Cogat and NNAt 2021 Scores Sharing thread

[Anonymous]

As a parent with 3 children over 140 on cogat (last one is in pool this year), I will also say I hope they move toward just automatically accepting in pool. I spent so much time on all of the packets because it was just so obvious to me that my kids needed more, and the scores should have been enough alone to get them in. In a lot of ways if felt so high stakes because if they did not get in, the school wouldn’t work for them at all and I would have had to find another option. So the paperwork for the very high scoring kids should be eliminated.

The current child in pool has 3/4 scores over 147 so I can’t imagine the child won’t get in … and yet, there was literally zero read from the teacher at the conference so I didn’t want to chance it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a parent with 3 children over 140 on cogat (last one is in pool this year), I will also say I hope they move toward just automatically accepting in pool. I spent so much time on all of the packets because it was just so obvious to me that my kids needed more, and the scores should have been enough alone to get them in. In a lot of ways if felt so high stakes because if they did not get in, the school wouldn’t work for them at all and I would have had to find another option. So the paperwork for the very high scoring kids should be eliminated.

The current child in pool has 3/4 scores over 147 so I can’t imagine the child won’t get in … and yet, there was literally zero read from the teacher at the conference so I didn’t want to chance it.

I can’t say I disagree with you but FCPS can’t legally do this. Per VDOE regulations they must consider information from multiple sources in making admissions decisions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pyramid NNAT Cogat composite Cogat Verbal Cogat Quantitative Cogat Non-Verbal In pool
Oakton 140 127 ? ? ? ?
Marshall 120 132 ? ? ? ?
? 106 138 ? ? ? ?
Herndon 142 140 ? ? ? ?
McLean 129 110 110 113 109 No
Langley 126 131 118 127 135 No
McLean ? 131 ? ? ? No
Marshall 111 132 128 121 135 No
Edison ? 133 ? ? ? No
Lake Braddock 133 131 138 112 No
Oakton 133 136 ? ? ? No
WestSpringfield 128 132 122 134 127 Yes
Justice 140 139 118 141 136 Yes
Langley ? 140 ? ? ? Yes
McLean ? 140 124 140 135 Yes
FallsChurch 119 141 129 141 133 Yes
Marshall 134 142 132 142 131 Yes
Chantilly 120 142 117 144 141 Yes
Madison 160 142 ? ? ? Yes
Madison 123 142 148 138 123 Yes
Marshall 154 143 ? ? ? Yes
Madison ? 143 ? ? ? Yes
McLean ? 145 ? ? ? Yes
McLean 152 146 135 147 131 Yes
McLean ? 146 ? ? ? Yes
Langley 137 147 ? ? ? Yes
McLean 160 152 ? ? ? Yes
Robinson 140 ? 132 115 132 Yes
Lewis
Mt. Vernon
South Lakes
West Potomac

This is a good and very helpful list. Anyone else receive theirs?

[Anonymous]

The cogat composite cutoff can be anywhere between 120 to 140.
It depends on how many % of kids score about a particular score. If many kids scored between 120 to 135 in your school, the cutoff will be more than 135.
This is the first year this local Norms are being implemented with equity as the main and the only focus.

[Anonymous]

Interested to know how this works since it’s the 1st year implementation of local norms.

[Anonymous]

Is the cogat composite that is important or any subsection that’s more important?
I have heard quantitative is the most important, followed by Non verbal and then verbal.

[Anonymous]

I’m not fully sure but quantitative is the most important since it’s math. NV is about stem and critical thinking. Verbal is also important but scoring low on verbal doesn’t mean kid is not an avid reader or a creative writer. Some kids are more comfortable with words than pictures.

[Anonymous]

Has anyone tried COGAT retest? If so, did you have to give entire test again or just section of your choice?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not fully sure but quantitative is the most important since it’s math. NV is about stem and critical thinking. Verbal is also important but scoring low on verbal doesn’t mean kid is not an avid reader or a creative writer. Some kids are more comfortable with words than pictures.

The averages from the outside consultant show that quant is the highest mean of accepted kids, then NV, then verbal is the lowest mean score.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not fully sure but quantitative is the most important since it’s math. NV is about stem and critical thinking. Verbal is also important but scoring low on verbal doesn’t mean kid is not an avid reader or a creative writer. Some kids are more comfortable with words than pictures.

The averages from the outside consultant show that quant is the highest mean of accepted kids, then NV, then verbal is the lowest mean score.

Thanks!
This means quantitative is the most important, then NV and then Verbal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not fully sure but quantitative is the most important since it’s math. NV is about stem and critical thinking. Verbal is also important but scoring low on verbal doesn’t mean kid is not an avid reader or a creative writer. Some kids are more comfortable with words than pictures.

The averages from the outside consultant show that quant is the highest mean of accepted kids, then NV, then verbal is the lowest mean score.

Thanks!
This means quantitative is the most important, then NV and then Verbal.

Or, there is not too much variance on V or NV, but huge variance on Q. That’s why the Q plays “more important” role in screening out the admitted group?

[Anonymous]

I have my son coming up for Cogat next year....let me start beating him up on Qant..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is the cogat composite that is important or any subsection that’s more important?
I have heard quantitative is the most important, followed by Non verbal and then verbal.

Not sure either, but I think V and Q are more important than NV. If the Q is strong and V is not, kid can thrive in Level III( advanced math and gen ed language arts)

[Anonymous]

Is V of 127 considered strong enough if Q is super high?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is V of 127 considered strong enough if Q is super high?

I think so.