Can someone please explain to me why "baby it's cold outside" is about date rape?

[Anonymous]

It's not. Just more drivel from the safe space crybabies.

[Anonymous]

I love the playfulness and sexiness. It's not about rape. Chill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't literally think the song is about date rape, but I do think it's a song that comes from an era where the norm was that the woman's role was to say no, and the man's role was to convince her otherwise. That cultural piece has contributed to a lot of the confusion that people have about consent, which can play a role in both date rape, and the lack of consequences for date rape.

I like the song. The tune is sweet, it makes me smile. I hum along when I hear it on the radio. But it also makes me glad that I live in a time and place where I can say what I want without having to worry that I'll be judged for wanting it, and where I can also say no with the expectation that my no will be respected.

I also think that while the "say, what's in this drink?" line was innocent at the time, it makes me think of roofies.

I agree with you. I am a millenial, and I think, for someone of my age, it's very shocking to hear. I'd rather hear Ariana grande sing, enthusiastically, that "you got me walking side to side" because that confers consent and enthusiasm. The "I want to leave" and the man not letting her thing... yeah, I don't get it. It makes me uncomfortable to listen to. I don't think history will be kind to this song, though I know it has a lot of nostalgia for older folks.

What does "you got me walking side to side" mean? Is that a sexual reference?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't literally think the song is about date rape, but I do think it's a song that comes from an era where the norm was that the woman's role was to say no, and the man's role was to convince her otherwise. That cultural piece has contributed to a lot of the confusion that people have about consent, which can play a role in both date rape, and the lack of consequences for date rape.

I like the song. The tune is sweet, it makes me smile. I hum along when I hear it on the radio. But it also makes me glad that I live in a time and place where I can say what I want without having to worry that I'll be judged for wanting it, and where I can also say no with the expectation that my no will be respected.

I also think that while the "say, what's in this drink?" line was innocent at the time, it makes me think of roofies.

I agree with you. I am a millenial, and I think, for someone of my age, it's very shocking to hear. I'd rather hear Ariana grande sing, enthusiastically, that "you got me walking side to side" because that confers consent and enthusiasm. The "I want to leave" and the man not letting her thing... yeah, I don't get it. It makes me uncomfortable to listen to. I don't think history will be kind to this song, though I know it has a lot of nostalgia for older folks.

What does "you got me walking side to side" mean? Is that a sexual reference?

Like they had so much sex that walking is difficult the next day!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't literally think the song is about date rape, but I do think it's a song that comes from an era where the norm was that the woman's role was to say no, and the man's role was to convince her otherwise. That cultural piece has contributed to a lot of the confusion that people have about consent, which can play a role in both date rape, and the lack of consequences for date rape.

I like the song. The tune is sweet, it makes me smile. I hum along when I hear it on the radio. But it also makes me glad that I live in a time and place where I can say what I want without having to worry that I'll be judged for wanting it, and where I can also say no with the expectation that my no will be respected.

I also think that while the "say, what's in this drink?" line was innocent at the time, it makes me think of roofies.

I agree with you. I am a millenial, and I think, for someone of my age, it's very shocking to hear. I'd rather hear Ariana grande sing, enthusiastically, that "you got me walking side to side" because that confers consent and enthusiasm. The "I want to leave" and the man not letting her thing... yeah, I don't get it. It makes me uncomfortable to listen to. I don't think history will be kind to this song, though I know it has a lot of nostalgia for older folks.

What does "you got me walking side to side" mean? Is that a sexual reference?

Like they had so much sex that walking is difficult the next day!

I would never have thought that. Learn something new every day!

[Anonymous]

I think it is funny how puritanical millenials are.

[Anonymous]

https://theawl.com/how-baby-its-cold-outside-became-america-s-secular-christmas-anthem-despite-people-claiming-it-e2ae2b2cf55d#.vaara5rxd

Here is the original movie version of Baby It's Cold Outside.

It was originally sung in two parts in that movie: a man wooing a woman and a woman seducing a man.

It is not at all a date rape song. We need to quit filtering everything by today's extreme PC standards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't literally think the song is about date rape, but I do think it's a song that comes from an era where the norm was that the woman's role was to say no, and the man's role was to convince her otherwise. That cultural piece has contributed to a lot of the confusion that people have about consent, which can play a role in both date rape, and the lack of consequences for date rape.

I like the song. The tune is sweet, it makes me smile. I hum along when I hear it on the radio. But it also makes me glad that I live in a time and place where I can say what I want without having to worry that I'll be judged for wanting it, and where I can also say no with the expectation that my no will be respected.

I also think that while the "say, what's in this drink?" line was innocent at the time, it makes me think of roofies.

I agree with you. I am a millenial, and I think, for someone of my age, it's very shocking to hear. I'd rather hear Ariana grande sing, enthusiastically, that "you got me walking side to side" because that confers consent and enthusiasm. The "I want to leave" and the man not letting her thing... yeah, I don't get it. It makes me uncomfortable to listen to. I don't think history will be kind to this song, though I know it has a lot of nostalgia for older folks.

What does "you got me walking side to side" mean? Is that a sexual reference?

Like they had so much sex that walking is difficult the next day!

No, it's that she's so worked up she can't walk straight. It's not overtly sexual. Geez.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't literally think the song is about date rape, but I do think it's a song that comes from an era where the norm was that the woman's role was to say no, and the man's role was to convince her otherwise. That cultural piece has contributed to a lot of the confusion that people have about consent, which can play a role in both date rape, and the lack of consequences for date rape.

I like the song. The tune is sweet, it makes me smile. I hum along when I hear it on the radio. But it also makes me glad that I live in a time and place where I can say what I want without having to worry that I'll be judged for wanting it, and where I can also say no with the expectation that my no will be respected.

I also think that while the "say, what's in this drink?" line was innocent at the time, it makes me think of roofies.

I agree with you. I am a millenial, and I think, for someone of my age, it's very shocking to hear. I'd rather hear Ariana grande sing, enthusiastically, that "you got me walking side to side" because that confers consent and enthusiasm. The "I want to leave" and the man not letting her thing... yeah, I don't get it. It makes me uncomfortable to listen to. I don't think history will be kind to this song, though I know it has a lot of nostalgia for older folks.

What does "you got me walking side to side" mean? Is that a sexual reference?

Like they had so much sex that walking is difficult the next day!

No, it's that she's so worked up she can't walk straight. It's not overtly sexual. Geez.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3768879/Ariana-Grande-confirms-Nicki-Minaj-duet-sex.html

[Anonymous]

I can't believe PPs are comparing any of the Ariana Grande drivel to this classic and clever songwriting.

[Anonymous]

It is not. Let everyone say the world is flat; it doesn't make the world flat. Grow up folks.

[Anonymous]

The song was written at the time when pre-marital sex (let alone casual sexual hookups) was frowned upon. So, this is really about wanting to taste the "forbidden fruit".

The guy is trying to make her stay by being all chivalrous and being solicitous of her comfort so the line about "it is cold outside", the woman wants to stay but she does not want to come across as "easy" and so she is protesting halfheartedly. I think it is a very sexy and seductive song, mainly because the sexual longing and sexual attraction is so obvious, but they are being so very proper about what is on their mind.

The songs that we hear nowadays are explicit to the point of numbing us to the magic of an intimate romantic relationship. Butt, menage, bare that ass, anaconda.., we do not blink when we hear these words and phrases in the songs today because the sex-act is so devalued and explicit in our culture. I am sorry but there is a big difference between what can be considered erotic and what is porn.

[Anonymous]

^There is nothing erotic about dubious consent. More like repulsive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't literally think the song is about date rape, but I do think it's a song that comes from an era where the norm was that the woman's role was to say no, and the man's role was to convince her otherwise. That cultural piece has contributed to a lot of the confusion that people have about consent, which can play a role in both date rape, and the lack of consequences for date rape.

I like the song. The tune is sweet, it makes me smile. I hum along when I hear it on the radio. But it also makes me glad that I live in a time and place where I can say what I want without having to worry that I'll be judged for wanting it, and where I can also say no with the expectation that my no will be respected.

I also think that while the "say, what's in this drink?" line was innocent at the time, it makes me think of roofies.

I agree with you. I am a millenial, and I think, for someone of my age, it's very shocking to hear. I'd rather hear Ariana grande sing, enthusiastically, that "you got me walking side to side" because that confers consent and enthusiasm. The "I want to leave" and the man not letting her thing... yeah, I don't get it. It makes me uncomfortable to listen to. I don't think history will be kind to this song, though I know it has a lot of nostalgia for older folks.

There was no 'I want to leave' being expressed on the part of the female. She wanted to stay but it would have been frowned upon. Actually read the lyrics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^There is nothing erotic about dubious consent. More like repulsive.

The song is not at all about dubious consent. You are having comprehension issues.

In fact, in the original.portrayal of the song, the version that was most forceful was when the woman was seducing the man. When they man sang to the woman they were either equals or she was the one with the power, not the man.