Teen/tween girls involved in carjackings

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nothing has “shifted.” It’s just a couple sensational stories.

Quick! Let’s pass more lenient criminal justice policies, so that teens know can act without consequence! Charles Allen are you reading this? This is right up your alley. Our city needs to be more tolerant of crime!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing has “shifted.” It’s just a couple sensational stories.

Quick! Let’s pass more lenient criminal justice policies, so that teens know can act without consequence! Charles Allen are you reading this? This is right up your alley. Our city needs to be more tolerant of crime!!!!

Obviously, our city will never do it, but ugh I wish we could elect more centrist politicians. We elect this Portland-esque social justice crusaders who forsake tax paying productive citizens for dangerous, out of control scofflaws. Like what would a normal city do if the crime rate went up 40% during a pandemic? I’m sure they wouldn’t continue to lower the penalties for crime commission out of a misguided altruistic notion of righting past wrongs. No they would probably hire more police and encourage policing. No, not dc. We get stuff like the youth rehabilitation act and loosening the time for criminals convicted of crimes to be out of prison earlier. Also, teens know they can do whatever they want without any type of consequence.

Obviously, politicians want to get re-elected and pander to the super poor half of the city who is primarily guilty of these crimes, and so instead of increasing arrests and making the other half feel safe, they just keep lowering the bar. At what point do we see a serious response? When the cities tax base is hollowed out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Nobody called it "the good old days." I have a hard time recalling pre-teen kids being arrested for armed car-jacking just a few years ago.

You probably have a hard time recalling anybody getting arrested for armed car-jacking in the past, because it didn't used to be a thing. The term wasn't even invented until 1991.

That was 30 years ago.
Can you link to an article or news flash that tells about PRETEENS being arrest for armed car-jacking 10 years ago?

If I find one, are you going to stop saying that parents in the past were better than parents now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Nobody called it "the good old days." I have a hard time recalling pre-teen kids being arrested for armed car-jacking just a few years ago.

You probably have a hard time recalling anybody getting arrested for armed car-jacking in the past, because it didn't used to be a thing. The term wasn't even invented until 1991.

That was 30 years ago.
Can you link to an article or news flash that tells about PRETEENS being arrest for armed car-jacking 10 years ago?

If I find one, are you going to stop saying that parents in the past were better than parents now?

I never said that either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing has “shifted.” It’s just a couple sensational stories.

Awfully dismissive of murder, PP.

No one died here and the other case was *felony* murder which is not the same as murder. The death was not intended as would be required for “normal” murder.

Nope. You do not need to intend to kill someone to be charged with murder.

You're thinking of first degree murder. There are several degrees, and for most of them, you do not need any intent to kill someone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing has “shifted.” It’s just a couple sensational stories.

Quick! Let’s pass more lenient criminal justice policies, so that teens know can act without consequence! Charles Allen are you reading this? This is right up your alley. Our city needs to be more tolerant of crime!!!!

Obviously, our city will never do it, but ugh I wish we could elect more centrist politicians. We elect this Portland-esque social justice crusaders who forsake tax paying productive citizens for dangerous, out of control scofflaws. Like what would a normal city do if the crime rate went up 40% during a pandemic? I’m sure they wouldn’t continue to lower the penalties for crime commission out of a misguided altruistic notion of righting past wrongs. No they would probably hire more police and encourage policing. No, not dc. We get stuff like the youth rehabilitation act and loosening the time for criminals convicted of crimes to be out of prison earlier. Also, teens know they can do whatever they want without any type of consequence.

Obviously, politicians want to get re-elected and pander to the super poor half of the city who is primarily guilty of these crimes, and so instead of increasing arrests and making the other half feel safe, they just keep lowering the bar. At what point do we see a serious response? When the cities tax base is hollowed out?

This, unfortunately. Our Portlandesque politicians think that if we responsible adults have a problem with the way they're running things, we should just smoke some weed and take some 'shrooms so we chill and get off their backs. The trouble is they're running things into the ground, very notably by making excuses for dangerous crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing has “shifted.” It’s just a couple sensational stories.

Awfully dismissive of murder, PP.

No one died here and the other case was *felony* murder which is not the same as murder. The death was not intended as would be required for “normal” murder.

are you really saying that it was "only" felony murder?!

In many places, felony murder IS classified as first degree murder. That's how serious it is. All that matters is that the person intended to commit a very dangerous crime.

[Anonymous]

In many countries judicial caning is the punishment for juvenile criminals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing has “shifted.” It’s just a couple sensational stories.

Awfully dismissive of murder, PP.

No one died here and the other case was *felony* murder which is not the same as murder. The death was not intended as would be required for “normal” murder.

Thank god they weren’t unmasked on a plane! They would have made front page new on WaPo. Now those kids were bad actors.

[Anonymous]

Just heard from evening news: two of the girls are released and will not be charged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just heard from evening news: two of the girls are released and will not be charged.

They’re oppressed! Experiencing consequences for their actions would only oppress them further.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just heard from evening news: two of the girls are released and will not be charged.

Bet this wasn't their first brush with the law. And, I am sure it won't be their last.

[Anonymous]

Three minors arrested in armed carjacking in Southeast Washington
By Dan Rosenzweig-Ziff

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/three-minors-arrested-in-armed-carjacking-in-southeast-washington/2021/07/12/c03b273a-e336-11eb-b722-89ea0dde7771_story.html

No WaPo updates yet...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing has “shifted.” It’s just a couple sensational stories.

Quick! Let’s pass more lenient criminal justice policies, so that teens know can act without consequence! Charles Allen are you reading this? This is right up your alley. Our city needs to be more tolerant of crime!!!!

Obviously, our city will never do it, but ugh I wish we could elect more centrist politicians. We elect this Portland-esque social justice crusaders who forsake tax paying productive citizens for dangerous, out of control scofflaws. Like what would a normal city do if the crime rate went up 40% during a pandemic? I’m sure they wouldn’t continue to lower the penalties for crime commission out of a misguided altruistic notion of righting past wrongs. No they would probably hire more police and encourage policing. No, not dc. We get stuff like the youth rehabilitation act and loosening the time for criminals convicted of crimes to be out of prison earlier. Also, teens know they can do whatever they want without any type of consequence.

Obviously, politicians want to get re-elected and pander to the super poor half of the city who is primarily guilty of these crimes, and so instead of increasing arrests and making the other half feel safe, they just keep lowering the bar. At what point do we see a serious response? When the cities tax base is hollowed out?

This. And this will end up biting progressives in the ass becuase the continued spike in violent crime will only drive people to overreact the other way. The most effective solutions lie in the middle, but being centrist doesn’t give you any political capital, so here we are. You can believe in criminal justice reform (bail reform, more diversion options and specialty courts for minor offenses, drug addicts, people with mental illness) and also recognize that violent criminals need to receive more than a slap on the wrist. I don’t care how undeveloped your brain is at age 16, by then you know murder and holding people up with weapons is wrong and you need to be held accountable. But Karl Racine and Charles Allen don’t believe that, so good luck DC as crimes committed by juveniles continue to run essentially unchecked.

[Anonymous]

Gangs using children who are unsupervised or wild.

My hometown used juvenile curfews to arrest the kids, get them off the streets, and trace back to the real criminals behind the gangs.