Italy ending Child Support and redefining divorce laws

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe in equal share custody. No such thing.


How so? Court-appointed split of calendar year or intervals of time shared. Seems pretty simple to implement. Also gives both parents a chance to see their children.


I'm divorced and ex-DH and I get along and coparent well. The kid definitely would not like a 50/50 split of time. DH's job is much more inflexible than mine and he works a lot and travels on a regular basis for work. There are also circumstances where both parents can't afford housing in the same neighborhood due to income disparity, which could mean each home is zoned for different schools. I have a bigger home and do the bulk of the after school activities because my house is the base and we don't live right next door to each other. He pays child support. Having that one size fits all policy isn't a good idea. I'm all for that as the starting point, but you have to take into consideration the individual circumstances. My good friend's husband is a consultant who is gone during the week and is home on the weekend. How would the no child support/equal custody rule work there? I would be fine with the equal custody/no child support if we lived in the same neighborhood so we had the same school zone, and if ex-DH had a job where he was home on a regular basis. That just isn't the case.


As long as one parent/guardian is present in a residence in the school district and the child is there 50% of the time, it doesn’t matter if one or both has homes in-boundary. It just means the child’s commute will be longer with one parent over the other.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe in equal share custody. No such thing.


How so? Court-appointed split of calendar year or intervals of time shared. Seems pretty simple to implement. Also gives both parents a chance to see their children.


I'm divorced and ex-DH and I get along and coparent well. The kid definitely would not like a 50/50 split of time. DH's job is much more inflexible than mine and he works a lot and travels on a regular basis for work. There are also circumstances where both parents can't afford housing in the same neighborhood due to income disparity, which could mean each home is zoned for different schools. I have a bigger home and do the bulk of the after school activities because my house is the base and we don't live right next door to each other. He pays child support. Having that one size fits all policy isn't a good idea. I'm all for that as the starting point, but you have to take into consideration the individual circumstances. My good friend's husband is a consultant who is gone during the week and is home on the weekend. How would the no child support/equal custody rule work there? I would be fine with the equal custody/no child support if we lived in the same neighborhood so we had the same school zone, and if ex-DH had a job where he was home on a regular basis. That just isn't the case.


As long as one parent/guardian is present in a residence in the school district and the child is there 50% of the time, it doesn’t matter if one or both has homes in-boundary. It just means the child’s commute will be longer with one parent over the other.

So what happens Giancarlo decides to move away from Torino with his mistress to a new flat in Genoa?
THis law is about old dudes.
Anonymous
This law will destitute SAHMs and make it financially hard for them to divorce.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe in equal share custody. No such thing.


How so? Court-appointed split of calendar year or intervals of time shared. Seems pretty simple to implement. Also gives both parents a chance to see their children.


I'm divorced and ex-DH and I get along and coparent well. The kid definitely would not like a 50/50 split of time. DH's job is much more inflexible than mine and he works a lot and travels on a regular basis for work. There are also circumstances where both parents can't afford housing in the same neighborhood due to income disparity, which could mean each home is zoned for different schools. I have a bigger home and do the bulk of the after school activities because my house is the base and we don't live right next door to each other. He pays child support. Having that one size fits all policy isn't a good idea. I'm all for that as the starting point, but you have to take into consideration the individual circumstances. My good friend's husband is a consultant who is gone during the week and is home on the weekend. How would the no child support/equal custody rule work there? I would be fine with the equal custody/no child support if we lived in the same neighborhood so we had the same school zone, and if ex-DH had a job where he was home on a regular basis. That just isn't the case.


As long as one parent/guardian is present in a residence in the school district and the child is there 50% of the time, it doesn’t matter if one or both has homes in-boundary. It just means the child’s commute will be longer with one parent over the other.

So what happens Giancarlo decides to move away from Torino with his mistress to a new flat in Genoa?
THis law is about old dudes.


If they’re sharing equal custody then the law should state that both parents must provide residential papers for housing within a certain square mile distance of a agreed upon school district.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This law will destitute SAHMs and make it financially hard for them to divorce.


Laws like this erase the work women do to creat family wealth.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe in equal share custody. No such thing.


How so? Court-appointed split of calendar year or intervals of time shared. Seems pretty simple to implement. Also gives both parents a chance to see their children.


I'm divorced and ex-DH and I get along and coparent well. The kid definitely would not like a 50/50 split of time. DH's job is much more inflexible than mine and he works a lot and travels on a regular basis for work. There are also circumstances where both parents can't afford housing in the same neighborhood due to income disparity, which could mean each home is zoned for different schools. I have a bigger home and do the bulk of the after school activities because my house is the base and we don't live right next door to each other. He pays child support. Having that one size fits all policy isn't a good idea. I'm all for that as the starting point, but you have to take into consideration the individual circumstances. My good friend's husband is a consultant who is gone during the week and is home on the weekend. How would the no child support/equal custody rule work there? I would be fine with the equal custody/no child support if we lived in the same neighborhood so we had the same school zone, and if ex-DH had a job where he was home on a regular basis. That just isn't the case.


As long as one parent/guardian is present in a residence in the school district and the child is there 50% of the time, it doesn’t matter if one or both has homes in-boundary. It just means the child’s commute will be longer with one parent over the other.

So what happens Giancarlo decides to move away from Torino with his mistress to a new flat in Genoa?
THis law is about old dudes.


Don’t be so obtuse. There is a way to split the school year - all summer, breaks, etc. where if it isn’t exactly EQUAL time, it’s equitable based on the circumstance (I.e. the parent who decided to move away might get less time). But at least the presumption of equality is there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This law will destitute SAHMs and make it financially hard for them to divorce.


On the contrary I think it might give women a kick in the rear. More than half of Italy’s women don’t work outside the home. HALF. And that’s not uncommon throughout the EU.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This law will destitute SAHMs and make it financially hard for them to divorce.


On the contrary I think it might give women a kick in the rear. More than half of Italy’s women don’t work outside the home. HALF. And that’s not uncommon throughout the EU.


Laws like this erase the work women do to create family wealth.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This law will destitute SAHMs and make it financially hard for them to divorce.


On the contrary I think it might give women a kick in the rear. More than half of Italy’s women don’t work outside the home. HALF. And that’s not uncommon throughout the EU.


Laws like this erase the work women do to create family wealth.


Yeah, you said that above.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe in equal share custody. No such thing.


How so? Court-appointed split of calendar year or intervals of time shared. Seems pretty simple to implement. Also gives both parents a chance to see their children.


I'm divorced and ex-DH and I get along and coparent well. The kid definitely would not like a 50/50 split of time. DH's job is much more inflexible than mine and he works a lot and travels on a regular basis for work. There are also circumstances where both parents can't afford housing in the same neighborhood due to income disparity, which could mean each home is zoned for different schools. I have a bigger home and do the bulk of the after school activities because my house is the base and we don't live right next door to each other. He pays child support. Having that one size fits all policy isn't a good idea. I'm all for that as the starting point, but you have to take into consideration the individual circumstances. My good friend's husband is a consultant who is gone during the week and is home on the weekend. How would the no child support/equal custody rule work there? I would be fine with the equal custody/no child support if we lived in the same neighborhood so we had the same school zone, and if ex-DH had a job where he was home on a regular basis. That just isn't the case.


As long as one parent/guardian is present in a residence in the school district and the child is there 50% of the time, it doesn’t matter if one or both has homes in-boundary. It just means the child’s commute will be longer with one parent over the other.

So what happens Giancarlo decides to move away from Torino with his mistress to a new flat in Genoa?
THis law is about old dudes.


Don’t be so obtuse. There is a way to split the school year - all summer, breaks, etc. where if it isn’t exactly EQUAL time, it’s equitable based on the circumstance (I.e. the parent who decided to move away might get less time). But at least the presumption of equality is there.


Yep - there’s a way to be certain Giancarlo isn’t too inconvenienced. Ex can handle the school year heavy lifting and Little Sophia can come visit the Riviera in the summer...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe in equal share custody. No such thing.


How so? Court-appointed split of calendar year or intervals of time shared. Seems pretty simple to implement. Also gives both parents a chance to see their children.


I'm divorced and ex-DH and I get along and coparent well. The kid definitely would not like a 50/50 split of time. DH's job is much more inflexible than mine and he works a lot and travels on a regular basis for work. There are also circumstances where both parents can't afford housing in the same neighborhood due to income disparity, which could mean each home is zoned for different schools. I have a bigger home and do the bulk of the after school activities because my house is the base and we don't live right next door to each other. He pays child support. Having that one size fits all policy isn't a good idea. I'm all for that as the starting point, but you have to take into consideration the individual circumstances. My good friend's husband is a consultant who is gone during the week and is home on the weekend. How would the no child support/equal custody rule work there? I would be fine with the equal custody/no child support if we lived in the same neighborhood so we had the same school zone, and if ex-DH had a job where he was home on a regular basis. That just isn't the case.


I agree it should be the starting point. In your case if your ex has no interest in seeing the kids more than he does, then you have the right arrangement. If both parents agree that the arrangement works best for their lives and the kids then I doubt Italy is going to force 50/50
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe in equal share custody. No such thing.


How so? Court-appointed split of calendar year or intervals of time shared. Seems pretty simple to implement. Also gives both parents a chance to see their children.


I'm divorced and ex-DH and I get along and coparent well. The kid definitely would not like a 50/50 split of time. DH's job is much more inflexible than mine and he works a lot and travels on a regular basis for work. There are also circumstances where both parents can't afford housing in the same neighborhood due to income disparity, which could mean each home is zoned for different schools. I have a bigger home and do the bulk of the after school activities because my house is the base and we don't live right next door to each other. He pays child support. Having that one size fits all policy isn't a good idea. I'm all for that as the starting point, but you have to take into consideration the individual circumstances. My good friend's husband is a consultant who is gone during the week and is home on the weekend. How would the no child support/equal custody rule work there? I would be fine with the equal custody/no child support if we lived in the same neighborhood so we had the same school zone, and if ex-DH had a job where he was home on a regular basis. That just isn't the case.


As long as one parent/guardian is present in a residence in the school district and the child is there 50% of the time, it doesn’t matter if one or both has homes in-boundary. It just means the child’s commute will be longer with one parent over the other.

So what happens Giancarlo decides to move away from Torino with his mistress to a new flat in Genoa?
THis law is about old dudes.


Don’t be so obtuse. There is a way to split the school year - all summer, breaks, etc. where if it isn’t exactly EQUAL time, it’s equitable based on the circumstance (I.e. the parent who decided to move away might get less time). But at least the presumption of equality is there.


Yep - there’s a way to be certain Giancarlo isn’t too inconvenienced. Ex can handle the school year heavy lifting and Little Sophia can come visit the Riviera in the summer...


Okay. I don’t know what you want to hear. I guess you are intent on assuming the man is the bad spouse/parent in all situations. Typical DCUM!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe in equal share custody. No such thing.


How so? Court-appointed split of calendar year or intervals of time shared. Seems pretty simple to implement. Also gives both parents a chance to see their children.


I'm divorced and ex-DH and I get along and coparent well. The kid definitely would not like a 50/50 split of time. DH's job is much more inflexible than mine and he works a lot and travels on a regular basis for work. There are also circumstances where both parents can't afford housing in the same neighborhood due to income disparity, which could mean each home is zoned for different schools. I have a bigger home and do the bulk of the after school activities because my house is the base and we don't live right next door to each other. He pays child support. Having that one size fits all policy isn't a good idea. I'm all for that as the starting point, but you have to take into consideration the individual circumstances. My good friend's husband is a consultant who is gone during the week and is home on the weekend. How would the no child support/equal custody rule work there? I would be fine with the equal custody/no child support if we lived in the same neighborhood so we had the same school zone, and if ex-DH had a job where he was home on a regular basis. That just isn't the case.


I agree it should be the starting point. In your case if your ex has no interest in seeing the kids more than he does, then you have the right arrangement. If both parents agree that the arrangement works best for their lives and the kids then I doubt Italy is going to force 50/50


Right. I think it should be a choice.

A) If each parent is eager for custody - split it and organize it 50/50 with no to minimal child support. Each one takes care of their own household.

B) If one parent only wants holidays and a month every summer - then split it 70/30 with according child support raised for extra expenditures.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This law will destitute SAHMs and make it financially hard for them to divorce.


On the contrary I think it might give women a kick in the rear. More than half of Italy’s women don’t work outside the home. HALF. And that’s not uncommon throughout the EU.


Namely because of the way their society is arranged to discourage working moms. Hence the low birth rate. Same in Japan.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe in equal share custody. No such thing.


How so? Court-appointed split of calendar year or intervals of time shared. Seems pretty simple to implement. Also gives both parents a chance to see their children.


I'm divorced and ex-DH and I get along and coparent well. The kid definitely would not like a 50/50 split of time. DH's job is much more inflexible than mine and he works a lot and travels on a regular basis for work. There are also circumstances where both parents can't afford housing in the same neighborhood due to income disparity, which could mean each home is zoned for different schools. I have a bigger home and do the bulk of the after school activities because my house is the base and we don't live right next door to each other. He pays child support. Having that one size fits all policy isn't a good idea. I'm all for that as the starting point, but you have to take into consideration the individual circumstances. My good friend's husband is a consultant who is gone during the week and is home on the weekend. How would the no child support/equal custody rule work there? I would be fine with the equal custody/no child support if we lived in the same neighborhood so we had the same school zone, and if ex-DH had a job where he was home on a regular basis. That just isn't the case.


As long as one parent/guardian is present in a residence in the school district and the child is there 50% of the time, it doesn’t matter if one or both has homes in-boundary. It just means the child’s commute will be longer with one parent over the other.

So what happens Giancarlo decides to move away from Torino with his mistress to a new flat in Genoa?
THis law is about old dudes.


Don’t be so obtuse. There is a way to split the school year - all summer, breaks, etc. where if it isn’t exactly EQUAL time, it’s equitable based on the circumstance (I.e. the parent who decided to move away might get less time). But at least the presumption of equality is there.


Yep - there’s a way to be certain Giancarlo isn’t too inconvenienced. Ex can handle the school year heavy lifting and Little Sophia can come visit the Riviera in the summer...


Okay. I don’t know what you want to hear. I guess you are intent on assuming the man is the bad spouse/parent in all situations. Typical DCUM!


Just acknowledge I’m right. That’s all.
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