Half of British women reach age 30 without having a child

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What the hell do you expect?

Wages don't grow. Housing is completely unaffordable. Childcare costs are insane. Healthcare is ludicrous. Even if you had kids, stupid minivan to haul them around to soccer practice now costs $40k. And don't even talk about college costs....

You want to die in poverty? Have a kid.

Younger generations didn't create these problems. They're the ones that have to live with them though. The only solution is to not have kids just so that you can keep your financial head above water.

It's not money, it's decades of Hollywood and feminist propaganda. It's "cool" and "sophisticated" and "worldly" to piss away your prime fertility years living in the big city and traveling and waiting two hours to be seated for a hip brunch and rising the ladder at your make-work career, so you can piss more money away on shoes, travel, and instagram-worthy furniture. #GirlBoss #LeanIn

Because it's a lot of fun to travel and buy shoes? Mom who had her 1st in her 40s and still misses the travel and spontaneity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don’t know anyone who had a child before 30. And I got married young. I had my first at 30 and was one of the youngest.

+1

Well, there was this girl in HS who dropped out. But everyone else who figured out how to use birth control waited until they were ready.

Imagine being smug about waiting until your 30s to have your first child. High probability you and/or your husband die before you experience the joy of grandchildren.

+1

I wouldn't worry about that, gen Zer don't want kids. You're worried about your social security and Medicare cash cows, admit it.

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Anonymous wrote:Judging based on my family, friends and acquaintances, I feel it's the case for every developed country.

Except Israel

Jewish people are way more forward thinking and optimistic about the future.

Well, there the high tfr is mainly driven by the ultra-orthodox. Secular Jews don’t have a very high birth rate.

This. It’s like how Utah’s numbers are driven by religious Mormons but my secular friends in Salt Lake City all don’t have kids until later and have far fewer kids

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What the hell do you expect?

Wages don't grow. Housing is completely unaffordable. Childcare costs are insane. Healthcare is ludicrous. Even if you had kids, stupid minivan to haul them around to soccer practice now costs $40k. And don't even talk about college costs....

You want to die in poverty? Have a kid.

Younger generations didn't create these problems. They're the ones that have to live with them though. The only solution is to not have kids just so that you can keep your financial head above water.

It's not money, it's decades of Hollywood and feminist propaganda. It's "cool" and "sophisticated" and "worldly" to piss away your prime fertility years living in the big city and traveling and waiting two hours to be seated for a hip brunch and rising the ladder at your make-work career, so you can piss more money away on shoes, travel, and instagram-worthy furniture. #GirlBoss #LeanIn

Maybe a woman’s worth isn’t determined by fertility. And aren’t teenagers really the ones in their prime fertility years? Just think of all the kids you could have to support Social Security and Medicare if you started at 14 instead of waiting until your 20s. Who cares about about school when you could be a mother—the most important part of being a woman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Being a mother is literally THE most important job any woman can do. What other occupation contributes more to humanity than sustaining our species?

And yet, I have seen in my own Catholic family that the number of children has gone from 5-8 kids per family to 0-2 kids per family. That trend goes back to the early 60s and the availability of the pill, then the opening of the workplace so the life options for women expanded greatly and, finally, the decline in the number of men's jobs that can support a family at the same/better lifestyle than they grew up with.

I maintain that those first two factors are wonderful. The third factor is unfortunate but true people like us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Being a mother is literally THE most important job any woman can do. What other occupation contributes more to humanity than sustaining our species?

And yet, I have seen in my own Catholic family that the number of children has gone from 5-8 kids per family to 0-2 kids per family. That trend goes back to the early 60s and the availability of the pill, then the opening of the workplace so the life options for women expanded greatly and, finally, the decline in the number of men's jobs that can support a family at the same/better lifestyle than they grew up with.

I maintain that those first two factors are wonderful. The third factor is unfortunate but true people like us.

Even among Mormons, family size is declining. I see it in my own family. Mormon families are still bigger than other families but smaller than they used to be. Part of this is the Mormon church’s changed views on contraception.

[Anonymous]

If you grew up in a big family like mine with 8 kids, you would understand why people do not want kids

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you grew up in a big family like mine with 8 kids, you would understand why people do not want kids

You must really hate your life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you grew up in a big family like mine with 8 kids, you would understand why people do not want kids

No I had self control and stopped at one.
You must really hate your life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really don’t know anyone who had a child before 30. And I got married young. I had my first at 30 and was one of the youngest.

I had mine (planned) at 26, but my spouse is older. And we are one & done.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you grew up in a big family like mine with 8 kids, you would understand why people do not want kids

No I had self control and stopped at one.
You must really hate your life.

DP.. my mom had four, and I'm fairly certain she only wanted two. But, she comes from a culture and time when birth control was not widely used.

Every one of my siblings has less than 2 -- 0, 1, 2 and 2.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you grew up in a big family like mine with 8 kids, you would understand why people do not want kids

Is this one of my siblings posted? Even my mom says she would never have so many on today’s society. It just isn’t tenable.
I really don’t blame anyone that doesn’t want kids. Reproduction is really pretty selfish — we just all want adorable little snuggly babies and then someone to hopefully grow up as mini-me’s.
Otherwise we’d all just adopt older kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What the hell do you expect?

Wages don't grow. Housing is completely unaffordable. Childcare costs are insane. Healthcare is ludicrous. Even if you had kids, stupid minivan to haul them around to soccer practice now costs $40k. And don't even talk about college costs....

You want to die in poverty? Have a kid.

Younger generations didn't create these problems. They're the ones that have to live with them though. The only solution is to not have kids just so that you can keep your financial head above water.

It's not money, it's decades of Hollywood and feminist propaganda. It's "cool" and "sophisticated" and "worldly" to piss away your prime fertility years living in the big city and traveling and waiting two hours to be seated for a hip brunch and rising the ladder at your make-work career, so you can piss more money away on shoes, travel, and instagram-worthy furniture. #GirlBoss #LeanIn

Oooooo the anti-brunch guy is back!!! I missed you and your rants against women going to brunch!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What the hell do you expect?

Wages don't grow. Housing is completely unaffordable. Childcare costs are insane. Healthcare is ludicrous. Even if you had kids, stupid minivan to haul them around to soccer practice now costs $40k. And don't even talk about college costs....

You want to die in poverty? Have a kid.

Younger generations didn't create these problems. They're the ones that have to live with them though. The only solution is to not have kids just so that you can keep your financial head above water.

It's not money, it's decades of Hollywood and feminist propaganda. It's "cool" and "sophisticated" and "worldly" to piss away your prime fertility years living in the big city and traveling and waiting two hours to be seated for a hip brunch and rising the ladder at your make-work career, so you can piss more money away on shoes, travel, and instagram-worthy furniture. #GirlBoss #LeanIn

Maybe a woman’s worth isn’t determined by fertility. And aren’t teenagers really the ones in their prime fertility years? Just think of all the kids you could have to support Social Security and Medicare if you started at 14 instead of waiting until your 20s. Who cares about about school when you could be a mother—the most important part of being a woman.

Yes, why do we even allow girls to attend HS at all?

They should be knocked up by 16 at the very latest. That way they can pump out 20 spawn before the uterus prolapses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What the hell do you expect?

Wages don't grow. Housing is completely unaffordable. Childcare costs are insane. Healthcare is ludicrous. Even if you had kids, stupid minivan to haul them around to soccer practice now costs $40k. And don't even talk about college costs....

You want to die in poverty? Have a kid.

Younger generations didn't create these problems. They're the ones that have to live with them though. The only solution is to not have kids just so that you can keep your financial head above water.

It's not money, it's decades of Hollywood and feminist propaganda. It's "cool" and "sophisticated" and "worldly" to piss away your prime fertility years living in the big city and traveling and waiting two hours to be seated for a hip brunch and rising the ladder at your make-work career, so you can piss more money away on shoes, travel, and instagram-worthy furniture. #GirlBoss #LeanIn

Oooooo the anti-brunch guy is back!!! I missed you and your rants against women going to brunch!!!

Is it really a dude? Gross.

I assumed it was a cranky old religious hag.