Girl's School and Gender Pronouns

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are applying to Holton, take a serious look. Susanna Jones is leaving but not until 2023. It should be interesting who ends up with her job. They are afraid of the big bad wolf. You would not believe. Just peruse the instagram accounts of some of the students.

You're encouraging adults to browse the ig of teens?

YES! Don't you check your kid's IG?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are applying to Holton, take a serious look. Susanna Jones is leaving but not until 2023. It should be interesting who ends up with her job. They are afraid of the big bad wolf. You would not believe. Just peruse the instagram accounts of some of the students.

You're encouraging adults to browse the ig of teens?

YES! Don't you check your kid's IG?!

No, not since she was 12.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well now we have LD and mentally disordered people taking a page from the LGBTQ activist manual so get ready for that wave of privilege and attention and quotas.
It’s just “thinking differently” so accommodate and comply.

How do you relate your incredibly ignorant comment to the topic of this thread?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well now we have LD and mentally disordered people taking a page from the LGBTQ activist manual so get ready for that wave of privilege and attention and quotas.
It’s just “thinking differently” so accommodate and comply.

This is offensive, ignorant and unnecessary.

Students with learning differences have been learning to quietly advocate for their needs for many years well before this gender fluidity phenom. Teachers who are trained to engage different kinds of learners actually fare better with neuro typical students since the teaching empowers all students (understanding how they learn best, engaging as many senses as possible to learn material, and managing time and materials in most effective ways.

Also many students with learning differences have very high IQs and it is better for society to be able to utilize their many gifts (such as lateral thinking, big picture thinking, creative problem solving) rather than to stigmatize them and squander their gifts.

+1,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why not call them students instead of girls. And seriously does your handbook really say “girls”, our handbook always said young ladies.

It’s just weird you are stuck on the word girl.

Young ladies, as in "X is a school for young ladies" sounds very dated and old fashioned.
I prefer "girls". (NP)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see a number of people on this thread confident that the changes being proposed by the students would never be implemented. I wish I were as confident. It is women and others not speaking up for logic and rationality in this space that has led us to where we are today.

I assume that everyone has seen the news about the recent U Penn student who competed with the mens swim team for several years, "transitioned", and is now competing against women and blowing them out of the literal water? So sad for young women who have trained their entire lives and now being handily beaten by a student with a male body. No one is standing up for these women - it is an abomination.

You know who should be standing up for these girls, and all girls everywhere caught up in institutions promoting this madness? Their mothers.

TRYING!!!

Trying here too. Will actively and passively encourage my daughter to stay away from these cuckoo kids and similar cuckoo parents engaging in gender fluidity. It is truly the worst trend.

I don't think one needs to stay away from anyone, as you will not know for whom it is a trend and for whom it is their real identity that they are finally able to feel confident showing. However, I really think there is a HUGE difference between a school who's mission is girls' education changing their language vs individual students deciding they want to use they/them pronouns. The whole point of parents applying to that school was because it is a girls school. If they or the child want to be in a gender neutral place they should move to a co-ed institution. But, if they stay they should except that the language will assume that the student body is comprised of girls, although they should be shown respect should they want to go by another pronoun, but the institution will not redo all their language to fit the tiny portion of students who have chosen, after the fact, to go by something other than she/her.

[Anonymous]

+ 1000


I am onboard for choosing pronouns and showing respect but there are other opportunities for HS. Go elsewhere and be who you want to be.

DD chose not to attend all-girls school. I was hoping they would as I attended an all girls school and loved the environment. Even though I don’t have a child in these schools now, I hate the way we need to downplay ‘girls’ and ‘women’ to the younger generation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone with children younger than 10 has not fully been exposed to this wide ranging trend. It is ripping through our pre-adolescent and adolescent girls at an incredibly high rate. It is now cool to be bisexual, transgender, and queer. Apparently lesbian and gay are out of fashion. I mean, they get to fly a rainbow flag. How cool is that? I asked my “daughter” what flag do I get to fly and she said the straight flag was black and white. That’s what I get?

I figure if she can get someone else to call her by a different name and use different pronouns, that’s on her. We are just ignoring it at home. This is a child with zero gender issues from birth to age 15.

Still, I wonder what will happen in these girls schools. They will not be insulated from it. As I mentioned above, I hope the schools take a hard stand and mostly ignore it. There’s no way I can remember the preferred pronouns in my daughters circle of (girl)friends. Let alone being a teacher with 100+ kids to remember. If you look like a girl, I will use female pronouns. If you look like a boy, I will use male pronouns. And if we decide as a society we want to update our language then that’s going to take a few years. Pronouns are not offensive by their nature.

Really hoping this far dies out before too many years pass

+1000

While Rome burns, this is what your $45K tuition a year at Holton will get you. You "ladies" and your "girls" do realize that China is kicking our asses in STEM, right?"

Totally off topic, bue who cares if other nations also develop great STEM? It improves the lives of all. I'm tired of drummed up nationalist "fights." World Peace!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone with children younger than 10 has not fully been exposed to this wide ranging trend. It is ripping through our pre-adolescent and adolescent girls at an incredibly high rate. It is now cool to be bisexual, transgender, and queer. Apparently lesbian and gay are out of fashion. I mean, they get to fly a rainbow flag. How cool is that? I asked my “daughter” what flag do I get to fly and she said the straight flag was black and white. That’s what I get?

I figure if she can get someone else to call her by a different name and use different pronouns, that’s on her. We are just ignoring it at home. This is a child with zero gender issues from birth to age 15.

Still, I wonder what will happen in these girls schools. They will not be insulated from it. As I mentioned above, I hope the schools take a hard stand and mostly ignore it. There’s no way I can remember the preferred pronouns in my daughters circle of (girl)friends. Let alone being a teacher with 100+ kids to remember. If you look like a girl, I will use female pronouns. If you look like a boy, I will use male pronouns. And if we decide as a society we want to update our language then that’s going to take a few years. Pronouns are not offensive by their nature.

Really hoping this far dies out before too many years pass

+1000

While Rome burns, this is what your $45K tuition a year at Holton will get you. You "ladies" and your "girls" do realize that China is kicking our asses in STEM, right?"

Totally off topic, bue who cares if other nations also develop great STEM? It improves the lives of all. I'm tired of drummed up nationalist "fights." World Peace!

You should go to a school strong on international affairs and national security.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to pull my hair out if it is Holton. We have remained silent over many thing there but this would be a bridge too far. I think it would be sad if they suddenly decided that there is wrong with the word girl. Should be a source of pride.

I would also like to know if it is Holton. We are in the process of applying, precisely because we want a girls school, and this, if true, would give me serious pause.

No matter where you send your child, there will be other kids at the school pushing for the same thing. Even at boys schools, certainly at co-ed schools. Pay more attention to how the administration handles these sticky, student-driven advocacy moves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank God it isn't Stone Ridge. I hope they stay off that track. We hope to enroll our daughter this year.

PS Because it is a school that goes as young as K, I sincerely doubt they would ever adopt this on a whole school level.

If you think this won't be an issue, you're so wrong.

There have been trans students at SR for several years now.

They ain't going anywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone with children younger than 10 has not fully been exposed to this wide ranging trend. It is ripping through our pre-adolescent and adolescent girls at an incredibly high rate. It is now cool to be bisexual, transgender, and queer. Apparently lesbian and gay are out of fashion. I mean, they get to fly a rainbow flag. How cool is that? I asked my “daughter” what flag do I get to fly and she said the straight flag was black and white. That’s what I get?

I figure if she can get someone else to call her by a different name and use different pronouns, that’s on her. We are just ignoring it at home. This is a child with zero gender issues from birth to age 15.

Still, I wonder what will happen in these girls schools. They will not be insulated from it. As I mentioned above, I hope the schools take a hard stand and mostly ignore it. There’s no way I can remember the preferred pronouns in my daughters circle of (girl)friends. Let alone being a teacher with 100+ kids to remember. If you look like a girl, I will use female pronouns. If you look like a boy, I will use male pronouns. And if we decide as a society we want to update our language then that’s going to take a few years. Pronouns are not offensive by their nature.

Really hoping this far dies out before too many years pass

+1000

While Rome burns, this is what your $45K tuition a year at Holton will get you. You "ladies" and your "girls" do realize that China is kicking our asses in STEM, right?"

Totally off topic, bue who cares if other nations also develop great STEM? It improves the lives of all. I'm tired of drummed up nationalist "fights." World Peace!

Hahahahaha. You are too cute.

Why don’t you mail a letter to the Chinese premier and tell him just that, along with your wish for World Peace for Christmas

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to pull my hair out if it is Holton. We have remained silent over many thing there but this would be a bridge too far. I think it would be sad if they suddenly decided that there is wrong with the word girl. Should be a source of pride.

I would also like to know if it is Holton. We are in the process of applying, precisely because we want a girls school, and this, if true, would give me serious pause.

No matter where you send your child, there will be other kids at the school pushing for the same thing. Even at boys schools, certainly at co-ed schools. Pay more attention to how the administration handles these sticky, student-driven advocacy moves.

Very good point. The real issue is does the administration know how to react to things like this in an adult, leadership manner or do they allow the inmates to run the asylum

[Anonymous]

NCS is really doing no better at handling this issue. The administration is beholden to the Glasgow Group and we’ve got minders at each level to monitor our wokeness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are applying to Holton, take a serious look. Susanna Jones is leaving but not until 2023. It should be interesting who ends up with her job. They are afraid of the big bad wolf. You would not believe. Just peruse the instagram accounts of some of the students.

You're encouraging adults to browse the ig of teens?

YES! Don't you check your kid's IG?!

If you do not keep some kind of eye on what is going on then I would wonder about your involvement in your kids lives. The public instagram accounts of the schools are right online along with additional accounts created by angry students one way or the other. So, yes in answer to your question.