Board of Veterans Appeals (Attorney Advisor)

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Too bad JDU is gone they had a great topic on this about how horrible this job is


JDU is gone?!? Wow, I guess I hadn't been to that site in a while.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Too bad JDU is gone they had a great topic on this about how horrible this job is


JDU is gone?!? Wow, I guess I hadn't been to that site in a while.
gone gone
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind if you get fired or asked to resign you’ll be unsuitable for federal employment again


Where did you hear this?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind if you get fired or asked to resign you’ll be unsuitable for federal employment again


Where did you hear this?
all over the place. Former federal employees. If you get fired from
A federal job you are deemed unsuitable and cannot pass even the most basic background check public trust
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind if you get fired or asked to resign you’ll be unsuitable for federal employment again


Where did you hear this?
all over the place. Former federal employees. If you get fired from
A federal job you are deemed unsuitable and cannot pass even the most basic background check public trust


Fired, I understand. But deemed unsuitable for resigning as well? Do you have a link to an article or a rule book or something stating this? Thanks.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind if you get fired or asked to resign you’ll be unsuitable for federal employment again


Where did you hear this?
all over the place. Former federal employees. If you get fired from
A federal job you are deemed unsuitable and cannot pass even the most basic background check public trust


Fired, I understand. But deemed unsuitable for resigning as well? Do you have a link to an article or a rule book or something stating this? Thanks.
if you are asked to resign it’s the same as being fired. People there tend to quit before they are-asked to resign and they have no issues getting fed jobs
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind if you get fired or asked to resign you’ll be unsuitable for federal employment again


Where did you hear this?
all over the place. Former federal employees. If you get fired from
A federal job you are deemed unsuitable and cannot pass even the most basic background check public trust


Fired, I understand. But deemed unsuitable for resigning as well? Do you have a link to an article or a rule book or something stating this? Thanks.
if you are asked to resign it’s the same as being fired. People there tend to quit before they are-asked to resign and they have no issues getting fed jobs


I thought quitting and resigning were the same thing. If you quit the BVA, how would you go about proving that you weren’t forced to resign? Or if you’re forced to resign, how would anybody know that you didn’t just quit.
Anonymous
Read the glass door reviews. People get fired for asking to transfer judges and you can expect to work 70 or more hours a week
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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind if you get fired or asked to resign you’ll be unsuitable for federal employment again


Where did you hear this?
all over the place. Former federal employees. If you get fired from
A federal job you are deemed unsuitable and cannot pass even the most basic background check public trust


Fired, I understand. But deemed unsuitable for resigning as well? Do you have a link to an article or a rule book or something stating this? Thanks.
if you are asked to resign it’s the same as being fired. People there tend to quit before they are-asked to resign and they have no issues getting fed jobs


I thought quitting and resigning were the same thing. If you quit the BVA, how would you go about proving that you weren’t forced to resign? Or if you’re forced to resign, how would anybody know that you didn’t just quit.
when you apply for a federal job for the public trust background check it asks if you’ve been fired from a job or asked to resign. They will then go to your former employer and ask them .
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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind if you get fired or asked to resign you’ll be unsuitable for federal employment again


Where did you hear this?
all over the place. Former federal employees. If you get fired from
A federal job you are deemed unsuitable and cannot pass even the most basic background check public trust


Fired, I understand. But deemed unsuitable for resigning as well? Do you have a link to an article or a rule book or something stating this? Thanks.
if you are asked to resign it’s the same as being fired. People there tend to quit before they are-asked to resign and they have no issues getting fed jobs


I thought quitting and resigning were the same thing. If you quit the BVA, how would you go about proving that you weren’t forced to resign? Or if you’re forced to resign, how would anybody know that you didn’t just quit.
the background investigator goes to your former employer and asks. The form asks if you’ve been fired or asked to resign. Being fired from a federal govt job makes you unsuitable for federal employment . Lying just adds things on
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind if you get fired or asked to resign you’ll be unsuitable for federal employment again


Where did you hear this?
all over the place. Former federal employees. If you get fired from
A federal job you are deemed unsuitable and cannot pass even the most basic background check public trust


Fired, I understand. But deemed unsuitable for resigning as well? Do you have a link to an article or a rule book or something stating this? Thanks.


This link may answer your question: http://askthelawyer.federaltimes.com/2013/05/09/by-resigning-you-cant-hide-pending-disciplinary-action/

The author of the article, Debra Roth, is a prominent employment attorney in D.C.

Keep in mind that even if you resign or are able to negotiate a "clean record" settlement, you must still disclose any prior adverse action in the OF-306 as part of the hiring process for federal jobs.

Here's a link to a VA OIG investigation regarding a VA employee who failed to disclose a prior proposed termination: https://www.va.gov/oig/pubs/VAOIG-11-04049-205.pdf

Anonymous
FYI, there's also reviews posted on Indeed about the Board: https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Board-of-Veterans-Appeals/reviews?fcountry=US&floc=Washington%2C+DC
Anonymous
One last comment - In May 2018, President Trump signed an executive order prohibiting federal agencies from removing, altering, or withholding from another federal agency any negative information in personnel records. See below:

Sec. 5. Ensuring Integrity of Personnel Files. Agencies shall not agree to erase, remove, alter, or withhold from another agency any information about a civilian employee’s performance or conduct in that employee’s official personnel records, including an employee’s Official Personnel Folder and Employee Performance File, as part of, or as a condition to, resolving a formal or informal complaint by the employee or settling an administrative challenge to an adverse personnel action.

Link: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-promoting-accountability-streamlining-removal-procedures-consistent-merit-system-principles/

What this means is that if you are fired or asked to resign, the Board cannot[u] hide that fact from another federal agency. Keep this in mind if you want to work at the Board.
Anonymous
This job is a black hole. Made the mistake of taking this job immediately after law school when I was seeking a launchpad into the feds. Unfortunately, every reputable fed attorney job knows what a joke the “legal” work at the BVA is. I had to pound the pavement for years before I was able to get out. If you have the option, do not take this job.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My neighbor works there and does not dislike it as much as the people I have seen posting on this board. She says it is true that the quota system is very strict and that the work is repetitive and not all that transferable. However, she has young kids and there is a lot of work-from-home and no travel, so she feels it works for her.


I know someone there and I was feeling her out bc I like the telecommute option. She said much of what the pp has said. However, she said "it's a terrible job and I hate it."
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