Freddie Gray case

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is pretty simple folks. Suspect died in police custody due to gross negligence. Arresting officers get a pass because they can point to a shitty policy. they just recently decided that strapping someone who is handcuffed in the back of a moving van:vehicle was a good idea. Cops win, another dead black kid with no justice. No one is held accountable. More folks work to find ways to blame the victim and his family for their situation. The cycle continues.

It is pretty simple. Freddie was a scumbag who tried to injure himself to get a settlement from the cops, and he died in the process. Serves him right. Mankind is better off without such worthless criminals.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-gray-recusal-filing-20150806-story.html

The police detectives who investigated the death of Freddie Gray were told that he had a history of participating in "crash-for-cash" schemes — injuring himself in law enforcement settings to collect settlements — but were advised by a state prosecutor not to pursue the information, according to defense attorneys for the six officers charged in Gray's arrest and death.

The defense attorneys said in a court motion Thursday that Assistant State's Attorney Janice Bledsoe told police investigators working the case in its early stages not to "do the defense attorneys' jobs for them" by pursuing information they had about such schemes and evidence that Gray "intentionally injured himself at the Baltimore City Detention Center."

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Anonymous wrote:This is pretty simple folks. Suspect died in police custody due to gross negligence. Arresting officers get a pass because they can point to a shitty policy. they just recently decided that strapping someone who is handcuffed in the back of a moving van:vehicle was a good idea. Cops win, another dead black kid with no justice. No one is held accountable. More folks work to find ways to blame the victim and his family for their situation. The cycle continues.

I forgot to add. "Pro cop" (whatever that means) supporters celebrate the acquittal. Focus is on how wrongly the cops were treated by the DA who intentionally trumped up the charges instead of the one dead person and the negligent policies that resulted in his death. It is this sentiment, this lack of empathy by the majority and non oppressed minorities that I will never fault AAs for rioting or being angry.

Since not one of the cops have been found guilty of anything, it is difficult to argue there was “gross negligence.”
It is a good day when someone who has been wrongly accused of a pretty serious crime is found not guilty. That, my friend, is why people are “celebrating” the acquittal.
Sorry for Freddie’s death.

I wish innocent black suspects were awarded such justice. Sorry I'm not feeling the love here.

I do not believe the cops were guilty of the crimes so I agree with verdict. Not happy about it though as I know Gray's family did not get justice. Grays death was not a sad mistake. Who pays for that?

If this were your kid or loved one, would you be satisfied with everything that has taken place? Would a $6M check been enough for you make peace with the issue. What would justice look like for YOUR loved one.

Where are you going with this? people die due to the negligence of others all the time, and the remedy is always money, because acting negligently is not criminal. In every case, money does not make up for the death, but we don't send people to jail for negligent acts to make the victim' family feel better.

Never said it did. And remedy certainly isn't always money. Only when it comes to mistreatment of minorities is this true. Do you know how many people get locked up for negligence? It happens every day. Government officials should also be held accountable. Instead they are able to hide behind, in this case, the shield. The same argument could be made for what happened in Flint. Someone needs to get locked up for that. Authorities are given responsibility to protect and serve the public. The get paid by public dollars and receive a public pension. If anything, the standard should be higher for them than civilians.


You never addressed the question. Would a $6M check and an apology note from the force be good enough for your loved one who died from blunt trauma in back of a van? Would you be okay with the officers getting desk duty or losing their jobs as justice for you loved one? What would it be for you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is pretty simple folks. Suspect died in police custody due to gross negligence. Arresting officers get a pass because they can point to a shitty policy. they just recently decided that strapping someone who is handcuffed in the back of a moving van:vehicle was a good idea. Cops win, another dead black kid with no justice. No one is held accountable. More folks work to find ways to blame the victim and his family for their situation. The cycle continues.

I forgot to add. "Pro cop" (whatever that means) supporters celebrate the acquittal. Focus is on how wrongly the cops were treated by the DA who intentionally trumped up the charges instead of the one dead person and the negligent policies that resulted in his death. It is this sentiment, this lack of empathy by the majority and non oppressed minorities that I will never fault AAs for rioting or being angry.

Since not one of the cops have been found guilty of anything, it is difficult to argue there was “gross negligence.”
It is a good day when someone who has been wrongly accused of a pretty serious crime is found not guilty. That, my friend, is why people are “celebrating” the acquittal.
Sorry for Freddie’s death.

I wish innocent black suspects were awarded such justice. Sorry I'm not feeling the love here.

I do not believe the cops were guilty of the crimes so I agree with verdict. Not happy about it though as I know Gray's family did not get justice. Grays death was not a sad mistake. Who pays for that?

If this were your kid or loved one, would you be satisfied with everything that has taken place? Would a $6M check been enough for you make peace with the issue. What would justice look like for YOUR loved one.

Where are you going with this? people die due to the negligence of others all the time, and the remedy is always money, because acting negligently is not criminal. In every case, money does not make up for the death, but we don't send people to jail for negligent acts to make the victim' family feel better.

Never said it did. And remedy certainly isn't always money. Only when it comes to mistreatment of minorities is this true. Do you know how many people get locked up for negligence? It happens every day. Government officials should also be held accountable. Instead they are able to hide behind, in this case, the shield. The same argument could be made for what happened in Flint. Someone needs to get locked up for that. Authorities are given responsibility to protect and serve the public. The get paid by public dollars and receive a public pension. If anything, the standard should be higher for them than civilians.


You never addressed the question. Would a $6M check and an apology note from the force be good enough for your loved one who died from blunt trauma in back of a van? Would you be okay with the officers getting desk duty or losing their jobs as justice for you loved one? What would it be for you?

Just curious.... Do you hold Hillary Clinton to this standard? Do you not think her actions using a private server were negligent?

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Anonymous wrote:This is pretty simple folks. Suspect died in police custody due to gross negligence. Arresting officers get a pass because they can point to a shitty policy. they just recently decided that strapping someone who is handcuffed in the back of a moving van:vehicle was a good idea. Cops win, another dead black kid with no justice. No one is held accountable. More folks work to find ways to blame the victim and his family for their situation. The cycle continues.

I forgot to add. "Pro cop" (whatever that means) supporters celebrate the acquittal. Focus is on how wrongly the cops were treated by the DA who intentionally trumped up the charges instead of the one dead person and the negligent policies that resulted in his death. It is this sentiment, this lack of empathy by the majority and non oppressed minorities that I will never fault AAs for rioting or being angry.

Since not one of the cops have been found guilty of anything, it is difficult to argue there was “gross negligence.”
It is a good day when someone who has been wrongly accused of a pretty serious crime is found not guilty. That, my friend, is why people are “celebrating” the acquittal.
Sorry for Freddie’s death.

I wish innocent black suspects were awarded such justice. Sorry I'm not feeling the love here.

I do not believe the cops were guilty of the crimes so I agree with verdict. Not happy about it though as I know Gray's family did not get justice. Grays death was not a sad mistake. Who pays for that?

If this were your kid or loved one, would you be satisfied with everything that has taken place? Would a $6M check been enough for you make peace with the issue. What would justice look like for YOUR loved one.

Where are you going with this? people die due to the negligence of others all the time, and the remedy is always money, because acting negligently is not criminal. In every case, money does not make up for the death, but we don't send people to jail for negligent acts to make the victim' family feel better.

Never said it did. And remedy certainly isn't always money. Only when it comes to mistreatment of minorities is this true. Do you know how many people get locked up for negligence? It happens every day. Government officials should also be held accountable. Instead they are able to hide behind, in this case, the shield. The same argument could be made for what happened in Flint. Someone needs to get locked up for that. Authorities are given responsibility to protect and serve the public. The get paid by public dollars and receive a public pension. If anything, the standard should be higher for them than civilians.


You never addressed the question. Would a $6M check and an apology note from the force be good enough for your loved one who died from blunt trauma in back of a van? Would you be okay with the officers getting desk duty or losing their jobs as justice for you loved one? What would it be for you?

Just curious.... Do you hold Hillary Clinton to this standard? Do you not think her actions using a private server were negligent?

First- I'm a conservative and I absolutely cannot stand Hillary. Don't trust her for nothing. Second, I would hold Hillary's feet to the fire too if her actions were deemed negligent and it resulted in the death of my loved one or someone else. Rough rides have been an issue and have result in serious injury and compliant by potential suspects in the past. Gray's death was preventable and could have happened to anyone. No one gave a shit.

Still no response to my question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Having a judge decide their fate has, so far, turned out to be a good thing. Judges should be less emotional and more driven by the facts than juries who might use that emotion and personal feelings to ignore the facts and law.

I know this judge personally, and have for decades. He's a great judge.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Having a judge decide their fate has, so far, turned out to be a good thing. Judges should be less emotional and more driven by the facts than juries who might use that emotion and personal feelings to ignore the facts and law.

I know this judge personally, and have for decades. He's a great judge.

As someone that lived in the area for a number of years, and have followed this, I appreciate your sharing that. I really want for justice to be done in a fair and thorough manner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having a judge decide their fate has, so far, turned out to be a good thing. Judges should be less emotional and more driven by the facts than juries who might use that emotion and personal feelings to ignore the facts and law.

I know this judge personally, and have for decades. He's a great judge.

As someone that lived in the area for a number of years, and have followed this, I appreciate your sharing that. I really want for justice to be done in a fair and thorough manner.

Wish those rules worked for everyone

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having a judge decide their fate has, so far, turned out to be a good thing. Judges should be less emotional and more driven by the facts than juries who might use that emotion and personal feelings to ignore the facts and law.

I know this judge personally, and have for decades. He's a great judge.

I am also a Baltimorean and a lawyer. For those paying attention to the evidence, it was the only verdict possible. And if you actually want to know why he ruled the way he di, read the transcript of the verdict. http://www.baltimorecitycourt.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/goodsonruling062316.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having a judge decide their fate has, so far, turned out to be a good thing. Judges should be less emotional and more driven by the facts than juries who might use that emotion and personal feelings to ignore the facts and law.

I know this judge personally, and have for decades. He's a great judge.

As someone that lived in the area for a number of years, and have followed this, I appreciate your sharing that. I really want for justice to be done in a fair and thorough manner.

Wish those rules worked for everyone

PP here.

As do I.