Montgmery County approves $15 an hour. Does this = ByeBye to reliabe hours for part timers (my kids)

[Anonymous]

It's far cheaper for McDonalds to install touchscreen ordering kiosks than to employ humans.

Supermarkets will be 90% self checkout.

Office phone lines will all go mostly automated.

Say goodbye to most mom & pop stores.

Seattle made this same mistake and now regrets it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most people pay high school babysitters $15/hour.

What operating expenses to parents have?

Not the same as a business with lots of other costs to factor in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's far cheaper for McDonalds to install touchscreen ordering kiosks than to employ humans.

Supermarkets will be 90% self checkout.

Office phone lines will all go mostly automated.

Say goodbye to most mom & pop stores.

Seattle made this same mistake and now regrets it.

Any smart business owner would be INSANE to keep the same number of employees at $15 an hour at 40 hours a week. INSANE I SAY!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about the rite of passage for teens working all summer to save up for a used car?

Gas money?

Money to go out with their friends?

Money for clothes?

Does the bank of mom & dad now have to cover these expenses as well?

Newsflash: Babysitting.

We pay our teenage sitter $15/hour cash. We use a handful of neighborhood teens as after school sitters. They make great money.
Boys can babysit, too. Our friends hired a neighborhood teen boy to hang out with their son after school and do homework.

At the risk of pointing out the obvious: a teen can earn far more babysitting for cash than working at McDonalds. And let's face it: your teen was never going to work at McDonalds.

All of the summer jobs currently held by teens will still be available (pools, camps, etc.). And the reality is that pools have been importing workers from Eastern Europe for years...because your teens didn't want those crummy, low paying jobs. Ditto for most seasonal beach towns.

[Anonymous]

Just wait to my daughters after school baby sitter wants $15.
All of a sudden that after care program just became a whole lot better looking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not worried about teens. I’m worried about single adults trying to afford a one bedroom apartment on 40 hours a week, so they have time to go to MC or a training school. I’m worried about the young married couple with a baby trying to afford an apartment, daycare, diapers, and formula with both parents working only 40 hours a week. Those folks need $15/hour.

Their hours are about to get cut drastically. From 40 to 20.

No, they won’t. Quit being Chicken Little.

I don't think hours will be cut so much as positions eliminated especially in smaller stores. The higher wages attract better workers. Better workers mean less workers needed to do the same jobs. Chains and larger stores will simply move to automated systems on their stores. The majority of people who couldn't make it before on minimum wage jobs are actually likely to be worse off because limited jobs in the market to begin with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just wait to my daughters after school baby sitter wants $15.
All of a sudden that after care program just became a whole lot better looking.

Why aren't you already paying $15/hour? You have personal, individual care in the comfort of your home for your convenience. You should pay more for that---as opposed to group care. Have you seen the aftercare programs at local schools? Have you observed who works there? Think about it: who would work for low pay at a school-based aftercare program when they could be making $15/cash by privately sitting? The answer: those who normal parents wouldn't hire...they're the ones with limited options who end up working in a daycare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about the rite of passage for teens working all summer to save up for a used car?

Gas money?

Money to go out with their friends?

Money for clothes?

Does the bank of mom & dad now have to cover these expenses as well?

Newsflash: Babysitting.

We pay our teenage sitter $15/hour cash. We use a handful of neighborhood teens as after school sitters. They make great money.
Boys can babysit, too. Our friends hired a neighborhood teen boy to hang out with their son after school and do homework.

At the risk of pointing out the obvious: a teen can earn far more babysitting for cash than working at McDonalds. And let's face it: your teen was never going to work at McDonalds.

All of the summer jobs currently held by teens will still be available (pools, camps, etc.). And the reality is that pools have been importing workers from Eastern Europe for years...because your teens didn't want those crummy, low paying jobs. Ditto for most seasonal beach towns.

I would NEVER let a teenage boy babysit my kids.

[Anonymous]

My teens referee and make $25/ hr

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not worried about teens. I’m worried about single adults trying to afford a one bedroom apartment on 40 hours a week, so they have time to go to MC or a training school. I’m worried about the young married couple with a baby trying to afford an apartment, daycare, diapers, and formula with both parents working only 40 hours a week. Those folks need $15/hour.

I'm worried about the adults working McDonalds who will now be replaced by a kiosk. With their limited skills and a $15 minimum, they'll never work again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not worried about teens. I’m worried about single adults trying to afford a one bedroom apartment on 40 hours a week, so they have time to go to MC or a training school. I’m worried about the young married couple with a baby trying to afford an apartment, daycare, diapers, and formula with both parents working only 40 hours a week. Those folks need $15/hour.

This. The working poor should have a wage that allows them to survive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not worried about teens. I’m worried about single adults trying to afford a one bedroom apartment on 40 hours a week, so they have time to go to MC or a training school. I’m worried about the young married couple with a baby trying to afford an apartment, daycare, diapers, and formula with both parents working only 40 hours a week. Those folks need $15/hour.

This. The working poor should have a wage that allows them to survive.

Fine, but they also need those jobs to exist in the first place. I support a minimum wage, but I also recognize that if it is set at too high a level it will reduce employment - labor can be substituted with capital, like the McDonald kids example shows.

I think $15 is probably too high here and will reduce the demand for labor. $12 would have been a better number.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not worried about teens. I’m worried about single adults trying to afford a one bedroom apartment on 40 hours a week, so they have time to go to MC or a training school. I’m worried about the young married couple with a baby trying to afford an apartment, daycare, diapers, and formula with both parents working only 40 hours a week. Those folks need $15/hour.

I'm worried about the adults working McDonalds who will now be replaced by a kiosk. With their limited skills and a $15 minimum, they'll never work again.

Not only that, but the assistant manager gets around $15/hr. If the liberals in MoCo insist the cashiers' minimum be raised to $15/hr for a job a 12-year-old could do after an hour's training, then the AM will have to be raised, too.

Here's what will happen: All cashiers will be fired and replaced with a kiosk, and the Assistant Manager will continue at $15/hr. He will be now do his regular job AND help the "non-technical" types at the kiosks. So....1) loss of jobs, and 2) more work, same pay for those who remain. Multiply this effect all over, at every little chain throughout the store, both fast food and low-skilled retail.

Liberals can be so stupid.

[Anonymous]

My teenager works full-time in the summers at a private school camp in DC and makes $15/hour. The OP's concerns will go the way of the "Ohmigod, the plastic bag tax will mean that DC residents will never grocery shop again!" and "Ohmigod, the smoking ban will mean that all bars and restaurants in DC will close!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most people pay high school babysitters $15/hour.

Most people do NOT pay high school sitters $15.00/hour. That is laughable.

High school sitters usually get around $10.00/hour.

Don't be foolish.