School lockdown... every man for themselves plan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In the workplace we're advised to run--hide--fight. I imagine things are different at a school where there children, OP. Do you have kids? How would you feel if an adult deserted your preschooler in an active shooter situation?

If DH is not up to the task, he should leave. There are plenty of other careers he can pursue. (Sadly, there is no guarantee he won't be gunned down by a disgruntled co-worker anywhere else.)

Depends on the grade and the school. For younger students they just shelter in place, but for high schools they can have more elaborate plans which include evacuating sections of the school and ALICE which is pretty much run, hide then fight.

[Anonymous]

OP, it's a good thing you're not a LEO wife. You couldn't handle it. My husband retired after 26 years in law enforcement and is now a bus driver for fun. His job in an active shooter situation is to get the kids behind him and engage the shooter without a weapon. He wouldn't run, because he's been in many active shooter situations, and in many hostage negotiations. He would do his job, even if it meant losing his life. But that shooter would die, too, or be incapacitated. The kids would be off the bus and officers would be responding. You don't marry a cop and expect him to come home safely. You expect a call. The fact that he didn't die during his career is a blessing, but I would be ashamed of him if he didn't do his job now if he was in that situation,and he would be ashamed of himself for being a coward.

[Anonymous]

With facing that kind of situation, you either fight or flight! You are a hero for fighting for yourself and others, or you give up! There is one movie I saw recently and the guy said "but we didn't do anything!" and the man answered, "you survived, that's enough"...

[Anonymous]

I'm a high school teacher, and that's my plan. I'm a single parent. I'm going to do whatever I can to ensure that I make it home, and I've told my child to expect her teacher to do the same. I'm sorry, but you can't have it both ways. We're villainized constantly regardless of how much we try. I'm sick of every time there's a school shooting that results in a teacher's death, they're lauded as heroes. They're victims. I shouldn't have to choose between making my child an orphan and saving someone else's kid. We don't have metal detectors, armed security, locking doors, or even doors that open into the room that we can barricade. You won't pay me a decent wage for what I do? Fine. At least spend the money to try and give me some sense of security. Instead, we get bullshit about statistics and how it's highly unlikely we'll have a shooting. We're told that metal detectors aren't in the budget. I've told my students that our plan is to toss a chair through the window and make a run for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With facing that kind of situation, you either fight or flight! You are a hero for fighting for yourself and others, or you give up! There is one movie I saw recently and the guy said "but we didn't do anything!" and the man answered, "you survived, that's enough"...

Good luck fighting someone with an AR-15 with your bare hands.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, it's a good thing you're not a LEO wife. You couldn't handle it. My husband retired after 26 years in law enforcement and is now a bus driver for fun. His job in an active shooter situation is to get the kids behind him and engage the shooter without a weapon. He wouldn't run, because he's been in many active shooter situations, and in many hostage negotiations. He would do his job, even if it meant losing his life. But that shooter would die, too, or be incapacitated. The kids would be off the bus and officers would be responding. You don't marry a cop and expect him to come home safely. You expect a call. The fact that he didn't die during his career is a blessing, but I would be ashamed of him if he didn't do his job now if he was in that situation,and he would be ashamed of himself for being a coward.

So now we're equating teachers with LEOs? They are not the same and should not be treated the same way? LEOs have a reasonable expectation that they will encounter a violent situation. They are trained to do so and go into the profession expecting to use their training. Teachers should not have the same expectation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Prepare for him to be fired.

He could get a new job outside teaching?!

[Anonymous]

OP does the same philosophy apply in a fire?

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OP does the same philosophy apply in a tornado?

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OP does the same philosophy apply in a flood?

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OP does the same philosophy apply in an earthquake?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a high school teacher, and that's my plan. I'm a single parent. I'm going to do whatever I can to ensure that I make it home, and I've told my child to expect her teacher to do the same. I'm sorry, but you can't have it both ways. We're villainized constantly regardless of how much we try. I'm sick of every time there's a school shooting that results in a teacher's death, they're lauded as heroes. They're victims. I shouldn't have to choose between making my child an orphan and saving someone else's kid. We don't have metal detectors, armed security, locking doors, or even doors that open into the room that we can barricade. You won't pay me a decent wage for what I do? Fine. At least spend the money to try and give me some sense of security. Instead, we get bullshit about statistics and how it's highly unlikely we'll have a shooting. We're told that metal detectors aren't in the budget. I've told my students that our plan is to toss a chair through the window and make a run for it.

All of this x1000. Well said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a high school teacher, and that's my plan. I'm a single parent. I'm going to do whatever I can to ensure that I make it home, and I've told my child to expect her teacher to do the same. I'm sorry, but you can't have it both ways. We're villainized constantly regardless of how much we try. I'm sick of every time there's a school shooting that results in a teacher's death, they're lauded as heroes. They're victims. I shouldn't have to choose between making my child an orphan and saving someone else's kid. We don't have metal detectors, armed security, locking doors, or even doors that open into the room that we can barricade. You won't pay me a decent wage for what I do? Fine. At least spend the money to try and give me some sense of security. Instead, we get bullshit about statistics and how it's highly unlikely we'll have a shooting. We're told that metal detectors aren't in the budget. I've told my students that our plan is to toss a chair through the window and make a run for it.

t least we know why you're a single parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My husband is the hero. He would be the one charging the gun man.

We have had some scary incidents because he went to help people—-wrestled a guy with a knife who was trying to attack/rob a woman, etc.

I have feelings like you—-but later I am proud of him.

He's an idiot. Why risk being stabbed or shot or even punched in the face for some stranger?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a high school teacher, and that's my plan. I'm a single parent. I'm going to do whatever I can to ensure that I make it home, and I've told my child to expect her teacher to do the same. I'm sorry, but you can't have it both ways. We're villainized constantly regardless of how much we try. I'm sick of every time there's a school shooting that results in a teacher's death, they're lauded as heroes. They're victims. I shouldn't have to choose between making my child an orphan and saving someone else's kid. We don't have metal detectors, armed security, locking doors, or even doors that open into the room that we can barricade. You won't pay me a decent wage for what I do? Fine. At least spend the money to try and give me some sense of security. Instead, we get bullshit about statistics and how it's highly unlikely we'll have a shooting. We're told that metal detectors aren't in the budget. I've told my students that our plan is to toss a chair through the window and make a run for it.

All of this x1000. Well said.

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