Why are you deleting my posts in the Explaining Transgenderism thread?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just deleted a post in which I made the correct factual statement that transgenderism is a mental disorder in the DSM? Pray tell, why?

Are you seriously going to tell a 6 year old that his friend is mentally ill based on what is listed in the DSM? Your statement may be factual, but it has little to do with the topic.

NP.

Yes, I would tell my six year old exactly that. Of course I would put it in six year old terms, but I would definitely explain what the DSM is and says, and what noted medical institutions such as Johns Hopkins says. I would also answer any other questions my six year old would come up with. I've had three six year olds, and all were thoughtful enough to handle it.

You can also explain to your child that his friend is not dangerous to him and others.

You are another poster who didn't read the thread and is only coming to this thread because you never miss an opportunity to whine about "liberal bias". Nobody believes that you would discuss the DSM with a six year old.

I posted earlier in this thread, but I would absolutely positively discuss this in scientific terms with my kids. I have explained it that way in relation to my bipolar brother. Whether or not the DSM is specifically mentioned is itrelevant. That is where I get my scientific information. And I do understand the DSM - I am not a psychiatrist but I am a doctor.

So yes, I do believe this poster (who is not me, btw) would most certainly discuss the DSM with a 6 year old.

+1

Same.

And I wonder at Jeff's nasty streak showing up at the PP who merely made a statement regarding how she would approach this subject with her child.

This deletion was inappropriate but it's hardly Jeff's first time at completely eliminating a point of view he doesn't want others to see or hear.

That poster joins almost every thread in which someone is upset with me to pile on. She has spent years criticizing my every action. She didn't read the thread we are discussing, never saw the post that was deleted, and has no interest in anything we are discussing other than taking one more opportunity to criticize me. You would get nasty after a while too if you had to put up with her.

Jeff, how old are you? Because you are extremely emotionally immature and you lash out so transparently.

FWIW, I have not been "criticizing your every action" nor have I spent "years" doing it. You must have me confused with someone else, or else there are more people like me with similar opinions o you. I describe what I have seen here, and it's sad that when you are clearly in the wrong, the only thing you know to do is throw out lies and made-up personal attacks.

Frankly it just shows that you have absolutely nothing substantive.

I wasn't referring to you. The poster I was describing is the author of the post that begins, "Yes, I would tell my six year old exactly that". Ironically, you have posted multiple times in this thread to criticize me and my actions, now even questioning my age and emotional maturity and accusing me of lying. But, of course, you don't like personal attacks.

Edit to add. I just realized which poster you are and it makes your hypocrisy even more blatant. You have done nothing in this thread other than attack me. How ironic that you would question my emotional maturity when you join a thread that has nothing to do with you and accuse me of lying.

[Anonymous]

I dunno, Jeff. Given your rationale for locking the other thread was you didn’t want to bother with it anymore but you’re happy to argue with multiple people in this thread, I gotta wonder about your maturity. There are other admins for this site that can moderate it if you’re so fed up with everyone, right?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:I dunno, Jeff. Given your rationale for locking the other thread was you didn’t want to bother with it anymore but you’re happy to argue with multiple people in this thread, I gotta wonder about your maturity. There are other admins for this site that can moderate it if you’re so fed up with everyone, right?

Do you think that I shouldn't respond when people accuse me of being a liar? I could lock this thread, would that make you happy? The only other admin is busy this evening. So, you are stuck with me and my immature emotions. Deal with it.

[Anonymous]

I posted a while back.

Jeff and others, you should all take a break.
All of your opinions are perfectly valid.
There is no need to get caught up in pesky details about who accused who of what.

And even though I may not agree, Jeff is allowed to delete whatever posts he wants.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just deleted a post in which I made the correct factual statement that transgenderism is a mental disorder in the DSM? Pray tell, why?

Are you seriously going to tell a 6 year old that his friend is mentally ill based on what is listed in the DSM? Your statement may be factual, but it has little to do with the topic.

NP.

Yes, I would tell my six year old exactly that. Of course I would put it in six year old terms, but I would definitely explain what the DSM is and says, and what noted medical institutions such as Johns Hopkins says. I would also answer any other questions my six year old would come up with. I've had three six year olds, and all were thoughtful enough to handle it.

You can also explain to your child that his friend is not dangerous to him and others.

You are another poster who didn't read the thread and is only coming to this thread because you never miss an opportunity to whine about "liberal bias". Nobody believes that you would discuss the DSM with a six year old.

I posted earlier in this thread, but I would absolutely positively discuss this in scientific terms with my kids. I have explained it that way in relation to my bipolar brother. Whether or not the DSM is specifically mentioned is itrelevant. That is where I get my scientific information. And I do understand the DSM - I am not a psychiatrist but I am a doctor.

So yes, I do believe this poster (who is not me, btw) would most certainly discuss the DSM with a 6 year old.

+1

Same.

And I wonder at Jeff's nasty streak showing up at the PP who merely made a statement regarding how she would approach this subject with her child.

This deletion was inappropriate but it's hardly Jeff's first time at completely eliminating a point of view he doesn't want others to see or hear.

That poster joins almost every thread in which someone is upset with me to pile on. She has spent years criticizing my every action. She didn't read the thread we are discussing, never saw the post that was deleted, and has no interest in anything we are discussing other than taking one more opportunity to criticize me. You would get nasty after a while too if you had to put up with her.

Jeff, how old are you? Because you are extremely emotionally immature and you lash out so transparently.

FWIW, I have not been "criticizing your every action" nor have I spent "years" doing it. You must have me confused with someone else, or else there are more people like me with similar opinions o you. I describe what I have seen here, and it's sad that when you are clearly in the wrong, the only thing you know to do is throw out lies and made-up personal attacks.

Frankly it just shows that you have absolutely nothing substantive.

I wasn't referring to you. The poster I was describing is the author of the post that begins, "Yes, I would tell my six year old exactly that". Ironically, you have posted multiple times in this thread to criticize me and my actions, now even questioning my age and emotional maturity and accusing me of lying. But, of course, you don't like personal attacks.

Edit to add. I just realized which poster you are and it makes your hypocrisy even more blatant. You have done nothing in this thread other than attack me. How ironic that you would question my emotional maturity when you join a thread that has nothing to do with you and accuse me of lying.

Wait - I am the one who said I would say exactly that to my 6 year old. And I can’t think of one time I have come here to attack you. Not one. Please check your IP addresses because I am certainly not your habitual attacker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just deleted a post in which I made the correct factual statement that transgenderism is a mental disorder in the DSM? Pray tell, why?

Are you seriously going to tell a 6 year old that his friend is mentally ill based on what is listed in the DSM? Your statement may be factual, but it has little to do with the topic.

NP.

Yes, I would tell my six year old exactly that. Of course I would put it in six year old terms, but I would definitely explain what the DSM is and says, and what noted medical institutions such as Johns Hopkins says. I would also answer any other questions my six year old would come up with. I've had three six year olds, and all were thoughtful enough to handle it.

You can also explain to your child that his friend is not dangerous to him and others.

You are another poster who didn't read the thread and is only coming to this thread because you never miss an opportunity to whine about "liberal bias". Nobody believes that you would discuss the DSM with a six year old.

I posted earlier in this thread, but I would absolutely positively discuss this in scientific terms with my kids. I have explained it that way in relation to my bipolar brother. Whether or not the DSM is specifically mentioned is itrelevant. That is where I get my scientific information. And I do understand the DSM - I am not a psychiatrist but I am a doctor.

So yes, I do believe this poster (who is not me, btw) would most certainly discuss the DSM with a 6 year old.

+1

Same.

And I wonder at Jeff's nasty streak showing up at the PP who merely made a statement regarding how she would approach this subject with her child.

This deletion was inappropriate but it's hardly Jeff's first time at completely eliminating a point of view he doesn't want others to see or hear.

That poster joins almost every thread in which someone is upset with me to pile on. She has spent years criticizing my every action. She didn't read the thread we are discussing, never saw the post that was deleted, and has no interest in anything we are discussing other than taking one more opportunity to criticize me. You would get nasty after a while too if you had to put up with her.

Jeff, how old are you? Because you are extremely emotionally immature and you lash out so transparently.

FWIW, I have not been "criticizing your every action" nor have I spent "years" doing it. You must have me confused with someone else, or else there are more people like me with similar opinions o you. I describe what I have seen here, and it's sad that when you are clearly in the wrong, the only thing you know to do is throw out lies and made-up personal attacks.

Frankly it just shows that you have absolutely nothing substantive.

I wasn't referring to you. The poster I was describing is the author of the post that begins, "Yes, I would tell my six year old exactly that". Ironically, you have posted multiple times in this thread to criticize me and my actions, now even questioning my age and emotional maturity and accusing me of lying. But, of course, you don't like personal attacks.

Edit to add. I just realized which poster you are and it makes your hypocrisy even more blatant. You have done nothing in this thread other than attack me. How ironic that you would question my emotional maturity when you join a thread that has nothing to do with you and accuse me of lying.

Wait - I am the one who said I would say exactly that to my 6 year old. And I can’t think of one time I have come here to attack you. Not one. Please check your IP addresses because I am certainly not your habitual attacker.

Scratch that. I think you were referring to another post.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Scratch that. I think you were referring to another post.

Yes, your post said something similar, but was not the one to which I was referring.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just deleted a post in which I made the correct factual statement that transgenderism is a mental disorder in the DSM? Pray tell, why?

Are you seriously going to tell a 6 year old that his friend is mentally ill based on what is listed in the DSM? Your statement may be factual, but it has little to do with the topic.

NP.

Yes, I would tell my six year old exactly that. Of course I would put it in six year old terms, but I would definitely explain what the DSM is and says, and what noted medical institutions such as Johns Hopkins says. I would also answer any other questions my six year old would come up with. I've had three six year olds, and all were thoughtful enough to handle it.

You can also explain to your child that his friend is not dangerous to him and others.

You are another poster who didn't read the thread and is only coming to this thread because you never miss an opportunity to whine about "liberal bias". Nobody believes that you would discuss the DSM with a six year old.

I posted earlier in this thread, but I would absolutely positively discuss this in scientific terms with my kids. I have explained it that way in relation to my bipolar brother. Whether or not the DSM is specifically mentioned is itrelevant. That is where I get my scientific information. And I do understand the DSM - I am not a psychiatrist but I am a doctor.

So yes, I do believe this poster (who is not me, btw) would most certainly discuss the DSM with a 6 year old.

+1

Same.

And I wonder at Jeff's nasty streak showing up at the PP who merely made a statement regarding how she would approach this subject with her child.

This deletion was inappropriate but it's hardly Jeff's first time at completely eliminating a point of view he doesn't want others to see or hear.

That poster joins almost every thread in which someone is upset with me to pile on. She has spent years criticizing my every action. She didn't read the thread we are discussing, never saw the post that was deleted, and has no interest in anything we are discussing other than taking one more opportunity to criticize me. You would get nasty after a while too if you had to put up with her.

Jeff, how old are you? Because you are extremely emotionally immature and you lash out so transparently.

FWIW, I have not been "criticizing your every action" nor have I spent "years" doing it. You must have me confused with someone else, or else there are more people like me with similar opinions o you. I describe what I have seen here, and it's sad that when you are clearly in the wrong, the only thing you know to do is throw out lies and made-up personal attacks.

Frankly it just shows that you have absolutely nothing substantive.

I wasn't referring to you. The poster I was describing is the author of the post that begins, "Yes, I would tell my six year old exactly that". Ironically, you have posted multiple times in this thread to criticize me and my actions, now even questioning my age and emotional maturity and accusing me of lying. But, of course, you don't like personal attacks.

Edit to add. I just realized which poster you are and it makes your hypocrisy even more blatant. You have done nothing in this thread other than attack me. How ironic that you would question my emotional maturity when you join a thread that has nothing to do with you and accuse me of lying.

Excuse me if I misunderstood your comment as directed toward me. But had it been, it would have been something you *made up* which is the part I had a problem with. I have no idea who you think has been criticizing your every action, but it certainly is not me. However, I do think you are often dishonest about your motives with deleting and as a person who uses this site it absolutely has something to do with me.

You own the site, Jeff, and obviously you do what you want. But we all know that the web traffic substantial income for you and your wife. So to the PPs who like to harp on how "Jeff can do whatever he wants, it's his site!" It's us users who see the ads and pays his bills. So stop acting like a bunch of toadies for whom Jeff is doing some giant favor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just deleted a post in which I made the correct factual statement that transgenderism is a mental disorder in the DSM? Pray tell, why?

Are you seriously going to tell a 6 year old that his friend is mentally ill based on what is listed in the DSM? Your statement may be factual, but it has little to do with the topic.

NP.

Yes, I would tell my six year old exactly that. Of course I would put it in six year old terms, but I would definitely explain what the DSM is and says, and what noted medical institutions such as Johns Hopkins says. I would also answer any other questions my six year old would come up with. I've had three six year olds, and all were thoughtful enough to handle it.

You can also explain to your child that his friend is not dangerous to him and others.

You are another poster who didn't read the thread and is only coming to this thread because you never miss an opportunity to whine about "liberal bias". Nobody believes that you would discuss the DSM with a six year old.

I posted earlier in this thread, but I would absolutely positively discuss this in scientific terms with my kids. I have explained it that way in relation to my bipolar brother. Whether or not the DSM is specifically mentioned is itrelevant. That is where I get my scientific information. And I do understand the DSM - I am not a psychiatrist but I am a doctor.

So yes, I do believe this poster (who is not me, btw) would most certainly discuss the DSM with a 6 year old.

+1

Same.

And I wonder at Jeff's nasty streak showing up at the PP who merely made a statement regarding how she would approach this subject with her child.

This deletion was inappropriate but it's hardly Jeff's first time at completely eliminating a point of view he doesn't want others to see or hear.

That poster joins almost every thread in which someone is upset with me to pile on. She has spent years criticizing my every action. She didn't read the thread we are discussing, never saw the post that was deleted, and has no interest in anything we are discussing other than taking one more opportunity to criticize me. You would get nasty after a while too if you had to put up with her.

Jeff, how old are you? Because you are extremely emotionally immature and you lash out so transparently.

FWIW, I have not been "criticizing your every action" nor have I spent "years" doing it. You must have me confused with someone else, or else there are more people like me with similar opinions o you. I describe what I have seen here, and it's sad that when you are clearly in the wrong, the only thing you know to do is throw out lies and made-up personal attacks.

Frankly it just shows that you have absolutely nothing substantive.

I wasn't referring to you. The poster I was describing is the author of the post that begins, "Yes, I would tell my six year old exactly that". Ironically, you have posted multiple times in this thread to criticize me and my actions, now even questioning my age and emotional maturity and accusing me of lying. But, of course, you don't like personal attacks.

Edit to add. I just realized which poster you are and it makes your hypocrisy even more blatant. You have done nothing in this thread other than attack me. How ironic that you would question my emotional maturity when you join a thread that has nothing to do with you and accuse me of lying.

Excuse me if I misunderstood your comment as directed toward me. But had it been, it would have been something you *made up* which is the part I had a problem with. I have no idea who you think has been criticizing your every action, but it certainly is not me. However, I do think you are often dishonest about your motives with deleting and as a person who uses this site it absolutely has something to do with me.

You own the site, Jeff, and obviously you do what you want. But we all know that the web traffic substantial income for you and your wife. So to the PPs who like to harp on how "Jeff can do whatever he wants, it's his site!" It's us users who see the ads and pays his bills. So stop acting like a bunch of toadies for whom Jeff is doing some giant favor.

I see your point, but you said it yourself - he can do what he wants.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:You own the site, Jeff, and obviously you do what you want. But we all know that the web traffic substantial income for you and your wife. So to the PPs who like to harp on how "Jeff can do whatever he wants, it's his site!" It's us users who see the ads and pays his bills. So stop acting like a bunch of toadies for whom Jeff is doing some giant favor.

I want to address this point directly. Just to be clear, my family's entire income comes from this site. If DCUM has no traffic, my family doesn't eat. If my moderation causes users to leave, we lose money. But, what a bunch of you folks don't realize is that it is generally the posts that I delete that are more likely to drive users away than the fact that I deleted them. If DCUM was filled with the type of racist garbage that can be found on sites that moderate posts differently, we would not have much of our user base. Similarly, if users are not able to get answers to their questions because their threads are hijacked by people debating their opinions rather than answering the question, DCUM will lose users. I have moderated the website for over 10 years. Every year has seen substantial revenue growth. I think I can be forgiven for believing that I am doing something right. As I have said, I don't expect anyone to agree with everything I do and certainly not everyone. There will be those who don't like how I do things. That's life. You can accept that's the way things are or you can find somewhere else to spend your time. Of course, you can also post incessantly in Website Feedback telling me what a lousy job I'm doing. Regardless, I will continue doing what I believe is best for DCUM and, consequently, for my family.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just deleted a post in which I made the correct factual statement that transgenderism is a mental disorder in the DSM? Pray tell, why?

Are you seriously going to tell a 6 year old that his friend is mentally ill based on what is listed in the DSM? Your statement may be factual, but it has little to do with the topic.

NP.

Yes, I would tell my six year old exactly that. Of course I would put it in six year old terms, but I would definitely explain what the DSM is and says, and what noted medical institutions such as Johns Hopkins says. I would also answer any other questions my six year old would come up with. I've had three six year olds, and all were thoughtful enough to handle it.

You can also explain to your child that his friend is not dangerous to him and others.

You are another poster who didn't read the thread and is only coming to this thread because you never miss an opportunity to whine about "liberal bias". Nobody believes that you would discuss the DSM with a six year old.

I posted earlier in this thread, but I would absolutely positively discuss this in scientific terms with my kids. I have explained it that way in relation to my bipolar brother. Whether or not the DSM is specifically mentioned is itrelevant. That is where I get my scientific information. And I do understand the DSM - I am not a psychiatrist but I am a doctor.

So yes, I do believe this poster (who is not me, btw) would most certainly discuss the DSM with a 6 year old.

You can believe what you want, but like other posters, you have contradicted yourself. We were discussing whether anyone would discuss the DSM with a six year old. Given that "DSM" is the actual thing we were discussing, I don't see how that could be irrelevant. Obviously, many of us might discuss complex issues such as mental illness with children. However, we -- including you apparently -- would use language that is age appropriate. No six year old would understand what an adult meant by the DSM. Moreover, by justifying her position by referencing the DSM, the OP of this thread caused the discussion to divert into a debate about her understanding of the DSM.

You can easily explain to a child that the DSM is a guide doctors use to help diagnose people.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You just deleted a post in which I made the correct factual statement that transgenderism is a mental disorder in the DSM? Pray tell, why?

Are you seriously going to tell a 6 year old that his friend is mentally ill based on what is listed in the DSM? Your statement may be factual, but it has little to do with the topic.

NP.

Yes, I would tell my six year old exactly that. Of course I would put it in six year old terms, but I would definitely explain what the DSM is and says, and what noted medical institutions such as Johns Hopkins says. I would also answer any other questions my six year old would come up with. I've had three six year olds, and all were thoughtful enough to handle it.

You can also explain to your child that his friend is not dangerous to him and others.

You are another poster who didn't read the thread and is only coming to this thread because you never miss an opportunity to whine about "liberal bias". Nobody believes that you would discuss the DSM with a six year old.

I posted earlier in this thread, but I would absolutely positively discuss this in scientific terms with my kids. I have explained it that way in relation to my bipolar brother. Whether or not the DSM is specifically mentioned is itrelevant. That is where I get my scientific information. And I do understand the DSM - I am not a psychiatrist but I am a doctor.

So yes, I do believe this poster (who is not me, btw) would most certainly discuss the DSM with a 6 year old.

+1

Same.

And I wonder at Jeff's nasty streak showing up at the PP who merely made a statement regarding how she would approach this subject with her child.

This deletion was inappropriate but it's hardly Jeff's first time at completely eliminating a point of view he doesn't want others to see or hear.

That poster joins almost every thread in which someone is upset with me to pile on. She has spent years criticizing my every action. She didn't read the thread we are discussing, never saw the post that was deleted, and has no interest in anything we are discussing other than taking one more opportunity to criticize me. You would get nasty after a while too if you had to put up with her.

Wrong PP

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Scratch that. I think you were referring to another post.

Yes, your post said something similar, but was not the one to which I was referring.

So multiple people are saying they would reference DSM? And they are all liars and wrong because they disagree with you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Scratch that. I think you were referring to another post.

Yes, your post said something similar, but was not the one to which I was referring.

So multiple people are saying they would reference DSM? And they are all liars and wrong because they disagree with you?

NP. They may or may not be liars. The only truth is that they are judgemental a-holes. MYOB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Scratch that. I think you were referring to another post.

Yes, your post said something similar, but was not the one to which I was referring.

So multiple people are saying they would reference DSM? And they are all liars and wrong because they disagree with you?

NP. They may or may not be liars. The only truth is that they are judgemental a-holes. MYOB.

Are you the same person on the non binary thread who keeps repeating "you're a judgmental a-hole MYOB"? Its getting old. I may start making good use of my report button. There's only so many times one can read that without any accompanying rational conversation.