Comparison between top colleges and university

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone is way too invested in their kids application process.

But if you look at the numbers and squint there is a secret code for getting into college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone is way too invested in their kids application process.

Says a parent who outsourced the task to tutors/coaches.

[Anonymous]

Just sort the table based on the 75 percentile SAT scores, it pretty much gives you the picture what school student body qualities are. Some are called "elite" for a reason. Not necessarily true for an individual student, but true for the whole student body. No need for the endless argument.

CalTech 1600
Harvard 1600
Princeton 1600
Chicago 1590
Yale 1590
Columbia 1570
MIT 1570
Stanford 1570
Vanderbilt 1570
Dartmouth 1560
Harvey Mudd 1560
Williams 1560
Duke 1550
Northwestern 1550
Rice 1550
WashU 1550
Brown 1540
Pomona 1540
UPenn 1540
Amherst 1530
CMU 1530
Swarthmore 1530
Carleton 1520
Cornell 1520
Notre Dame 1520
Tufts 1520

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just sort the table based on the 75 percentile SAT scores, it pretty much gives you the picture what school student body qualities are. Some are called "elite" for a reason. Not necessarily true for an individual student, but true for the whole student body. No need for the endless argument.

CalTech 1600
Harvard 1600
Princeton 1600
Chicago 1590
Yale 1590
Columbia 1570
MIT 1570
Stanford 1570
Vanderbilt 1570
Dartmouth 1560
Harvey Mudd 1560
Williams 1560
Duke 1550
Northwestern 1550
Rice 1550
WashU 1550
Brown 1540
Pomona 1540
UPenn 1540
Amherst 1530
CMU 1530
Swarthmore 1530
Carleton 1520
Cornell 1520
Notre Dame 1520
Tufts 1520

That Harvard number is surprising given all the media stories about how many legacies they admit.

So all Harvard legacies are amazingly smart?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you OP!!

Now, it is difficult to see the numbers...could you somehow rank them from less BS to more BS?

I think is you paste everything into a text file and import into Excel as space delimited it should be fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's a great app called CollegeHunch that will crunch and compare for you -- much easier!

I have yet to see percentages by majors in a comparison website and that was the point of this exercise.

[Anonymous]

I noticed the slip in the original OP: “If you want your child to be an academic...” We’re dealing with people who are nearly adults here. They should be directing the college process and certainly making the choices about what to be when they grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems a little over the top. Why do we care where you are targeting your kid to get in except to offer you help? Really, do you honestly think the only path to academia is from a SLAC? Just because that’s what the SLAC league tells you doesn’t mean that’s the whole truth. CS is not known as a topic to engender many to pursue advanced degrees, so pretty limited pool of academics in that topic anyway.

The spreadsheet just contains facts. I am presenting colleges to my kid without stating preferences in the spreadsheet. Obviously I stated that there are other ways to academia besides LACs. Frankly, I agree with you on the usefulness of a degree in CS.

PS:. I didn't know the NSF was the SLAC league.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I could see you put in lots of effort. However, there are many errors, especially the 0% that you put in were all wrong.

The 0%s are saying the LACs have no Engineering majors. This is not an error.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So you're saying that non-STEM, non-Computer Science topics are inherently Social Justice Warrior? Nice. Glad the empirical world is so comfortable for you, while the realm of real-world humanity isn't.

Anonymous wrote:

I thought that by maximizing these measures, one could minimize the SJW horseshit that is prevalent in some schools.

+1000

Also, I'm glad to see another "spreadsheet parent".

Obviously that is not what I explicitly said. Please work on reading comprehension. BTW, I have a PhD in a social science and not a STEM subject.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just sort the table based on the 75 percentile SAT scores, it pretty much gives you the picture what school student body qualities are. Some are called "elite" for a reason. Not necessarily true for an individual student, but true for the whole student body. No need for the endless argument.

CalTech 1600
Harvard 1600
Princeton 1600
Chicago 1590
Yale 1590
Columbia 1570
MIT 1570
Stanford 1570
Vanderbilt 1570
Dartmouth 1560
Harvey Mudd 1560
Williams 1560
Duke 1550
Northwestern 1550
Rice 1550
WashU 1550
Brown 1540
Pomona 1540
UPenn 1540
Amherst 1530
CMU 1530
Swarthmore 1530
Carleton 1520
Cornell 1520
Notre Dame 1520
Tufts 1520

That Harvard number is surprising given all the media stories about how many legacies they admit.

So all Harvard legacies are amazingly smart?

Don't know what percentage students are in through legacy. Maybe it's not large enough to bring down the overall SAT score.

[Anonymous]

It's not the "overall" SAT score; it's the 75th percentile.

[Anonymous]

OP most of these Stats are incorrect or VERY old. The acceptance rate for Cornell is 8% and for Emory is 15% as of last year. This data you posted is 5 years old.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP most of these Stats are incorrect or VERY old. The acceptance rate for Cornell is 8% and for Emory is 15% as of last year. This data you posted is 5 years old.

The OP said it's 2015 data. Acceptance rate may be different now due to larger number of applicants but everything else about the schools is pretty much same and the school fundamentals won't drastically change within a few years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP most of these Stats are incorrect or VERY old. The acceptance rate for Cornell is 8% and for Emory is 15% as of last year. This data you posted is 5 years old.

The OP said it's 2015 data. Acceptance rate may be different now due to larger number of applicants but everything else about the schools is pretty much same and the school fundamentals won't drastically change within a few years.

OP is trying to get their DC into the school, yet you use data that is 5 years old? The 75th percentile for Emory and UCLA is a 1550 (co/2023) for admits, and 1520 for enrolled students(co/2022) much different than the 1460 and 1440 that is posted.