S/O: I like Joel Osteen. Change my mind.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s a hypocrite and you are gullible.

So descriptive. I’m sure OP now hates him.

I’ll be more specific then: he claims to be preaching the word of Christ, and yet has become massively wealthy. Wasn’t Jesus against that sort of materialism?

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Anonymous wrote:I find him so uplifting and joyful. Watching one of his sermons always puts me in a better frame of mind for the week.

And people like you is why he’s worth $50 million!

That’s the spirit of Christ, right?

The people who make him money are the people who purchase his books. He takes no salary from his church.

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Anonymous wrote:Is inoffensive really the best measure of someone's job performance.

It's great that he's a nice guy and has a positive approach. He's also a rank hypocrite traveling around in his private jet and not serving the needy during a hurricane in Houston. However, he's not the only hypocrite, so maybe inoffensive is the best measure?

OP here. This whole controversy surrounding the hurricane seemed SO manufactured. The church was flooded. How could they let people into a flooded building? This is what I am talking about- every controversy just seems like an excuse to hate on him.

Except it wasn't flooded, which is why they suddenly unlocked the doors after social media shaming.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find him so uplifting and joyful. Watching one of his sermons always puts me in a better frame of mind for the week.

And people like you is why he’s worth $50 million!

That’s the spirit of Christ, right?

Why shouldn't he have money and blessings? "You will know them by their fruits."

He has been blessed and anointed by God, every obstacle cleared and removed.

People have hated on this man nonstop for the past 20 years and it just falls off him like water off a duck's back. That's proof of God's protection and a blessing over him. If anything, it makes me realize that what he says works

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The biggest question I have is why his church got 4 million dollars in PPP. If someone can defend that, I'm all ears

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I believe that the prosperity gospel is a complete perversion of the actual Gospel.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find him so uplifting and joyful. Watching one of his sermons always puts me in a better frame of mind for the week.

And people like you is why he’s worth $50 million!

That’s the spirit of Christ, right?

Why shouldn't he have money and blessings? "You will know them by their fruits."

He has been blessed and anointed by God, every obstacle cleared and removed.

People have hated on this man nonstop for the past 20 years and it just falls off him like water off a duck's back. That's proof of God's protection and a blessing over him. If anything, it makes me realize that what he says works

Galatians 5:22-23 doesn't mention private jets, but maybe we have different versions. I wouldn't be surprised if these PG'ers put out a new Bible inserting "and get bitches and money!" into the fruits of the spirit, tbh.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that the prosperity gospel is a complete perversion of the actual Gospel.

Probably just because you've read any of the actual Gospel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I believe that the prosperity gospel is a complete perversion of the actual Gospel.

Yep.

Can any of you defend the prosperity gospel?

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He convinces elderly people on minimal fixed incomes that giving as much of their money as they can to him is the godly thing to do (“faithful support”). He lives in a massive mansion and his net worth is in the tens of millions. If you can’t see how this is problematic, no one can really help you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find him so uplifting and joyful. Watching one of his sermons always puts me in a better frame of mind for the week.

And people like you is why he’s worth $50 million!

That’s the spirit of Christ, right?

Why shouldn't he have money and blessings? "You will know them by their fruits."

He has been blessed and anointed by God, every obstacle cleared and removed.

People have hated on this man nonstop for the past 20 years and it just falls off him like water off a duck's back. That's proof of God's protection and a blessing over him. If anything, it makes me realize that what he says works

PP, making a lot of money isn’t “fruits.” What the Bible is talking about is good works, peace, joy, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is inoffensive really the best measure of someone's job performance.

It's great that he's a nice guy and has a positive approach. He's also a rank hypocrite traveling around in his private jet and not serving the needy during a hurricane in Houston. However, he's not the only hypocrite, so maybe inoffensive is the best measure?

OP here. This whole controversy surrounding the hurricane seemed SO manufactured. The church was flooded. How could they let people into a flooded building? This is what I am talking about- every controversy just seems like an excuse to hate on him.

Except it wasn't flooded, which is why they suddenly unlocked the doors after social media shaming.

Except it was. And anyone who has lived or spent time in Houston or gone to his church knows it. First of all, Houston floods CONSTANTLY. It's a major issue in Houston that, if you live in another city, you may not even realize how a city (or parts of a city) could flood as often as Houston does. Obviously it disproportionally affects certain areas rather than others, but with every single major storm there is an element of flooding. EVERY SINGLE storm.

This was a hurricane, and there was video footage of the completely flooded parking garage. That may not seem like a big deal, but anyone who has been to the church knows that that's the way to get into the building. The building is built on top of the parking garage (so far as I can make out, from my many visits), and you cannot park anywhere else to get in. It's located in the middle of downtown, on a major street/highway with no street parking whatsoever. You could imagine a church being built off the side of 495 to get an idea of the setup. Yes, there are city streets nearby, but the only way I have EVER been able to access the church is through that parking garage, and I go whenever I visit Houston, maybe a few times every year.

You really couldn't expect to provide widespread help to a community, and to the number of people who would flock to Lakewood, when there is no parking and it's located on a highway. And the only entrance people ever use is flooded several meters under water. Obviously it's a huge danger and risk, because a lot of people are going to try to enter that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find him so uplifting and joyful. Watching one of his sermons always puts me in a better frame of mind for the week.

And people like you is why he’s worth $50 million!

That’s the spirit of Christ, right?

Why shouldn't he have money and blessings? "You will know them by their fruits."

He has been blessed and anointed by God, every obstacle cleared and removed.

People have hated on this man nonstop for the past 20 years and it just falls off him like water off a duck's back. That's proof of God's protection and a blessing over him. If anything, it makes me realize that what he says works

PP, making a lot of money isn’t “fruits.” What the Bible is talking about is good works, peace, joy, etc.

Which he's done. And also been blessed himself. He's been blessed all along the way. Good for him!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find him so uplifting and joyful. Watching one of his sermons always puts me in a better frame of mind for the week.

And people like you is why he’s worth $50 million!

That’s the spirit of Christ, right?

Why shouldn't he have money and blessings? "You will know them by their fruits."

He has been blessed and anointed by God, every obstacle cleared and removed.

People have hated on this man nonstop for the past 20 years and it just falls off him like water off a duck's back. That's proof of God's protection and a blessing over him. If anything, it makes me realize that what he says works

Does the money come from the Lord also? Or does it come out of the pockets of people, many of whom are quite needy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is inoffensive really the best measure of someone's job performance.

It's great that he's a nice guy and has a positive approach. He's also a rank hypocrite traveling around in his private jet and not serving the needy during a hurricane in Houston. However, he's not the only hypocrite, so maybe inoffensive is the best measure?

OP here. This whole controversy surrounding the hurricane seemed SO manufactured. The church was flooded. How could they let people into a flooded building? This is what I am talking about- every controversy just seems like an excuse to hate on him.

It wasn't flooded.