Freddie Gray case

[Anonymous]

Sorry, what's the theory that he broke his own neck in the police van?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agreed that it's a good decision and overreach by the prosecutor.

Not at all. Even a "not guilty" verdict is justice served and much better than sweeping it under the rug like has been done in the past.

Nope. There was not enough evidence to support the charges. Wasting tax dollars on this was a ridiculous call.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's a good verdict. It is also appropriate the Gray family got a payout.

Cops did not kill Freddy, Baltimore did.

They poisoned him as a child in lead filled housing. They have police practices that are not working and dangerous.

The cops were only following long standing policies and procedures.

You mean the long-standing policy and procedure that he was to be strapped into the van?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a good verdict. It is also appropriate the Gray family got a payout.

Cops did not kill Freddy, Baltimore did.

They poisoned him as a child in lead filled housing. They have police practices that are not working and dangerous.

The cops were only following long standing policies and procedures.

You mean the long-standing policy and procedure that he was to be strapped into the van?

You do know that there was no such “long-standing policy.” In fact, the policy had been changed something like 48 hours before this incident.
And, from what I hear, there was no evidence that all police officers were informed of this change in policy.

And, strapping suspects into a wagon is itself, a bit dangerous for the police officers.

[Anonymous]

They poisoned him as a child in lead filled housing

And, he got a settlement for it. You do know that the lead has to be ingested? It comes from peeling paint and dust. It is also an indication of poor parenting. You don't let kids put things in their mouths that don't belong there. It is not that hard to paint over peeling paint.

Lead poisoning doesn't come from just being 'in the air".

That does not mean that I don't think the lead paint should not be removed. I do. But, there are things that people can do to protect their kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now get that $6.4 million back from the Gray family.

At least 1/3 went to the lawyers - the bulk of the rest of it has probably already been burned up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a good verdict. It is also appropriate the Gray family got a payout.

Cops did not kill Freddy, Baltimore did.

They poisoned him as a child in lead filled housing. They have police practices that are not working and dangerous.

The cops were only following long standing policies and procedures.

You mean the long-standing policy and procedure that he was to be strapped into the van?

That procedure was about 3 months old. Was only given to staff in writing which is not procedure. Also, supervisors were not enforcing the rule yet.

[Anonymous]

This is pretty simple folks. Suspect died in police custody due to gross negligence. Arresting officers get a pass because they can point to a shitty policy. they just recently decided that strapping someone who is handcuffed in the back of a moving van:vehicle was a good idea. Cops win, another dead black kid with no justice. No one is held accountable. More folks work to find ways to blame the victim and his family for their situation. The cycle continues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is pretty simple folks. Suspect died in police custody due to gross negligence. Arresting officers get a pass because they can point to a shitty policy. they just recently decided that strapping someone who is handcuffed in the back of a moving van:vehicle was a good idea. Cops win, another dead black kid with no justice. No one is held accountable. More folks work to find ways to blame the victim and his family for their situation. The cycle continues.

I forgot to add. "Pro cop" (whatever that means) supporters celebrate the acquittal. Focus is on how wrongly the cops were treated by the DA who intentionally trumped up the charges instead of the one dead person and the negligent policies that resulted in his death. It is this sentiment, this lack of empathy by the majority and non oppressed minorities that I will never fault AAs for rioting or being angry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is pretty simple folks. Suspect died in police custody due to gross negligence. Arresting officers get a pass because they can point to a shitty policy. they just recently decided that strapping someone who is handcuffed in the back of a moving van:vehicle was a good idea. Cops win, another dead black kid with no justice. No one is held accountable. More folks work to find ways to blame the victim and his family for their situation. The cycle continues.

Truth!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is pretty simple folks. Suspect died in police custody due to gross negligence. Arresting officers get a pass because they can point to a shitty policy. they just recently decided that strapping someone who is handcuffed in the back of a moving van:vehicle was a good idea. Cops win, another dead black kid with no justice. No one is held accountable. More folks work to find ways to blame the victim and his family for their situation. The cycle continues.

I forgot to add. "Pro cop" (whatever that means) supporters celebrate the acquittal. Focus is on how wrongly the cops were treated by the DA who intentionally trumped up the charges instead of the one dead person and the negligent policies that resulted in his death. It is this sentiment, this lack of empathy by the majority and non oppressed minorities that I will never fault AAs for rioting or being angry.

Since not one of the cops have been found guilty of anything, it is difficult to argue there was “gross negligence.”
It is a good day when someone who has been wrongly accused of a pretty serious crime is found not guilty. That, my friend, is why people are “celebrating” the acquittal.
Sorry for Freddie’s death.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, what's the theory that he broke his own neck in the police van?

He stood up in a moving van and hit his head when he lost his balance for one . There was video of the ride and it was tame. Even the prosecution expert was unable to identify any aspect of the ride that was "rough."

Police were negligent in not putting on his seat belt. That is why his family rightfully got a large civil settlement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is pretty simple folks. Suspect died in police custody due to gross negligence. Arresting officers get a pass because they can point to a shitty policy. they just recently decided that strapping someone who is handcuffed in the back of a moving van:vehicle was a good idea. Cops win, another dead black kid with no justice. No one is held accountable. More folks work to find ways to blame the victim and his family for their situation. The cycle continues.

I forgot to add. "Pro cop" (whatever that means) supporters celebrate the acquittal. Focus is on how wrongly the cops were treated by the DA who intentionally trumped up the charges instead of the one dead person and the negligent policies that resulted in his death. It is this sentiment, this lack of empathy by the majority and non oppressed minorities that I will never fault AAs for rioting or being angry.

Since not one of the cops have been found guilty of anything, it is difficult to argue there was “gross negligence.”
It is a good day when someone who has been wrongly accused of a pretty serious crime is found not guilty. That, my friend, is why people are “celebrating” the acquittal.
Sorry for Freddie’s death.

I wish innocent black suspects were awarded such justice. Sorry I'm not feeling the love here.

I do not believe the cops were guilty of the crimes so I agree with verdict. Not happy about it though as I know Gray's family did not get justice. Grays death was not a sad mistake. Who pays for that?

If this were your kid or loved one, would you be satisfied with everything that has taken place? Would a $6M check been enough for you make peace with the issue. What would justice look like for YOUR loved one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is pretty simple folks. Suspect died in police custody due to gross negligence. Arresting officers get a pass because they can point to a shitty policy. they just recently decided that strapping someone who is handcuffed in the back of a moving van:vehicle was a good idea. Cops win, another dead black kid with no justice. No one is held accountable. More folks work to find ways to blame the victim and his family for their situation. The cycle continues.

Well said. If it was a young man from NW DC people would be outraged. We value poor black people less and our legal system is proof of that. I hate it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is pretty simple folks. Suspect died in police custody due to gross negligence. Arresting officers get a pass because they can point to a shitty policy. they just recently decided that strapping someone who is handcuffed in the back of a moving van:vehicle was a good idea. Cops win, another dead black kid with no justice. No one is held accountable. More folks work to find ways to blame the victim and his family for their situation. The cycle continues.

I forgot to add. "Pro cop" (whatever that means) supporters celebrate the acquittal. Focus is on how wrongly the cops were treated by the DA who intentionally trumped up the charges instead of the one dead person and the negligent policies that resulted in his death. It is this sentiment, this lack of empathy by the majority and non oppressed minorities that I will never fault AAs for rioting or being angry.

Since not one of the cops have been found guilty of anything, it is difficult to argue there was “gross negligence.”
It is a good day when someone who has been wrongly accused of a pretty serious crime is found not guilty. That, my friend, is why people are “celebrating” the acquittal.
Sorry for Freddie’s death.

I wish innocent black suspects were awarded such justice. Sorry I'm not feeling the love here.

I do not believe the cops were guilty of the crimes so I agree with verdict. Not happy about it though as I know Gray's family did not get justice. Grays death was not a sad mistake. Who pays for that?

If this were your kid or loved one, would you be satisfied with everything that has taken place? Would a $6M check been enough for you make peace with the issue. What would justice look like for YOUR loved one.

Where are you going with this? people die due to the negligence of others all the time, and the remedy is always money, because acting negligently is not criminal. In every case, money does not make up for the death, but we don't send people to jail for negligent acts to make the victim' family feel better.