Why are you deleting my posts in the Explaining Transgenderism thread?

[Anonymous]

I'm sick of people whining about Jeff deleting their posts. Get over it. It's his website you're using for free.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just deleted a post in which I made the correct factual statement that transgenderism is a mental disorder in the DSM? Pray tell, why?

Maybe because it's not quite that cut and dry?

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/04/gender-dysphoria-dsm-5_n_3385287.html

My question is for Jeff or the website admin. You obviously don’t want to argue with me on the facts. A HuffPo article, really? The DSM is a diagnostic manual of mental disorders. Instead of arguing with me with logic, you’re reporting my posts to get them deleted despite my posts being neither offensive nor factually incorrect. It’s really pathetic that you feel the need to do that.

Well I'm not who reported you, and not interested in arguing. But the HuffPo article just gave an outline about the DSM's view, pointing out that it's not transgenderism itself that is classified as a mental disorder, it would be applied to an individual suffering distress at being transgendered. It's the distress that falls under a mental health issue, not being transgendered itself.

But anyway, the DSM for years and years said homosexuality was a mental disorder, but that was abandoned. So it's certainly not the be all to end all.

Take it to the actual thread. And since when is “it’s not that cut and dry” a reason someone’s post should be deleted.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, you need to do a mea culpa here. You’re totally off base with the way you’re restricting discussion on these serious topics.

To the extent that I may be off base, it is probably in the opposite direction. In both of the threads mentioned here the OPs simply want advice for their children. Neither showed any interest in a broader debate. I probably need to remove a lot more posts from both threads.

The relevance to what you tell your kids is patently obvious.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just deleted a post in which I made the correct factual statement that transgenderism is a mental disorder in the DSM? Pray tell, why?

Are you seriously going to tell a 6 year old that his friend is mentally ill based on what is listed in the DSM? Your statement may be factual, but it has little to do with the topic.

Uh, yes, I am. Are you serious? I’d tell a 6 year old the same thing if a friend was cutting themselves. I’d say, be nice to Larla because she’s having emotional problems that she’s working through. Given all the stuff in that thread, to delete MY posts as off topic. Really??

You just contradicted yourself. Are you going to say that the child has "emotional problems" or is "mentally ill because of what the DSM says"?

I have deleted a lot of posts from that thread and would be happy to delete more if anyone wants to report them. There are 70 posts in that thread and there are a lot of things I rather do than read every one of them.

That’s not a contradiction. It’s 6-year-old speak for “This is a mental illness in the DSM.” I feel comfortable describing it as “emotional problems” and not as normal BECAUSE it actually is in the DSM. Reinstate my posts please.

Sorry, I can't reinstate posts and even if I could, I would not reinstate one that uses language that you just admired that you would not actually use in the OP's situation. You still don't seem to understand the topic of the thread. It is not an opportunity for you to spout your opinions about transgender people. Rather, it is to assist the OP in explaining her child's friend's transition. Your attempted hijacking of the thread to debate what the DSM says (something which you are apparently wrong about) does not provide assistance to the OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm sick of people whining about Jeff deleting their posts. Get over it. It's his website you're using for free.

That’s fine and I’m asking him to reconsider. And if he refuses constructive feedback and manages his free website in a ridiculous manner, I’ll go elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, you need to do a mea culpa here. You’re totally off base with the way you’re restricting discussion on these serious topics.

To the extent that I may be off base, it is probably in the opposite direction. In both of the threads mentioned here the OPs simply want advice for their children. Neither showed any interest in a broader debate. I probably need to remove a lot more posts from both threads.

NP. So? So what? This is just an excuse for Jeff to content restrict what he doesn't agree with. As usual. Op, this is nothing new. The only thing aggravating is Jeff's continued insistence that he's applying rules consistently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sick of people whining about Jeff deleting their posts. Get over it. It's his website you're using for free.

That’s fine and I’m asking him to reconsider. And if he refuses constructive feedback and manages his free website in a ridiculous manner, I’ll go elsewhere.

Please do.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just deleted a post in which I made the correct factual statement that transgenderism is a mental disorder in the DSM? Pray tell, why?

Are you seriously going to tell a 6 year old that his friend is mentally ill based on what is listed in the DSM? Your statement may be factual, but it has little to do with the topic.

Uh, yes, I am. Are you serious? I’d tell a 6 year old the same thing if a friend was cutting themselves. I’d say, be nice to Larla because she’s having emotional problems that she’s working through. Given all the stuff in that thread, to delete MY posts as off topic. Really??

You just contradicted yourself. Are you going to say that the child has "emotional problems" or is "mentally ill because of what the DSM says"?

I have deleted a lot of posts from that thread and would be happy to delete more if anyone wants to report them. There are 70 posts in that thread and there are a lot of things I rather do than read every one of them.

That’s not a contradiction. It’s 6-year-old speak for “This is a mental illness in the DSM.” I feel comfortable describing it as “emotional problems” and not as normal BECAUSE it actually is in the DSM. Reinstate my posts please.

Sorry, I can't reinstate posts and even if I could, I would not reinstate one that uses language that you just admired that you would not actually use in the OP's situation. You still don't seem to understand the topic of the thread. It is not an opportunity for you to spout your opinions about transgender people. Rather, it is to assist the OP in explaining her child's friend's transition. Your attempted hijacking of the thread to debate what the DSM says (something which you are apparently wrong about) does not provide assistance to the OP.

I’m not wrong about it. Why do you say that? Because someone posted a HuffPo article? Can I go back to the original thread and explain why I’m not wrong? I didn’t hijack the thread. The relevance of it being a mental illness to what you tell your kids is pretty obvious but if you want me to spell that out in every post I make, fine.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just deleted a post in which I made the correct factual statement that transgenderism is a mental disorder in the DSM? Pray tell, why?

Are you seriously going to tell a 6 year old that his friend is mentally ill based on what is listed in the DSM? Your statement may be factual, but it has little to do with the topic.

Uh, yes, I am. Are you serious? I’d tell a 6 year old the same thing if a friend was cutting themselves. I’d say, be nice to Larla because she’s having emotional problems that she’s working through. Given all the stuff in that thread, to delete MY posts as off topic. Really??

You just contradicted yourself. Are you going to say that the child has "emotional problems" or is "mentally ill because of what the DSM says"?

I have deleted a lot of posts from that thread and would be happy to delete more if anyone wants to report them. There are 70 posts in that thread and there are a lot of things I rather do than read every one of them.

That’s not a contradiction. It’s 6-year-old speak for “This is a mental illness in the DSM.” I feel comfortable describing it as “emotional problems” and not as normal BECAUSE it actually is in the DSM. Reinstate my posts please.

Sorry, I can't reinstate posts and even if I could, I would not reinstate one that uses language that you just admired that you would not actually use in the OP's situation. You still don't seem to understand the topic of the thread. It is not an opportunity for you to spout your opinions about transgender people. Rather, it is to assist the OP in explaining her child's friend's transition. Your attempted hijacking of the thread to debate what the DSM says (something which you are apparently wrong about) does not provide assistance to the OP.

Jeff, the only times you insist on such strict policing of whether something is "on topic" is when you need an excuse to content-restrict. Just pathetic that you're too cowardly to admit it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sick of people whining about Jeff deleting their posts. Get over it. It's his website you're using for free.

That’s fine and I’m asking him to reconsider. And if he refuses constructive feedback and manages his free website in a ridiculous manner, I’ll go elsewhere.

Please do.

You know, it totally cracks me up that you’re shunning me because I don’t agree with you on this topic. I’m about as far from a Trumpster as you can get, but no wonder people having a bad impression of liberals who can’t tolerate any moderate dissent.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:
I’m not wrong about it. Why do you say that? Because someone posted a HuffPo article? Can I go back to the original thread and explain why I’m not wrong? I didn’t hijack the thread. The relevance of it being a mental illness to what you tell your kids is pretty obvious but if you want me to spell that out in every post I make, fine.

I personally have zero understanding of the DSM or what it says. But, I don't think that I would be alone in giving more credit to a bylined Huffington Post article than a post by "Anonymous". Like all other posters, you are welcome to advise the OP in how to address this topic with her child. A debate on the broader topic is not welcome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just deleted a post in which I made the correct factual statement that transgenderism is a mental disorder in the DSM? Pray tell, why?

Maybe because it's not quite that cut and dry?

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/04/gender-dysphoria-dsm-5_n_3385287.html

My question is for Jeff or the website admin. You obviously don’t want to argue with me on the facts. A HuffPo article, really? The DSM is a diagnostic manual of mental disorders. Instead of arguing with me with logic, you’re reporting my posts to get them deleted despite my posts being neither offensive nor factually incorrect. It’s really pathetic that you feel the need to do that.

My question for the pp: Do you believe the maxim that when given the choice between being right and being kind, always choose kind?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I’m not wrong about it. Why do you say that? Because someone posted a HuffPo article? Can I go back to the original thread and explain why I’m not wrong? I didn’t hijack the thread. The relevance of it being a mental illness to what you tell your kids is pretty obvious but if you want me to spell that out in every post I make, fine.

I personally have zero understanding of the DSM or what it says. But, I don't think that I would be alone in giving more credit to a bylined Huffington Post article than a post by "Anonymous". Like all other posters, you are welcome to advise the OP in how to address this topic with her child. A debate on the broader topic is not welcome.

If you have zero understanding, then maybe you should refrain from telling people (anonymous or not) that they’re wrong. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I’m not wrong about it. Why do you say that? Because someone posted a HuffPo article? Can I go back to the original thread and explain why I’m not wrong? I didn’t hijack the thread. The relevance of it being a mental illness to what you tell your kids is pretty obvious but if you want me to spell that out in every post I make, fine.

I personally have zero understanding of the DSM or what it says. But, I don't think that I would be alone in giving more credit to a bylined Huffington Post article than a post by "Anonymous". Like all other posters, you are welcome to advise the OP in how to address this topic with her child. A debate on the broader topic is not welcome.

Frankly, Jeff, you just don't want people to read about how the DSM views gender dysphoria as a mental disorder or to discuss it. You choose to rather delete any mention of a dissenting opinion. Which is just a sad reflection on the stage of the Liberal community as a whole. This is exactly why people dislike the new brand of Liberalism. Frankly, it's dangerous and frightening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just deleted a post in which I made the correct factual statement that transgenderism is a mental disorder in the DSM? Pray tell, why?

Maybe because it's not quite that cut and dry?

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/04/gender-dysphoria-dsm-5_n_3385287.html

My question is for Jeff or the website admin. You obviously don’t want to argue with me on the facts. A HuffPo article, really? The DSM is a diagnostic manual of mental disorders. Instead of arguing with me with logic, you’re reporting my posts to get them deleted despite my posts being neither offensive nor factually incorrect. It’s really pathetic that you feel the need to do that.

My question for the pp: Do you believe the maxim that when given the choice between being right and being kind, always choose kind?

Is your question in relation to my posts here or in the actual thread?