I feel like I am going to explode but I can't say anything

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Anonymous wrote:How much does your job pay you? Can you live off that, eliminate daycare expense, and dh is a sahd for 3 years until your kid is in kindergarten.

Your dh seems like he has a very narrow employment niche. Even after grad school degree, youd think there would be more job opportunities. You both seem convinced he can "only" work in X places bc work is limited.
Unless you reveal what his job is, I just find it hard to believe theres nothing else - not even an offshoot of his Master's degree -that he can pursue right there in FL.
I took a biomedical lab rat job in desperation for a paycheck despite having an environmental sci degree...see how that works? Your dh cant do something like that?

This is a horrible idea. Her husband recently finished school with a science degree and he makes significantly more than his wife. OP said he'a a data scientist. I am assuming he has a PhD because 140- 165 k is not a typical salary for a data scientist with only a master's degree. It would foolish to find a job using his masters degree if he has a STEM PhD.

If he's Dr. STEM than job opportunities should be abundant - academia, research, consulting, government, etc. Theres no reason he has to move across 10 states to find another job - a contractor at that.

Big data science jobs are not in FL. They may want to consider Atlanta but who wants to live there? OP also mentioned her husbands family lives abroad. Maybe his communication skills and English are making it hard to land a permanent position. Most international people switch around to different contracts. It's very common. Op look at this link. There are also options out there but Florida does not seem like a good city for data science.

https://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-10-cities-with-the-highest-salaries-for-data-scientists/

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Anonymous wrote:How much does your job pay you? Can you live off that, eliminate daycare expense, and dh is a sahd for 3 years until your kid is in kindergarten.

Your dh seems like he has a very narrow employment niche. Even after grad school degree, youd think there would be more job opportunities. You both seem convinced he can "only" work in X places bc work is limited.
Unless you reveal what his job is, I just find it hard to believe theres nothing else - not even an offshoot of his Master's degree -that he can pursue right there in FL.
I took a biomedical lab rat job in desperation for a paycheck despite having an environmental sci degree...see how that works? Your dh cant do something like that?

This is laughable unless her husband has a very low paying job. Why would anyone take a break 1 year after grad school in a STEM job? Op was worried about working in California because childcare would take her into the negatives. I don't think this would work out well. There's a reason most people move to major cities. It's because that's where the jobs are. It's really simple.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you are saying his current salary at a 3 yr contract job is 90K, but he could get a (non-contract) job somewhere else for $140-165k? That seems like a no-brainer to me. 50k is a lot of money in any city and would cover daycare anywhere.

No. Right now the only job leads he has are contract jobs. We would be moving from one contract job to the next. Right now my husband is a medical device data scientist but he wants to switch over to pharmaceutical data position. He says most pharmaceutical companies hire as contractors and convert over to FT. Most of his teammates have left his current employer after 6 months because they got offered a FT permanent job somewhere else. He says there are not any openings for a permanent position at his employer now. My husband hasn't had luck finding a permanent position elsewhere. He has been looking for a while now. He also recently got vacation benefits. It's PTO for the holidays and 1 week vacation. His family lives abroad and we were planning on visiting them soon. If he accepts another job without benefits if will be 1 year or more before he can visit his family or take vacation. He hasn't seen his family in years. I told my husband to stop talking about the jobs. Maybe it was mean but I can only handle so much. He will have an interview and then we think we may be moving soon but nothing comes out of it. Contracting jobs tend to happen very fast. Usually it means you need to move in 2 weeks.

Not the question OP was asking but this caught my eye, because of being embroiled in a contractor vs employee dispute for awhile now. Benefits like PTO and vacation sound like employee benefits, and is an example of the specifics state and federal government looks at when determining if a person is in fact an independent contractor. Or is he an employee of a third party that contracted with the company he is working for now?

From one site discussing such relationships (there are many, from employment law sites to government sites) "Benefits - an employer who provides benefits such as vacation and sick leave, health insurance, bonuses, or severance pay will almost inevitably be considered the employer of the workers. The power to award benefits carries with it the power to deny them, and that kind of power is exercised by employers."

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you are saying his current salary at a 3 yr contract job is 90K, but he could get a (non-contract) job somewhere else for $140-165k? That seems like a no-brainer to me. 50k is a lot of money in any city and would cover daycare anywhere.

No. Right now the only job leads he has are contract jobs. We would be moving from one contract job to the next. Right now my husband is a medical device data scientist but he wants to switch over to pharmaceutical data position. He says most pharmaceutical companies hire as contractors and convert over to FT. Most of his teammates have left his current employer after 6 months because they got offered a FT permanent job somewhere else. He says there are not any openings for a permanent position at his employer now. My husband hasn't had luck finding a permanent position elsewhere. He has been looking for a while now. He also recently got vacation benefits. It's PTO for the holidays and 1 week vacation. His family lives abroad and we were planning on visiting them soon. If he accepts another job without benefits if will be 1 year or more before he can visit his family or take vacation. He hasn't seen his family in years. I told my husband to stop talking about the jobs. Maybe it was mean but I can only handle so much. He will have an interview and then we think we may be moving soon but nothing comes out of it. Contracting jobs tend to happen very fast. Usually it means you need to move in 2 weeks.

Not the question OP was asking but this caught my eye, because of being embroiled in a contractor vs employee dispute for awhile now. Benefits like PTO and vacation sound like employee benefits, and is an example of the specifics state and federal government looks at when determining if a person is in fact an independent contractor. Or is he an employee of a third party that contracted with the company he is working for now?

From one site discussing such relationships (there are many, from employment law sites to government sites) "Benefits - an employer who provides benefits such as vacation and sick leave, health insurance, bonuses, or severance pay will almost inevitably be considered the employer of the workers. The power to award benefits carries with it the power to deny them, and that kind of power is exercised by employers."

Op. He works as a consultant for a third party. He's not an independent contractor.

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Anonymous wrote:How much does your job pay you? Can you live off that, eliminate daycare expense, and dh is a sahd for 3 years until your kid is in kindergarten.

Your dh seems like he has a very narrow employment niche. Even after grad school degree, youd think there would be more job opportunities. You both seem convinced he can "only" work in X places bc work is limited.
Unless you reveal what his job is, I just find it hard to believe theres nothing else - not even an offshoot of his Master's degree -that he can pursue right there in FL.
I took a biomedical lab rat job in desperation for a paycheck despite having an environmental sci degree...see how that works? Your dh cant do something like that?

This is a horrible idea. Her husband recently finished school with a science degree and he makes significantly more than his wife. OP said he'a a data scientist. I am assuming he has a PhD because 140- 165 k is not a typical salary for a data scientist with only a master's degree. It would foolish to find a job using his masters degree if he has a STEM PhD.

If he's Dr. STEM than job opportunities should be abundant - academia, research, consulting, government, etc. Theres no reason he has to move across 10 states to find another job - a contractor at that.

Op here. He's does have his doctorate. My husband is 36. He has 2 master's degreees ( 1 from his home country) and a PhD. He has been in school forever. I don't think there are a ton of government jobs here in north Florida. I am pretty sure they are in DC. I definitely do not want to live in Florida long term. We have had 3 mass shootings here in the last year.

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How much is your salary OP?

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Anonymous wrote:How much is your salary OP?

She said her husband has a higher salary and his is only 90k. I am assuming that it's a lot lower than his.

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You have to go where the jobs are. It's really plain and simple.

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Anonymous wrote:How much is your salary OP?

She said her husband has a higher salary and his is only 90k. I am assuming that it's a lot lower than his.

And I’m asking her the amount to see if the stability of a job with a lower COL might offset the $50K difference he is looking for elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much is your salary OP?

She said her husband has a higher salary and his is only 90k. I am assuming that it's a lot lower than his.

And I’m asking her the amount to see if the stability of a job with a lower COL might offset the $50K difference he is looking for elsewhere.

Consultanting jobs do not have stability. Her husband could be fired tomorrow. I bet they pay him weekly or daily.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much is your salary OP?

She said her husband has a higher salary and his is only 90k. I am assuming that it's a lot lower than his.

And I’m asking her the amount to see if the stability of a job with a lower COL might offset the $50K difference he is looking for elsewhere.

I don't get the impression her husband is looking for a higher salary. It sounds like he wants a permanent position with benefits. This is a reasonable thing to want. I would be looking for another job too if the company did not hire me as a permanent employee after 1 year.

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Anonymous wrote:You have to go where the jobs are. It's really plain and simple.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much is your salary OP?

She said her husband has a higher salary and his is only 90k. I am assuming that it's a lot lower than his.

And I’m asking her the amount to see if the stability of a job with a lower COL might offset the $50K difference he is looking for elsewhere.

Consultanting jobs do not have stability. Her husband could be fired tomorrow. I bet they pay him weekly or daily.

"Consulting" is the word you're trying for here.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband accepted a contact job 1 year ago and we moved to FL. The contract is 3 years. I thought everything was going well and we decided he would stay on for another year. We recently renewed out lease. We're at the 14 month mark right now. I recently started working and my son goes to daycare. A few days ago my husband tells me he's angry because he asked for a raise and got rejected. He now is applying for jobs out of state because there are not a lot of employers in his field where we live. His salary is a lot of higher so it makes sense that I have to follow him but I am just so sad and frustrated....

I have only been at my job for 1 month now. It's a work from home but I am not sure if I can work from another state. My employer is in FL. The COL is also a lot less and this makes childcare more affordable. If we moved to Boston or the Bay area there's no way I could afford childcare. The nanny would most likely make more than me there and I would be forced to be a SAHM. I haven't said anything to my husband. I am just venting. Please help.

The way he communicated everything was a mass. He was acting weird and I had to pull information out of him. BTW who asks for a raise from a contracting job? He's only 1 year into the job market. He finished grad school only 1 year ago and is making 90k. We live in FL so this salary is fine. It seems silly to leave a job because you did not get a raise. He also feels like the job in dead end. Apparently lots of the contractors quit after 6 months for a permanent job somewhere else. Right now the only job leads my husband has are contract jobs out of state. He is not on a visa or anything but he did recently become a US citizen. Usually contract jobs do NOT pay for relocation. We would have to spend 3k to break our lease. Everything is all happening together and it's so exhausting thinking about maybe moving and my new job etc etc. We also have a 2 year old and he's so much work. He constantly screams.

His salary may be higher, but with all the bolded above factored in, the question is whether therea higher combined HHI after all is said and done over the next 36 months. For another contracting job in a higher COL area. Will more experience at the place he is now allow for a higher jump after your lease ends, potentially for both of you? How does your long term contribution factor in if you don’t want to be a SAHM?

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And his contract is 3 years of pretty stable income with a coming recession?