Mayor Bowser and renaming or removing monuments

[Anonymous]

I don't understand why adding context to these people or moving their statues is such a problem.

I think it is important to understand how Jefferson treated his slaves, including his wife's mixed race half-sister. Why are some people so afraid of facts?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hope that this doesn't get leaked too bad. It'll radically hurt the Democrats and their election chances.

It’s definitely gotten out- a relative sent me a link to it from Fox News. I don’t think proposals like this do the Democrats any favors for November.

I’m really not worried about what someone’s RWNJ uncle from Tennessee thinks about DC. This is a local issue. It’s time to rename these monuments after people who DIDN’T own other human beings.

Obviously you’re not and you’re sure of yourself, but you should be. Guessing you don’t know enough people in battleground states to know how it energizes the other side. What’s the point of including the federal stuff they don’t control except to make Fox News headlines? Can’t they just wait til after the election?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hope that this doesn't get leaked too bad. It'll radically hurt the Democrats and their election chances.

It’s definitely gotten out- a relative sent me a link to it from Fox News. I don’t think proposals like this do the Democrats any favors for November.

I’m really not worried about what someone’s RWNJ uncle from Tennessee thinks about DC. This is a local issue. It’s time to rename these monuments after people who DIDN’T own other human beings.

Lol. No. This isn't a "local" issue. DC is the Nation's capital. The "uncle form Tennessee" has as much right to what is placed here as anyone. Idiots like you need to wake up. November cannot get here soon enough.

Exactly why DC is a district and not a state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does the Mayor realize that these are Federal? Does she even understand how DC is organized? Has she ever read the constitution?

I think the troll do realize it. Let see how long this goes.

[Anonymous]

Here is one link not from Fox that details the information.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.actionnewsjax.com/news/politics/jamie-dupree/dc-panel-targets-jefferson-memorial-washington-monument/ZDHGCAVKAREP7LT5NV3XK2RH4Q/%3foutputType=amp

[Anonymous]

Golly.

I was naive enough to believe, "But we only want to remove confederate statues."

[Anonymous]

"review of the historical figures on five key factors ... violation of D.C. human rights laws"

That would be a retroactive application. Interesting legal precedent.

"More than 2,300 D.C. residents filled out an online survey on renaming."

Representing a very very tiny fraction of the District's population and the country.

"A vast majority of the people we heard from"

Meaning, not a vast majority of the public. Just people who responded. You know, the massive 2300 people sampled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess that we will have to rename anything named after Mayor Barry and MLK. Might as well pull their statues down as well. Their behavior towards women was abhorrent.

Malcolm X as well. Pull them all down. Name things like we do the metro lines.

I will support Taupe High School.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why adding context to these people or moving their statues is such a problem.

I think it is important to understand how Jefferson treated his slaves, including his wife's mixed race half-sister. Why are some people so afraid of facts?

It’s okay they read your query they just don’t want to risk compromising the rationale for their stern objections by getting into facts.

[Anonymous]

Never thought we’d reach this point, but we started looking for houses in Virginia this week. DC is spiraling out of control and this type of leadership is too decisive at a time when we need to be united. The downtown commercial real estate market will crater next year and most restaurants will not survive the winter with no outdoor seating. The tax base will erode and most cities are going to be in rough shape for the next decade. Key Elementary, or whatever they decide to call it, will be empty anyway.

[Anonymous]

I filled out that survey and support making changes.

I don't know enough to discuss particular statues, but I should think that contextualizing a statute of someone with real contributions to society would be putting up a plaque to say, "this person is honored for X but also did Y, which had Z lasting harmful impact." Otherwise, only X is part of the discussion, and Y and Z are ignored.

Some statues in DC (many of the white men on horses) haven't made any obvious positive societal contributions, and I would like them moved elsewhere so that more women and people of color could be publicly celebrated.

Monuments are part of how communities reflect on their shared histories and experience, and I would like those stories to be more inclusive. I would also like to honor a more diverse group than just soldiers and statesmen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I filled out that survey and support making changes.

I don't know enough to discuss particular statues, but I should think that contextualizing a statute of someone with real contributions to society would be putting up a plaque to say, "this person is honored for X but also did Y, which had Z lasting harmful impact." Otherwise, only X is part of the discussion, and Y and Z are ignored.

Some statues in DC (many of the white men on horses) haven't made any obvious positive societal contributions, and I would like them moved elsewhere so that more women and people of color could be publicly celebrated.

Monuments are part of how communities reflect on their shared histories and experience, and I would like those stories to be more inclusive. I would also like to honor a more diverse group than just soldiers and statesmen.

So... here is my question.
Who gets to decide what to put and which monuments or buildings to put these "contexts" on?
Do we include MLK in this contextualizing? Or, Malcolm X?

Bottom iine.... humans are human. Nobody is free from sin. Which sins to we put in context and which do we ignore?

[Anonymous]

The whole report is such an unforced error. Provided no historical explanation for any of it. And how blind do the authors need to be to not see the page on federal monuments as completely tone deaf. Take care of your own business before trying to run the federal government. Focus on local schools and parks. How hard is that?

DC is just beginning to get respect as a potentially independent state and then they go and do something stupid like this. As a DC resident and taxpayer I am sooo frustrated. This is going to set back the statehood efforts by years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hope that this doesn't get leaked too bad. It'll radically hurt the Democrats and their election chances.

Sadly, you are right. This will only give us more fuel to trump supporters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hope that this doesn't get leaked too bad. It'll radically hurt the Democrats and their election chances.

Actually, it will have no effect on that. Biden is all but guaranteed to win the popular vote by seven to nine points and crush Trump in the key battleground states, running up an electoral college landslide.