| Those of you voting for NYC or DC clearly don't know what SF is like right now. |
Also, by far, Vegas attracts the worst ppl as visitors from all of these cities.
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Yes the person who wrote that sf is bad because of the rich yuppies who always worked for a dotcom with no rules since age 20 and are more organic than thou is spot on. Theres also an air of intellectual superiority. LA attracts a lot of wannabe tools but more of them don't make it and come down to earth. And there's less intellectual and moral superiority in LA. |
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Lived or Donne prolonged visits in DC, NYC, la, and sf
Sf hands down. It's. The. Worst. |
| SF or Santa Monica |
| I left SF 15 years ago, but judging by my FB feed from my friends that are still there, it gets my vote. It was a pretty amazing place and community of people 20-25 years ago, but man, am I glad I left. |
This makes me so sad. DW is from their and wants to move back for west coast chill vibe -- but I think all the money has killed it. Seattle may have it for now but money is booking there, Portland probably always will but it's got a whole bag of other issues. |
| NY and SF. Tied. |
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I would have guessed LA or SF but I haven't lived in either. I think anywhere with a lot of high income earners is probably spoiled and entitled among those high income earners, at least. (I am one and I know that when I visit less well-off family in Michigan I feel like a spoiled brat for shopping at Whole Foods.)
I find it hard to imagine that Trenton or Newark (another PP's picks) qualify but admittedly I haven't been in either city for close to a decade, so maybe they've improved a lot. I mean sitting in the Newark Amtrak station in 2009, barely able to get the ticket machines to work, and surrounded by vagrants and fellow work-a-day types, I didn't exactly feel like I was in the hub of prosperity and entitlement. It just felt like a normal city. |
| OP here. SF in clear lead now. DC only three clear votes. Can you give examples of some of the behaviors that you witnessed or heard of that are really out there in these cities? |
How about $5,000 a month for a studio apartment in SF? |
| Dear Lord! 5K for a studio? We have nothing on SF. |
| San Francisco. I have long time family there (grandma was born there, great-grandma lived there since she was a young child and great-great grandparents moved there as adults from the midwest) and so I visited there a lot as a child ... The last time I went was in 2002 when I graduated high school, then again in 2010 and 2014 to visit other friends and the difference between the late 90s and today is absolutely insane. I would not live there now period. Even if I could afford it it's just not the kind of place I would live. It's all the worst aspects of gentrification that people complain about all rolled up into one little compact city. NYC is absolutely fine and average in comparison. |
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Although DC is so subpar compared to NY and San Fran, I will still vote for it. Just on a level of sheer obliviousness and out of whack sense of self.
It's such an uninventive, regressive city, in terms of creative culture. And yet it still fancies itself to be world class. It makes an for an interesting mix of entitlement without actually contributing anything. |
| LA is huge. Which part of LA? Hollywood Hills? Brentwood? Santa Monica? The Valley? South Bay? |