CNN Special - Moms who voted for Biden explain why they voted for a Republican(Youngkin) in Virginia

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that they don’t have a diverse group says volumes. I have Black, Latina, even an Afghani American friend who all voted for Y. It’s not that hard to find.

Who doesn’t have a diverse group?

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.

I honestly don’t see how Republicans can stage a violent insurrection on the Capitol and then have the rest of the party whitewash it and support changes to state election laws in the name of election fraud than never occurred and face no election consequences.

Exactly.

Summer 2020 - local school districts decide to take cautious approach to deadly, global pandemic in light of parents/teachers concerns and a lot of uncertainty. After surge subsided & teachers are vaccinated (and willing to go back), kids are back in building. Following CDC safety guidelines. At the state level schools can open. Districts are free to decide based on local conditions.

January 2021 - Trump supporters storm the Capitol, goaded by Trump and his Big Lie. People are killed. Pipe bombs placed at DNC/RNC headquarters. We are fearful in our home as we hear about stashes of weapons nearby. After this, the GOP still continues to push The Big Lie with legislation to address “election integrity” by restricting voters and election officials.

But yeah the Ds are the bad guys here. Unbelievable.

Your version of "Summer" 2020 is a revisionist fantasy so it is impossible to take you seriously.

Which part was inaccurate? It was spot on.

The return of kids to school was not linked to any surge (look at the timing). Teachers were prioritized ahead of far more vulnerable population groups for vaccines but did not go back; in fact refused to go back. The timing was not "Summer 2020," it was approximately 18 months of time.

You also left off the enormous amount of documented learning loss that has impacted the most vulnerable children in the state the most, and the fact that there appears to be little documented evidence of outbreaks tied to school globally, and the fact that Democratic policies with respect to covid did not (and still do not) appear to be grounded in science.

Summer 2020 (July / August) - school districts decided to start off virtual
Fall 2020 - schools feared impending surge - stick with virtual
January 2021 - teachers can get vaccine, #s start declining dramatically
February / March 2021 - schools start bringing kids back into classroom

Learning loss is huge and needs to be addressed. But that doesn’t change the fact that schools had a reasonable approach then given knowledge and resources at that time.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that they don’t have a diverse group says volumes. I have Black, Latina, even an Afghani American friend who all voted for Y. It’s not that hard to find.

Who doesn’t have a diverse group?

CNN

CNN has an agenda, through and through. They want everyone to think it’s White women who support Republicans. It’s their narrative. They don’t want to talk about the plethora of women of other races (me included) who are turned off by the ridiculous rhetoric of the current Democratic Party.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.

I honestly don’t see how Republicans can stage a violent insurrection on the Capitol and then have the rest of the party whitewash it and support changes to state election laws in the name of election fraud than never occurred and face no election consequences.

Exactly.

Summer 2020 - local school districts decide to take cautious approach to deadly, global pandemic in light of parents/teachers concerns and a lot of uncertainty. After surge subsided & teachers are vaccinated (and willing to go back), kids are back in building. Following CDC safety guidelines. At the state level schools can open. Districts are free to decide based on local conditions.

January 2021 - Trump supporters storm the Capitol, goaded by Trump and his Big Lie. People are killed. Pipe bombs placed at DNC/RNC headquarters. We are fearful in our home as we hear about stashes of weapons nearby. After this, the GOP still continues to push The Big Lie with legislation to address “election integrity” by restricting voters and election officials.

But yeah the Ds are the bad guys here. Unbelievable.

Your version of "Summer" 2020 is a revisionist fantasy so it is impossible to take you seriously.

Which part was inaccurate? It was spot on.

The return of kids to school was not linked to any surge (look at the timing). Teachers were prioritized ahead of far more vulnerable population groups for vaccines but did not go back; in fact refused to go back. The timing was not "Summer 2020," it was approximately 18 months of time.

You also left off the enormous amount of documented learning loss that has impacted the most vulnerable children in the state the most, and the fact that there appears to be little documented evidence of outbreaks tied to school globally, and the fact that Democratic policies with respect to covid did not (and still do not) appear to be grounded in science.

Summer 2020 (July / August) - school districts decided to start off virtual
Fall 2020 - schools feared impending surge - stick with virtual
January 2021 - teachers can get vaccine, #s start declining dramatically
February / March 2021 - schools start bringing kids back into classroom

Learning loss is huge and needs to be addressed. But that doesn’t change the fact that schools had a reasonable approach then given knowledge and resources at that time.

Wow. You really believe your version of pandemic school closure history. It's just not true, but it is remarkable how strongly you believe it.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.

I honestly don’t see how Republicans can stage a violent insurrection on the Capitol and then have the rest of the party whitewash it and support changes to state election laws in the name of election fraud than never occurred and face no election consequences.

Exactly.

Summer 2020 - local school districts decide to take cautious approach to deadly, global pandemic in light of parents/teachers concerns and a lot of uncertainty. After surge subsided & teachers are vaccinated (and willing to go back), kids are back in building. Following CDC safety guidelines. At the state level schools can open. Districts are free to decide based on local conditions.

January 2021 - Trump supporters storm the Capitol, goaded by Trump and his Big Lie. People are killed. Pipe bombs placed at DNC/RNC headquarters. We are fearful in our home as we hear about stashes of weapons nearby. After this, the GOP still continues to push The Big Lie with legislation to address “election integrity” by restricting voters and election officials.

But yeah the Ds are the bad guys here. Unbelievable.

Your version of "Summer" 2020 is a revisionist fantasy so it is impossible to take you seriously.

Which part was inaccurate? It was spot on.

The return of kids to school was not linked to any surge (look at the timing). Teachers were prioritized ahead of far more vulnerable population groups for vaccines but did not go back; in fact refused to go back. The timing was not "Summer 2020," it was approximately 18 months of time.

You also left off the enormous amount of documented learning loss that has impacted the most vulnerable children in the state the most, and the fact that there appears to be little documented evidence of outbreaks tied to school globally, and the fact that Democratic policies with respect to covid did not (and still do not) appear to be grounded in science.

Summer 2020 (July / August) - school districts decided to start off virtual
Fall 2020 - schools feared impending surge - stick with virtual
January 2021 - teachers can get vaccine, #s start declining dramatically
February / March 2021 - schools start bringing kids back into classroom

Learning loss is huge and needs to be addressed. But that doesn’t change the fact that schools had a reasonable approach then given knowledge and resources at that time.

Other school districts all over the country stayed open last year in various ways (hybrid, full-time). The DMV (and CA) was one of the few areas where schools were closed for as long as they were.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.

I honestly don’t see how Republicans can stage a violent insurrection on the Capitol and then have the rest of the party whitewash it and support changes to state election laws in the name of election fraud than never occurred and face no election consequences.

Exactly.

Summer 2020 - local school districts decide to take cautious approach to deadly, global pandemic in light of parents/teachers concerns and a lot of uncertainty. After surge subsided & teachers are vaccinated (and willing to go back), kids are back in building. Following CDC safety guidelines. At the state level schools can open. Districts are free to decide based on local conditions.

January 2021 - Trump supporters storm the Capitol, goaded by Trump and his Big Lie. People are killed. Pipe bombs placed at DNC/RNC headquarters. We are fearful in our home as we hear about stashes of weapons nearby. After this, the GOP still continues to push The Big Lie with legislation to address “election integrity” by restricting voters and election officials.

But yeah the Ds are the bad guys here. Unbelievable.

Your version of "Summer" 2020 is a revisionist fantasy so it is impossible to take you seriously.

Which part was inaccurate? It was spot on.

The return of kids to school was not linked to any surge (look at the timing). Teachers were prioritized ahead of far more vulnerable population groups for vaccines but did not go back; in fact refused to go back. The timing was not "Summer 2020," it was approximately 18 months of time.

You also left off the enormous amount of documented learning loss that has impacted the most vulnerable children in the state the most, and the fact that there appears to be little documented evidence of outbreaks tied to school globally, and the fact that Democratic policies with respect to covid did not (and still do not) appear to be grounded in science.

Summer 2020 (July / August) - school districts decided to start off virtual
Fall 2020 - schools feared impending surge - stick with virtual
January 2021 - teachers can get vaccine, #s start declining dramatically
February / March 2021 - schools start bringing kids back into classroom

Learning loss is huge and needs to be addressed. But that doesn’t change the fact that schools had a reasonable approach then given knowledge and resources at that time.

Wow. You really believe your version of pandemic school closure history. It's just not true, but it is remarkable how strongly you believe it.

This. The PP’s account isn’t how it happened at all.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.

Still throwing that tantrum, huh?

So irrational.

Keep digging. You'll lose even more in the next election cycle.

Yes, jerks will lash out in spite whenever they are called out for their bad behavior.

You haven't successfully called out anyone. You are just flailing. So not only are you incompetent, you are providing an object lesson in Democratic failure for the class.

I’ve been calling people out for their tantrums for over a year now.

Not successfully. You do seem to be doing a bang-up job of campaigning for the Republican party, though.

If you are measuring my success on whether I was able to stop the tantrums by calling them out, then it’s true that I failed. Tantrums continue today.

You might be more successful if you stop pretending everyone who disagrees with you is "having a tantrum." If you treat adults like they are two years old, you really should not be surprised if they vote against you.

I wonder if that poster is actually a Republican troll trying to get people to vote Republican.

+1 to it being a troll. They have the same line about tantrums on repeat and no real response to anyone that actually engages them.

I have engaged in good faith for over a year. I called out the tantrums. The parents cursing at teachers over zoom. Screaming at school board meetings. It was disgusting.

I’m not running for office. If you are voting based on comments from anonymous posters on a mommy website then we have bigger issues with grown a$$ adults throwing tantrums. Which they did. And continue to do.

With all of your good faith efforts, I don’t quite understand your failure to acknowledge the current shortcomings of the Democratic Party, of which there are plenty. If they don’t take a good hard look in the mirror, and at the progressive wing of their party in particular, they are going to lose control of Congress in 2022 and the White House in 2024. I don’t disagree that the behavior of many parents at school board meetings was disgusting, but you’re also throwing insults at people who chose instead to speak at the polls and oust Democratic leadership for how they handled have managed schools during the pandemic. No one here has intimated that they based their votes on posts on a mommy website, and your continued insistence that anyone who voted for Youngkin did so because they are unintelligent or irrational is getting old. But hey good luck with this attitude in the next round of elections, seems like a winning formula

I have acknowledged the Ds’ failures. Just not on this particular sub-thread.

This one is about the people who did behave poorly. Including rewriting history or lying about the closures. The surge was absolutely a concern. Schools weren’t “closed for well over a year”. People constantly complain about comments on here “turning votes to R” - even on this thread.

Perhaps if the top PP had posted in good faith we could have had a different discussion here.

I’ll add a third category to Youngkin voters: Republican.

So either they are:
- Republican - some combination of pro-life, anti-taxes/gov’t services, anti-equality
- ignorant - believed misinformation (no, nobody was lining up kids by race in VA)
- understood the facts but were ANGRY and voted on emotionally rather than pragmatically

Hm. Are you secretly a Trump Republican?

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Anonymous wrote:Exit polls showed that college educated women voters were over 60 percent for Terry! That explains why one will never meet a Republican woman in sone rich person parts of Fairfax or Arlington. I haven't seen data breaking this down by race or marital status. I need that data. Kind of dumb, unforced errors by Terry. Maybe at the end he was just thinking he needed to turn out the base.

I know many rich, college-educated women in rich persons parts of Fairfax and Arlington, as well as richer person parts of DC and Chevy Chase. They’re not hard to find.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone please summarize? If not school then what

It was school but it wasn't vaccine mandates in school or CRT.

It was school closures and learning loss. They said McAuliffe had no plans to address the school failures and their kids academic challenges.

His whole “parents shouldn’t have a say in schools” after a year and a half of having to literally manage their kids education at home was incredibly dismissive and tone-deaf. And when called on it, he just doubled down. He needed open ears and a closed mouth, not the other way around.

Just wondering, were his kids private schools open all last year? (I voted for him but not with enthusiasm for the exact reason)

McAuliffe's kids are all adults and out of secondary school. Youngkin's were in private school and yes they were all open.

Not true. McAuliffe's youngest son, Peter, was a senior last year at Gonzaga College High School in DC. My DS was in his class. Gonzaga was virtual the 1st quarter last year. In October 2020, they went into a hybrid mode: divided the school into thirds and 1/3 of the entire school was able to attend school in person each day, or every third day, you could go in. The senior parents really pushed for the seniors to be able to attend school as an entire class, as opposed to the alphabetical manner they were doing. If I remember correctly, in January, the seniors were able to go in two times, every third day. By the last quarter, they were going in every single day.

Gonzaga had in person graduation in the church on June 6, 2021 - you could have 6 guests: 2 in the church, 2 in the theatre and 2 in the gymnasium. The boys had an indoor "prom." It was actually more like an indoor carnival - no dancing, but carnival games like "wack-a-mole." They had a Baccalaureate Mass. Terry and family sat right across from us in the church. When we walked into the school building for the reception, he loudly declared that he didn't have to wear a mask because "weren't we all vaccinated?" Gonzaga went on with their retreat programs and even had the boys spend the night in the school! This all happened in Washington, DC which had some of the strictest COVID protocols around.

Why am I telling you all this? Because I have another child who is in high school in Fairfax County. Virginia was much more relaxed with COVID protocols. For example, once indoor dining came back, it never was restricted again. But my DS didn't step into school until 365 days after he left school in March 2020. 365 days. I watched numerous school board meetings. I wrote to my school board members, to members of the Virginia legislature beggging them to allow the students to attend school. I signed a recall petition for one of our school board members. I donated money to the OpenFCPS group. But no, in person school wasn't safe! Even now, his high school had virtual Back to School Night, outdoor Homecoming, our PTA meetings have to be virtual. But yet, across the river, in super strict DC, the private school was doing everything it could to have as normal a school year as possible.

Yeah, so I definitely felt like Terry and the democrats are super dismissive of keeping the schools closed for in-person learning as long as they did, and still being super strict with virtual meetings, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.

I honestly don’t see how Republicans can stage a violent insurrection on the Capitol and then have the rest of the party whitewash it and support changes to state election laws in the name of election fraud than never occurred and face no election consequences.

Exactly.

Summer 2020 - local school districts decide to take cautious approach to deadly, global pandemic in light of parents/teachers concerns and a lot of uncertainty. After surge subsided & teachers are vaccinated (and willing to go back), kids are back in building. Following CDC safety guidelines. At the state level schools can open. Districts are free to decide based on local conditions.

January 2021 - Trump supporters storm the Capitol, goaded by Trump and his Big Lie. People are killed. Pipe bombs placed at DNC/RNC headquarters. We are fearful in our home as we hear about stashes of weapons nearby. After this, the GOP still continues to push The Big Lie with legislation to address “election integrity” by restricting voters and election officials.

But yeah the Ds are the bad guys here. Unbelievable.

Your version of "Summer" 2020 is a revisionist fantasy so it is impossible to take you seriously.

Which part was inaccurate? It was spot on.

The return of kids to school was not linked to any surge (look at the timing). Teachers were prioritized ahead of far more vulnerable population groups for vaccines but did not go back; in fact refused to go back. The timing was not "Summer 2020," it was approximately 18 months of time.

You also left off the enormous amount of documented learning loss that has impacted the most vulnerable children in the state the most, and the fact that there appears to be little documented evidence of outbreaks tied to school globally, and the fact that Democratic policies with respect to covid did not (and still do not) appear to be grounded in science.

Summer 2020 (July / August) - school districts decided to start off virtual
Fall 2020 - schools feared impending surge - stick with virtual
January 2021 - teachers can get vaccine, #s start declining dramatically
February / March 2021 - schools start bringing kids back into classroom

Learning loss is huge and needs to be addressed. But that doesn’t change the fact that schools had a reasonable approach then given knowledge and resources at that time.

Wow. You really believe your version of pandemic school closure history. It's just not true, but it is remarkable how strongly you believe it.

This. The PP’s account isn’t how it happened at all.

Yeah, it is a pretty audacious retelling of history. Is this the version of events that the Democratic power brokers are pushing? No wonder McAuliffe lost. What a break from reality.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone please summarize? If not school then what

It was school but it wasn't vaccine mandates in school or CRT.

It was school closures and learning loss. They said McAuliffe had no plans to address the school failures and their kids academic challenges.

His whole “parents shouldn’t have a say in schools” after a year and a half of having to literally manage their kids education at home was incredibly dismissive and tone-deaf. And when called on it, he just doubled down. He needed open ears and a closed mouth, not the other way around.

Just wondering, were his kids private schools open all last year? (I voted for him but not with enthusiasm for the exact reason)

McAuliffe's kids are all adults and out of secondary school. Youngkin's were in private school and yes they were all open.

Not true. McAuliffe's youngest son, Peter, was a senior last year at Gonzaga College High School in DC. My DS was in his class. Gonzaga was virtual the 1st quarter last year. In October 2020, they went into a hybrid mode: divided the school into thirds and 1/3 of the entire school was able to attend school in person each day, or every third day, you could go in. The senior parents really pushed for the seniors to be able to attend school as an entire class, as opposed to the alphabetical manner they were doing. If I remember correctly, in January, the seniors were able to go in two times, every third day. By the last quarter, they were going in every single day.

Gonzaga had in person graduation in the church on June 6, 2021 - you could have 6 guests: 2 in the church, 2 in the theatre and 2 in the gymnasium. The boys had an indoor "prom." It was actually more like an indoor carnival - no dancing, but carnival games like "wack-a-mole." They had a Baccalaureate Mass. Terry and family sat right across from us in the church. When we walked into the school building for the reception, he loudly declared that he didn't have to wear a mask because "weren't we all vaccinated?" Gonzaga went on with their retreat programs and even had the boys spend the night in the school! This all happened in Washington, DC which had some of the strictest COVID protocols around.

Why am I telling you all this? Because I have another child who is in high school in Fairfax County. Virginia was much more relaxed with COVID protocols. For example, once indoor dining came back, it never was restricted again. But my DS didn't step into school until 365 days after he left school in March 2020. 365 days. I watched numerous school board meetings. I wrote to my school board members, to members of the Virginia legislature beggging them to allow the students to attend school. I signed a recall petition for one of our school board members. I donated money to the OpenFCPS group. But no, in person school wasn't safe! Even now, his high school had virtual Back to School Night, outdoor Homecoming, our PTA meetings have to be virtual. But yet, across the river, in super strict DC, the private school was doing everything it could to have as normal a school year as possible.

Yeah, so I definitely felt like Terry and the democrats are super dismissive of keeping the schools closed for in-person learning as long as they did, and still being super strict with virtual meetings, etc.

Of course.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.

I honestly don’t see how Republicans can stage a violent insurrection on the Capitol and then have the rest of the party whitewash it and support changes to state election laws in the name of election fraud than never occurred and face no election consequences.

Exactly.

Summer 2020 - local school districts decide to take cautious approach to deadly, global pandemic in light of parents/teachers concerns and a lot of uncertainty. After surge subsided & teachers are vaccinated (and willing to go back), kids are back in building. Following CDC safety guidelines. At the state level schools can open. Districts are free to decide based on local conditions.

January 2021 - Trump supporters storm the Capitol, goaded by Trump and his Big Lie. People are killed. Pipe bombs placed at DNC/RNC headquarters. We are fearful in our home as we hear about stashes of weapons nearby. After this, the GOP still continues to push The Big Lie with legislation to address “election integrity” by restricting voters and election officials.

But yeah the Ds are the bad guys here. Unbelievable.

Your version of "Summer" 2020 is a revisionist fantasy so it is impossible to take you seriously.

Which part was inaccurate? It was spot on.

The return of kids to school was not linked to any surge (look at the timing). Teachers were prioritized ahead of far more vulnerable population groups for vaccines but did not go back; in fact refused to go back. The timing was not "Summer 2020," it was approximately 18 months of time.

You also left off the enormous amount of documented learning loss that has impacted the most vulnerable children in the state the most, and the fact that there appears to be little documented evidence of outbreaks tied to school globally, and the fact that Democratic policies with respect to covid did not (and still do not) appear to be grounded in science.

Summer 2020 (July / August) - school districts decided to start off virtual
Fall 2020 - schools feared impending surge - stick with virtual
January 2021 - teachers can get vaccine, #s start declining dramatically
February / March 2021 - schools start bringing kids back into classroom

Learning loss is huge and needs to be addressed. But that doesn’t change the fact that schools had a reasonable approach then given knowledge and resources at that time.

Wow. You really believe your version of pandemic school closure history. It's just not true, but it is remarkable how strongly you believe it.

This. The PP’s account isn’t how it happened at all.

It’s spot on. What part is incorrect?

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Anonymous wrote:Someone please summarize? If not school then what

It was school but it wasn't vaccine mandates in school or CRT.

It was school closures and learning loss. They said McAuliffe had no plans to address the school failures and their kids academic challenges.

His whole “parents shouldn’t have a say in schools” after a year and a half of having to literally manage their kids education at home was incredibly dismissive and tone-deaf. And when called on it, he just doubled down. He needed open ears and a closed mouth, not the other way around.

Just wondering, were his kids private schools open all last year? (I voted for him but not with enthusiasm for the exact reason)

McAuliffe's kids are all adults and out of secondary school. Youngkin's were in private school and yes they were all open.

Not true. McAuliffe's youngest son, Peter, was a senior last year at Gonzaga College High School in DC. My DS was in his class. Gonzaga was virtual the 1st quarter last year. In October 2020, they went into a hybrid mode: divided the school into thirds and 1/3 of the entire school was able to attend school in person each day, or every third day, you could go in. The senior parents really pushed for the seniors to be able to attend school as an entire class, as opposed to the alphabetical manner they were doing. If I remember correctly, in January, the seniors were able to go in two times, every third day. By the last quarter, they were going in every single day.

Gonzaga had in person graduation in the church on June 6, 2021 - you could have 6 guests: 2 in the church, 2 in the theatre and 2 in the gymnasium. The boys had an indoor "prom." It was actually more like an indoor carnival - no dancing, but carnival games like "wack-a-mole." They had a Baccalaureate Mass. Terry and family sat right across from us in the church. When we walked into the school building for the reception, he loudly declared that he didn't have to wear a mask because "weren't we all vaccinated?" Gonzaga went on with their retreat programs and even had the boys spend the night in the school! This all happened in Washington, DC which had some of the strictest COVID protocols around.

Why am I telling you all this? Because I have another child who is in high school in Fairfax County. Virginia was much more relaxed with COVID protocols. For example, once indoor dining came back, it never was restricted again. But my DS didn't step into school until 365 days after he left school in March 2020. 365 days. I watched numerous school board meetings. I wrote to my school board members, to members of the Virginia legislature beggging them to allow the students to attend school. I signed a recall petition for one of our school board members. I donated money to the OpenFCPS group. But no, in person school wasn't safe! Even now, his high school had virtual Back to School Night, outdoor Homecoming, our PTA meetings have to be virtual. But yet, across the river, in super strict DC, the private school was doing everything it could to have as normal a school year as possible.

Yeah, so I definitely felt like Terry and the democrats are super dismissive of keeping the schools closed for in-person learning as long as they did, and still being super strict with virtual meetings, etc.

Fair enough. Changes my opinion of TMac to that of a hypocrite. Thanks for sharing.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.

I honestly don’t see how Republicans can stage a violent insurrection on the Capitol and then have the rest of the party whitewash it and support changes to state election laws in the name of election fraud than never occurred and face no election consequences.

Exactly.

Summer 2020 - local school districts decide to take cautious approach to deadly, global pandemic in light of parents/teachers concerns and a lot of uncertainty. After surge subsided & teachers are vaccinated (and willing to go back), kids are back in building. Following CDC safety guidelines. At the state level schools can open. Districts are free to decide based on local conditions.

January 2021 - Trump supporters storm the Capitol, goaded by Trump and his Big Lie. People are killed. Pipe bombs placed at DNC/RNC headquarters. We are fearful in our home as we hear about stashes of weapons nearby. After this, the GOP still continues to push The Big Lie with legislation to address “election integrity” by restricting voters and election officials.

But yeah the Ds are the bad guys here. Unbelievable.

Your version of "Summer" 2020 is a revisionist fantasy so it is impossible to take you seriously.

Which part was inaccurate? It was spot on.

The return of kids to school was not linked to any surge (look at the timing). Teachers were prioritized ahead of far more vulnerable population groups for vaccines but did not go back; in fact refused to go back. The timing was not "Summer 2020," it was approximately 18 months of time.

You also left off the enormous amount of documented learning loss that has impacted the most vulnerable children in the state the most, and the fact that there appears to be little documented evidence of outbreaks tied to school globally, and the fact that Democratic policies with respect to covid did not (and still do not) appear to be grounded in science.

Summer 2020 (July / August) - school districts decided to start off virtual
Fall 2020 - schools feared impending surge - stick with virtual
January 2021 - teachers can get vaccine, #s start declining dramatically
February / March 2021 - schools start bringing kids back into classroom

Learning loss is huge and needs to be addressed. But that doesn’t change the fact that schools had a reasonable approach then given knowledge and resources at that time.

Wow. You really believe your version of pandemic school closure history. It's just not true, but it is remarkable how strongly you believe it.

This. The PP’s account isn’t how it happened at all.

It’s spot on. What part is incorrect?

NP- I would say it's mostly correct except the poster failed to mention the school board chose to start school virtually when there were virtually no cases at that point of the summer, despite the Fairfax health Dept woman's (Gloria?) recommendation. I recall people even suggesting they should open schools EARLIER to give an extended time off during a winter peak that everyone knew was coming, but it all fell on deaf ears and they actually started 2 weeks late, virtually. By then it was obvious they planned to continue virtually until they had no other excuse.

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Cases were going back up in July.


It’s hard to remember what that looked like after everything that happened later and the scale changed significantly.