USWNT: Are people finally ready to talk accept and talk about the future?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have all the players train and play in Europe. Better yet if they had dual US citizenship and grew up there.

That’s how the Men are starting to reverse course

This assumes of course that we can't right our own domestic league ship.

The women in Europe are subsidized by them men. The MLS has neither the means nor the desire to do so

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have all the players train and play in Europe. Better yet if they had dual US citizenship and grew up there.

That’s how the Men are starting to reverse course

This assumes of course that we can't right our own domestic league ship.

The biggest indicator of domestic league health is the salaries of the players. Can the league afford to pay a living wage. NWSL is one of the lowest paid leagues. I really wonder if we lost talent this cycle by keeping such an old team. $150k will keep an 18 or 20 year old playing. $22k (to a high of $52k) is hard living. Let’s face it the younger players are going to be getting closer to $22k vs $52k. I do not know how long I would play for $22k a year and no shot at moving to the national team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have all the players train and play in Europe. Better yet if they had dual US citizenship and grew up there.

That’s how the Men are starting to reverse course

This assumes of course that we can't right our own domestic league ship.

The women in Europe are subsidized by them men. The MLS has neither the means nor the desire to do so

Yes MLS would get sued if they had a women’s team and they did not spend the same resources on it. It’s one of the reasons US Soccer drop DA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have all the players train and play in Europe. Better yet if they had dual US citizenship and grew up there.

That’s how the Men are starting to reverse course

This assumes of course that we can't right our own domestic league ship.

The women in Europe are subsidized by them men. The MLS has neither the means nor the desire to do so

MLS is at best a third tier league when compared to Europe. There is no way they could keep their own house in order and then subsidize NWSL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have all the players train and play in Europe. Better yet if they had dual US citizenship and grew up there.

That’s how the Men are starting to reverse course

Problem of course is that training for girls in Europe is not comparable to what is available for boys. The highest transfer fee paid for a female soccer player is €250,000. As a result, there is currently no financial incentive for clubs to train and develop girls in Europe. In fact, in many cities in Germany, France, Spain and England, there are no girls teams at the youth levels. Good young players have to play on a boys team. If you talk to US citizens who have spent a few years in Europe for work or military, they will tell you that US is much better, with many more options, for youth girls soccer. As much as many like to poo-poo US soccer development for young girls, it is still better than the alternatives in other countries.

That is obviously not true on the boys side, where the financial incentives are in place for much better identification and development of boy soccer players in many countries, with the US far behind.

I got inside the La Masia girls side while in Barcelona. And it was as impressive as the boy's side. The real training center.

Barca's hierarchy made the decision to insert their U-12's and U-14's girls teams into their respective age groups male leagues.

The result? Complete and utter domination from the U-12 squad.

As reported in The New York Times, the girls ran havoc throughout the season, winning the league at a canter with a gap of fourteen points.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have all the players train and play in Europe. Better yet if they had dual US citizenship and grew up there.

That’s how the Men are starting to reverse course

Problem of course is that training for girls in Europe is not comparable to what is available for boys. The highest transfer fee paid for a female soccer player is €250,000. As a result, there is currently no financial incentive for clubs to train and develop girls in Europe. In fact, in many cities in Germany, France, Spain and England, there are no girls teams at the youth levels. Good young players have to play on a boys team. If you talk to US citizens who have spent a few years in Europe for work or military, they will tell you that US is much better, with many more options, for youth girls soccer. As much as many like to poo-poo US soccer development for young girls, it is still better than the alternatives in other countries.

That is obviously not true on the boys side, where the financial incentives are in place for much better identification and development of boy soccer players in many countries, with the US far behind.

I got inside the La Masia girls side while in Barcelona. And it was as impressive as the boy's side. The real training center.

Barca's hierarchy made the decision to insert their U-12's and U-14's girls teams into their respective age groups male leagues.

The result? Complete and utter domination from the U-12 squad.

As reported in The New York Times, the girls ran havoc throughout the season, winning the league at a canter with a gap of fourteen points.

Sorry, hear is the link about that above. Obviously U12 girls are way more ahead physically than boys of the same age (11).

https://www.sportbible.com/football/news-barcelona-under-12s-girls-team-entered-the-boys-league-and-dominated-20190606

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rapinoe, Morgan, Lloyd, Heath, Press should be thanked for their past achievements and retire from international soccer. They need to start rebuilding the team around younger players like Lavelle and Macario. And, yes, they will need to fix the youth development system, because other countries are catching up, but that's easier said than done with USSF running the show.

I agree with this. I've loved watching these players and routing for them but it's time to bring up the younger players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have all the players train and play in Europe. Better yet if they had dual US citizenship and grew up there.

That’s how the Men are starting to reverse course

Problem of course is that training for girls in Europe is not comparable to what is available for boys. The highest transfer fee paid for a female soccer player is €250,000. As a result, there is currently no financial incentive for clubs to train and develop girls in Europe. In fact, in many cities in Germany, France, Spain and England, there are no girls teams at the youth levels. Good young players have to play on a boys team. If you talk to US citizens who have spent a few years in Europe for work or military, they will tell you that US is much better, with many more options, for youth girls soccer. As much as many like to poo-poo US soccer development for young girls, it is still better than the alternatives in other countries.

That is obviously not true on the boys side, where the financial incentives are in place for much better identification and development of boy soccer players in many countries, with the US far behind.

I got inside the La Masia girls side while in Barcelona. And it was as impressive as the boy's side. The real training center.

Barca's hierarchy made the decision to insert their U-12's and U-14's girls teams into their respective age groups male leagues.

The result? Complete and utter domination from the U-12 squad.

As reported in The New York Times, the girls ran havoc throughout the season, winning the league at a canter with a gap of fourteen points.

Sorry, hear is the link about that above. Obviously U12 girls are way more ahead physically than boys of the same age (11).

https://www.sportbible.com/football/news-barcelona-under-12s-girls-team-entered-the-boys-league-and-dominated-20190606

I also was at St.George's (England's National Football training center) when the women's National team was staying there and training.

This was in 2017, Spain 2015. I have been telling everyone since then, US women are in for a wake up call. These countries are applying everything they do for the men to their women's side. It's just that their women started playing 30 years behind American girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have all the players train and play in Europe. Better yet if they had dual US citizenship and grew up there.

That’s how the Men are starting to reverse course

Problem of course is that training for girls in Europe is not comparable to what is available for boys. The highest transfer fee paid for a female soccer player is €250,000. As a result, there is currently no financial incentive for clubs to train and develop girls in Europe. In fact, in many cities in Germany, France, Spain and England, there are no girls teams at the youth levels. Good young players have to play on a boys team. If you talk to US citizens who have spent a few years in Europe for work or military, they will tell you that US is much better, with many more options, for youth girls soccer. As much as many like to poo-poo US soccer development for young girls, it is still better than the alternatives in other countries.

That is obviously not true on the boys side, where the financial incentives are in place for much better identification and development of boy soccer players in many countries, with the US far behind.

I got inside the La Masia girls side while in Barcelona. And it was as impressive as the boy's side. The real training center.

Barca's hierarchy made the decision to insert their U-12's and U-14's girls teams into their respective age groups male leagues.

The result? Complete and utter domination from the U-12 squad.

As reported in The New York Times, the girls ran havoc throughout the season, winning the league at a canter with a gap of fourteen points.

Sorry, hear is the link about that above. Obviously U12 girls are way more ahead physically than boys of the same age (11).

https://www.sportbible.com/football/news-barcelona-under-12s-girls-team-entered-the-boys-league-and-dominated-20190606

I also was at St.George's (England's National Football training center) when the women's National team was staying there and training.

This was in 2017, Spain 2015. I have been telling everyone since then, US women are in for a wake up call. These countries are applying everything they do for the men to their women's side. It's just that their women started playing 30 years behind American girls.

What does that have to do with a 30 year old women playing soccer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have all the players train and play in Europe. Better yet if they had dual US citizenship and grew up there.

That’s how the Men are starting to reverse course

Problem of course is that training for girls in Europe is not comparable to what is available for boys. The highest transfer fee paid for a female soccer player is €250,000. As a result, there is currently no financial incentive for clubs to train and develop girls in Europe. In fact, in many cities in Germany, France, Spain and England, there are no girls teams at the youth levels. Good young players have to play on a boys team. If you talk to US citizens who have spent a few years in Europe for work or military, they will tell you that US is much better, with many more options, for youth girls soccer. As much as many like to poo-poo US soccer development for young girls, it is still better than the alternatives in other countries.

That is obviously not true on the boys side, where the financial incentives are in place for much better identification and development of boy soccer players in many countries, with the US far behind.

I got inside the La Masia girls side while in Barcelona. And it was as impressive as the boy's side. The real training center.

Barca's hierarchy made the decision to insert their U-12's and U-14's girls teams into their respective age groups male leagues.

The result? Complete and utter domination from the U-12 squad.

As reported in The New York Times, the girls ran havoc throughout the season, winning the league at a canter with a gap of fourteen points.

Sorry, hear is the link about that above. Obviously U12 girls are way more ahead physically than boys of the same age (11).

https://www.sportbible.com/football/news-barcelona-under-12s-girls-team-entered-the-boys-league-and-dominated-20190606

I also was at St.George's (England's National Football training center) when the women's National team was staying there and training.

This was in 2017, Spain 2015. I have been telling everyone since then, US women are in for a wake up call. These countries are applying everything they do for the men to their women's side. It's just that their women started playing 30 years behind American girls.

What does that have to do with a 30 year old women playing soccer?

It is about the trajectory of woman's soccer in America. DUH. That's what I'm speaking to. It's not just the AGE, we are going to be eclipsed more and more because America (boys and girls sides) does not have the training methodology and system that is overseas. They are 30 years behind America with their women's side and everyone is catching up quickly. That's my point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have all the players train and play in Europe. Better yet if they had dual US citizenship and grew up there.

That’s how the Men are starting to reverse course

Problem of course is that training for girls in Europe is not comparable to what is available for boys. The highest transfer fee paid for a female soccer player is €250,000. As a result, there is currently no financial incentive for clubs to train and develop girls in Europe. In fact, in many cities in Germany, France, Spain and England, there are no girls teams at the youth levels. Good young players have to play on a boys team. If you talk to US citizens who have spent a few years in Europe for work or military, they will tell you that US is much better, with many more options, for youth girls soccer. As much as many like to poo-poo US soccer development for young girls, it is still better than the alternatives in other countries.

That is obviously not true on the boys side, where the financial incentives are in place for much better identification and development of boy soccer players in many countries, with the US far behind.

I got inside the La Masia girls side while in Barcelona. And it was as impressive as the boy's side. The real training center.

Barca's hierarchy made the decision to insert their U-12's and U-14's girls teams into their respective age groups male leagues.

The result? Complete and utter domination from the U-12 squad.

As reported in The New York Times, the girls ran havoc throughout the season, winning the league at a canter with a gap of fourteen points.

Sorry, hear is the link about that above. Obviously U12 girls are way more ahead physically than boys of the same age (11).

https://www.sportbible.com/football/news-barcelona-under-12s-girls-team-entered-the-boys-league-and-dominated-20190606

I also was at St.George's (England's National Football training center) when the women's National team was staying there and training.

This was in 2017, Spain 2015. I have been telling everyone since then, US women are in for a wake up call. These countries are applying everything they do for the men to their women's side. It's just that their women started playing 30 years behind American girls.

What does that have to do with a 30 year old women playing soccer?

It is about the trajectory of woman's soccer in America. DUH. That's what I'm speaking to. It's not just the AGE, we are going to be eclipsed more and more because America (boys and girls sides) does not have the training methodology and system that is overseas. They are 30 years behind America with their women's side and everyone is catching up quickly. That's my point.

Our youth soccer identification, national team selection process, coaching, etc. all pale in comparison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have all the players train and play in Europe. Better yet if they had dual US citizenship and grew up there.

That’s how the Men are starting to reverse course

Problem of course is that training for girls in Europe is not comparable to what is available for boys. The highest transfer fee paid for a female soccer player is €250,000. As a result, there is currently no financial incentive for clubs to train and develop girls in Europe. In fact, in many cities in Germany, France, Spain and England, there are no girls teams at the youth levels. Good young players have to play on a boys team. If you talk to US citizens who have spent a few years in Europe for work or military, they will tell you that US is much better, with many more options, for youth girls soccer. As much as many like to poo-poo US soccer development for young girls, it is still better than the alternatives in other countries.

That is obviously not true on the boys side, where the financial incentives are in place for much better identification and development of boy soccer players in many countries, with the US far behind.

We spent several years playing club, ODP, and town leagues in Germany. Much better experience and more affordable!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have all the players train and play in Europe. Better yet if they had dual US citizenship and grew up there.

That’s how the Men are starting to reverse course

This assumes of course that we can't right our own domestic league ship.

The women in Europe are subsidized by them men. The MLS has neither the means nor the desire to do so

MLS is at best a third tier league when compared to Europe. There is no way they could keep their own house in order and then subsidize NWSL.

The NBA subsidizes the WNBA and haven't been sued yet

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have all the players train and play in Europe. Better yet if they had dual US citizenship and grew up there.

That’s how the Men are starting to reverse course

Problem of course is that training for girls in Europe is not comparable to what is available for boys. The highest transfer fee paid for a female soccer player is €250,000. As a result, there is currently no financial incentive for clubs to train and develop girls in Europe. In fact, in many cities in Germany, France, Spain and England, there are no girls teams at the youth levels. Good young players have to play on a boys team. If you talk to US citizens who have spent a few years in Europe for work or military, they will tell you that US is much better, with many more options, for youth girls soccer. As much as many like to poo-poo US soccer development for young girls, it is still better than the alternatives in other countries.

That is obviously not true on the boys side, where the financial incentives are in place for much better identification and development of boy soccer players in many countries, with the US far behind.

I got inside the La Masia girls side while in Barcelona. And it was as impressive as the boy's side. The real training center.

Barca's hierarchy made the decision to insert their U-12's and U-14's girls teams into their respective age groups male leagues.

The result? Complete and utter domination from the U-12 squad.

As reported in The New York Times, the girls ran havoc throughout the season, winning the league at a canter with a gap of fourteen points.

Sorry, hear is the link about that above. Obviously U12 girls are way more ahead physically than boys of the same age (11).

https://www.sportbible.com/football/news-barcelona-under-12s-girls-team-entered-the-boys-league-and-dominated-20190606

I also was at St.George's (England's National Football training center) when the women's National team was staying there and training.

This was in 2017, Spain 2015. I have been telling everyone since then, US women are in for a wake up call. These countries are applying everything they do for the men to their women's side. It's just that their women started playing 30 years behind American girls.

What does that have to do with a 30 year old women playing soccer?

It is about the trajectory of woman's soccer in America. DUH. That's what I'm speaking to. It's not just the AGE, we are going to be eclipsed more and more because America (boys and girls sides) does not have the training methodology and system that is overseas. They are 30 years behind America with their women's side and everyone is catching up quickly. That's my point.

Their talent identification still relies on mens clubs running girl's academies. Not all clubs bother and where they don't there is a dearth of opportunity compared to what girls in every moderately sized us city have

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have all the players train and play in Europe. Better yet if they had dual US citizenship and grew up there.

That’s how the Men are starting to reverse course

This assumes of course that we can't right our own domestic league ship.

The women in Europe are subsidized by them men. The MLS has neither the means nor the desire to do so

MLS is at best a third tier league when compared to Europe. There is no way they could keep their own house in order and then subsidize NWSL.

The NBA subsidizes the WNBA and haven't been sued yet

Totally. I didn't understand that comment either. Of course, the NBA has boatloads of money and chooses to subsidize the WNBA because it's good for business AND I sincerely believe the individuals involved want the WNBA to exist.
MLS? The may want the USWNT to succeed but they don't have the money nor unified leadership to do much about it.