Cogat and NNAt 2021 Scores Sharing thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is V of 127 considered strong enough if Q is super high?

Quantitative is how high - more than 140, more than 150?
If verbal is 127, NV will also be looked at. Is that also in 120s?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is V of 127 considered strong enough if Q is super high?

Quantitative is how high - more than 140, more than 150?
If verbal is 127, NV will also be looked at. Is that also in 120s?

For instance, Q143 NV135

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is V of 127 considered strong enough if Q is super high?

Quantitative is how high - more than 140, more than 150?
If verbal is 127, NV will also be looked at. Is that also in 120s?

For instance, Q143 NV135

Generally if not all 3 subsections, then any two sub sections should be high enough. If Quantitative plus NV are high then Verbal little below 130 is fine.
This year, I think it will not be just the GBRS that will be very important. High Cogat and High GBRS the chances of acceptance increase a lot. But it’s n the end the process is not transparent, so it also depends on factors like in this years batch of kids how many kids from
High SES schools scored more than 150/140 in cogat, how many got a great GBRS and on pure luck.
The kids who are bright, scored high and in lower SES schools and title 1 schools got lucky this year due to implementation of local building norms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is V of 127 considered strong enough if Q is super high?

Quantitative is how high - more than 140, more than 150?
If verbal is 127, NV will also be looked at. Is that also in 120s?

For instance, Q143 NV135

We have very similar stats and am hopeful it will be OK. V129, Q141, NV133

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is V of 127 considered strong enough if Q is super high?

Quantitative is how high - more than 140, more than 150?
If verbal is 127, NV will also be looked at. Is that also in 120s?

For instance, Q143 NV135

Generally if not all 3 subsections, then any two sub sections should be high enough. If Quantitative plus NV are high then Verbal little below 130 is fine.
This year, I think it will not be just the GBRS that will be very important. High Cogat and High GBRS the chances of acceptance increase a lot. But it’s n the end the process is not transparent, so it also depends on factors like in this years batch of kids how many kids from
High SES schools scored more than 150/140 in cogat, how many got a great GBRS and on pure luck.
The kids who are bright, scored high and in lower SES schools and title 1 schools got lucky this year due to implementation of local building norms.

DP here. So I wonder if the ability profile matters as well. I don’t remember seeing it a few years back(older dc is in 4th grade aap iv)

[Anonymous]

B profile is more common. 40% or more fall in the B ability profile. A is the best but not many kids fall in that category. C and E are not considered that good.

[Anonymous]

Does anybody know when the local school submits the AAP package to the Central Selection Committee and when parents can request a copy of the package?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:B profile is more common. 40% or more fall in the B ability profile. A is the best but not many kids fall in that category. C and E are not considered that good.

That is NOT precise. If you get every sub equally low score, you will also be in the category A. If you get every high in two subs but relative low in the third one (still high compare to your peer), you can still be in category C.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:B profile is more common. 40% or more fall in the B ability profile. A is the best but not many kids fall in that category. C and E are not considered that good.

That is NOT precise. If you get every sub equally low score, you will also be in the category A. If you get every high in two subs but relative low in the third one (still high compare to your peer), you can still be in category C.

I assumed the op talked about stanine of 9.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:B profile is more common. 40% or more fall in the B ability profile. A is the best but not many kids fall in that category. C and E are not considered that good.

That is NOT precise. If you get every sub equally low score, you will also be in the category A. If you get every high in two subs but relative low in the third one (still high compare to your peer), you can still be in category C.

I assumed the op talked about stanine of 9.

Even for 9, the scores of a 9C profile can be higher than those of a 9B. Based on two kids I know, one with V132 Q143 NV150 is 9C, and the other with V128 Q140 NV148 is 9B. Both of them are very smart kids. Which one is better?

[Anonymous]

Any ability profile with higher scores is better than A profile with lower scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any ability profile with higher scores is better than A profile with lower scores.

Do you mean Cogat composite is most important?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any ability profile with higher scores is better than A profile with lower scores.

Do you mean Cogat composite is most important?

Yes, the cut off is based on composite. A Kid who barely meets the cutoff in only one subsection is a red flag. At least 2 subsections have to be well above cutoff with the third subsection not too less in the range on 100 or so but anywhere above 125.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any ability profile with higher scores is better than A profile with lower scores.

Do you mean Cogat composite is most important?

Yes, the cut off is based on composite. A Kid who barely meets the cutoff in only one subsection is a red flag. At least 2 subsections have to be well above cutoff with the third subsection not too less in the range on 100 or so but anywhere above 125.

Some years it was, some years it wasn't. When my oldest kid was admitted it was based on any subsection or the composite. My kid only made it in 1 subsection and the composite. Kid is fine in AAP.

Being above the cut-off in 2 subsections is what's required to get into Loudoun's gifted program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:B profile is more common. 40% or more fall in the B ability profile. A is the best but not many kids fall in that category. C and E are not considered that good.

That is NOT precise. If you get every sub equally low score, you will also be in the category A. If you get every high in two subs but relative low in the third one (still high compare to your peer), you can still be in category C.

I assumed the op talked about stanine of 9.

Even for 9, the scores of a 9C profile can be higher than those of a 9B. Based on two kids I know, one with V132 Q143 NV150 is 9C, and the other with V128 Q140 NV148 is 9B. Both of them are very smart kids. Which one is better?

Better at what? And does it even matter? Both of those kids are well above the average scores of level IV admitted children.