and family - of drivers with potential problems regarding their ability to drive. A letter of concern should be submitted via email or fax to the MVA contact information. The letter of concern should include as much of the basic information as possible. If the concerned citizen wishes to remain anonymous, they should indicate that wish in their communication to the MVA."

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Anonymous wrote:This is tragic and horrible. Why would it be funny?

95 year old MIL thought it was the big bamboozle to go into the DMV, fail the vision test 3 times, and have the clerk grant her her driver's license, anyway. Legally blind and driving. Wonderful.

Why you know she is going to hurt someone you must take away the keys every adult child is responsible for taking the keys from a relative who is unable to drive

How do you propose the adult child do that from someone who refuses? Physically assaulting someone until they are unable to resist and then stealing their possessions is a crime.

You follow the appropriate process in your state. In Maryland, you submit a letter to the MVA (it can be anonymous) and report your concerns and ask them to evaluate the driver. The person’s physician can also contact the MVA.

This is good to know, thank you.

I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but here is the link to the Maryland MVA page that explains how to anonymously submit a letter of concern about someone's driving. I think most states have something similar:

https://mva.maryland.gov/safety/Pages/older/mva-medical-advisory-board.aspx
"In addition, the MVA accepts referrals from concerned private citizens – neighbors, friends, and family - of drivers with potential problems regarding their ability to drive. A letter of concern should be submitted via email or fax to the MVA contact information. The letter of concern should include as much of the basic information as possible. If the concerned citizen wishes to remain anonymous, they should indicate that wish in their communication to the MVA."

That's great but accepting a referral does not guarantee the license will be taken away. Many of these drivers are able to "put on their best performance" when necessary for a test or evaluation, but in regularly daily driving will get complacent.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is tragic and horrible. Why would it be funny?

95 year old MIL thought it was the big bamboozle to go into the DMV, fail the vision test 3 times, and have the clerk grant her her driver's license, anyway. Legally blind and driving. Wonderful.

Why you know she is going to hurt someone you must take away the keys every adult child is responsible for taking the keys from a relative who is unable to drive

How do you propose the adult child do that from someone who refuses? Physically assaulting someone until they are unable to resist and then stealing their possessions is a crime.

You follow the appropriate process in your state. In Maryland, you submit a letter to the MVA (it can be anonymous) and report your concerns and ask them to evaluate the driver. The person’s physician can also contact the MVA.

This is good to know, thank you.

I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but here is the link to the Maryland MVA page that explains how to anonymously submit a letter of concern about someone's driving. I think most states have something similar:

https://mva.maryland.gov/safety/Pages/older/mva-medical-advisory-board.aspx
"In addition, the MVA accepts referrals from concerned private citizens – neighbors, friends, and family - of drivers with potential problems regarding their ability to drive. A letter of concern should be submitted via email or fax to the MVA contact information. The letter of concern should include as much of the basic information as possible. If the concerned citizen wishes to remain anonymous, they should indicate that wish in their communication to the MVA."

That's great but accepting a referral does not guarantee the license will be taken away. Many of these drivers are able to "put on their best performance" when necessary for a test or evaluation, but in regularly daily driving will get complacent.

Maybe - but it is worth a try - to save one or more innocent lives.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Start tossing the geriatrics who pull this sht in jail and people will wise up real quick.

Exactly. Call them what you want, they are murderers, and their kids are accomplices because they knowingly let them drive.

Not everyone lives close to their parents.

Yes, and if it is legal, we cannot force aging parents who live far away, to stop driving. I tried for years to get my father to stop driving but could not convince him. I did refuse to drive with him though, or to let him drive my DC. Thankfully he stopped before anyone was injured.

I believe that we need laws and yearly tests after the age of 75 or 80.

This. I am not able to get my dad to stop driving even though I firmly believe and have gently said that it is time. But I have no means to enforce this while he retains his license.

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Anonymous wrote:You know who causes most of the traffic fatalities in the US - men under 25, but yeah Pick on the old people.

This point has been brought up several times but no one seems to want to comment on it. If people want to advocate for testing older people every year then they should support doing the same for MALES of certain age groups, as they have the highest fatality rates.

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Agree men under 25 need to be psychologically tested annually to get a license, as should men and women over 80 be physically tested. These are the offending drivers.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know of a service where I could call an Uber for my mother in another state? She does not use a cell phone. She is 82.

Use a cab service. Many places have a voucher system where you can pre-pay.

I wish that existed where my mom lives, but it does not.

Uber is there, but no cab service?

That's true where I live, too. There are a few cabs, but they mostly serve the (municipal) airport.

Ubers have been a godsend.

This is true in many towns. However, Uber only serves people who have and know how to use smart phones. This is not the case for most elderly. Also many cannot afford one on their fixed income. Ask me how I know.

My 80-something mom has the customer service department of whatever store she is at call her a cab. It is often an hour or two wait time.

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Anonymous wrote:You know who causes most of the traffic fatalities in the US - men under 25, but yeah Pick on the old people.

This point has been brought up several times but no one seems to want to comment on it. If people want to advocate for testing older people every year then they should support doing the same for MALES of certain age groups, as they have the highest fatality rates.

The reason people don't want to discuss it is because limiting younger drivers would be inconvenient and many posters here aren't that far past 25. No one thinks they will ever get old. Everyone thinks that if they do get old they will be soooo much better and smarter than the stupid old people they see around them. Finally we don't value or respect our elderly here. So many think that old people should just move to Green Acres assisted living and be happy and not go out and about reminding people of their own frailties and mortality.

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Anonymous wrote:You know who causes most of the traffic fatalities in the US - men under 25, but yeah Pick on the old people.

This point has been brought up several times but no one seems to want to comment on it. If people want to advocate for testing older people every year then they should support doing the same for MALES of certain age groups, as they have the highest fatality rates.

Males under the age of 25 were literally just tested/evaluated within the last decade.

Drivers over the age of 75 haven't been evaluated in 50 years!

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Anonymous wrote:You know who causes most of the traffic fatalities in the US - men under 25, but yeah Pick on the old people.

No one is picking on anyone. You can't change who drove the car in the incident of topic. You can however, start your own thread on your topic.