Trump and Anti-Semitism

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yawn. Democrats refuse to disavow our denounce their crazy supporters. Yet for some reason "guilt by association" doesn't apply to them.

This is more than guilt by association. Trump was actually asked to condemn anti-Semitic attacks on reporters and refused to do so. It took multiple tries for him to denounce David Duke's support. These are things that should be automatic and not complicated to do.

Like not calling cops stupid or some such? (Sorry, to lazy to recall other shining examples.)

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yawn. Democrats refuse to disavow our denounce their crazy supporters. Yet for some reason "guilt by association" doesn't apply to them.

This is more than guilt by association. Trump was actually asked to condemn anti-Semitic attacks on reporters and refused to do so. It took multiple tries for him to denounce David Duke's support. These are things that should be automatic and not complicated to do.

Like not calling cops stupid or some such? (Sorry, to lazy to recall other shining examples.)

I have no idea to what you are referring. But, I note that like other Trump supporters you show no indication that the anti-Semites supporting Trump are a problem for you.

[Anonymous]

Denouncing something is simply a gesture. So what?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Denouncing something is simply a gesture. So what?

Because a failure to denounce is viewed as acceptance. It is really not hard to say that you condemn anti-Semitic attacks. It is telling that no Trump supporter here will do so.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Denouncing something is simply a gesture. So what?

Because a failure to denounce is viewed as acceptance. It is really not hard to say that you condemn anti-Semitic attacks. It is telling that no Trump supporter here will do so.

Obama ran in some circles where there was a lot of antisemitism(or so people say). When the right shouted for him to denounce these people he did not. You have been called antsemitic on this board. Should Bernie or Clinton denounce you? The problem with spinning your opponent into a monster is when the lights come on and he is a rational person, you lose credibility. Trump has a long history in NY. He has never been call antisemitic.

Bernie has not really denounced the voilence in Nv or the Bernie bros, do you hold him to the same standards as Trump? Don't take this the wrong way...but you need to take a break for politicals...just turn of the TV, do not read the blogs, etc for the weekend. Everyone will be fighting about the same stuff on Monday and nothing will have changed.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Denouncing something is simply a gesture. So what?

Because a failure to denounce is viewed as acceptance. It is really not hard to say that you condemn anti-Semitic attacks. It is telling that no Trump supporter here will do so.

Obama ran in some circles where there was a lot of antisemitism(or so people say). When the right shouted for him to denounce these people he did not. You have been called antsemitic on this board. Should Bernie or Clinton denounce you? The problem with spinning your opponent into a monster is when the lights come on and he is a rational person, you lose credibility. Trump has a long history in NY. He has never been call antisemitic.

Bernie has not really denounced the voilence in Nv or the Bernie bros, do you hold him to the same standards as Trump? Don't take this the wrong way...but you need to take a break for politicals...just turn of the TV, do not read the blogs, etc for the weekend. Everyone will be fighting about the same stuff on Monday and nothing will have changed.

I have been called an anti-Semitic and also attacked for being Jewish. I am not Jewish and I would argue that I am also not anti-Semitic. You are comparing accusations of anti-Semitism to actual acts of anti-Semitism. However, if I made a documented anti-Semitic attack on anyone, I would expect it to be denounced by anyone to whom it mattered. Sanders has no idea who I am, but if he was asked to denounced a documented anti-Semitic attack by me, I would expect him to denounce it as a matter of course.

Indeed Obama condemned anti-Semites that announced support for him. Sanders has denounced violence and disassociated himself from it. It is funny that you bring up violence at political events given how Trump has encouraged exactly that.

It is simply amazing that every Trump supporter in this thread has failed to criticize even in the slightest terms the blatant anti-Semitism that has been displayed on multiple occasions by Trump supporters. Like Donald and Melania Trump who seem comfortable with such supporters. you do as well. This is very disturbing.

[Anonymous]

Bad people should indeed go to hell. But let's not single out only one group of them. Every politician should in fact denounce ALL of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TRUMP IS HITLER!!! is the Democrat version of OBAMA IS A MUSLIM COMMUNIST.

It is a stupid, untrue, and makes the other side ignore you.

Gee, it was Mrs. Trump who said her husband is not Hitler. And his daughter who said he's not a groper.

[Anonymous]

Trump is an opportunist.
If it benefits him to go to AIPAC and sing Israels praises, he will do that

I do not believe him to be anti-semitic at all. It is not personal to him, just business

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump is an opportunist.
If it benefits him to go to AIPAC and sing Israels praises, he will do that

I do not believe him to be anti-semitic at all. It is not personal to him, just business

Nobody is claiming he is anti-Semitic. The original post is simply pointing out rampant anti-Semitism among some of his supporters. The original post is asking if this bothers any Trump supporters here. And the answer appears to be no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump has been around Jews his entire life. He grew up around them and has done business with them throughout his career. I would think he's indifferent to them but happily traffics in anti-Semitism if it gets him where he wants to be.

This is about right. He won't go out of his way to hurt the Jews, but he sure doesn't care if we are collateral damage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump has been around Jews his entire life. He grew up around them and has done business with them throughout his career. I would think he's indifferent to them but happily traffics in anti-Semitism if it gets him where he wants to be.

This is about right. He won't go out of his way to hurt the Jews, but he sure doesn't care if we are collateral damage.

This states it completely.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Denouncing something is simply a gesture. So what?

Because a failure to denounce is viewed as acceptance. It is really not hard to say that you condemn anti-Semitic attacks. It is telling that no Trump supporter here will do so.

I see it as indifference i.e. Not even worth my time. If something is stupid, best to ignore it rather than negativity reinforce it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump has been around Jews his entire life. He grew up around them and has done business with them throughout his career. I would think he's indifferent to them but happily traffics in anti-Semitism if it gets him where he wants to be.

This is about right. He won't go out of his way to hurt the Jews, but he sure doesn't care if we are collateral damage.

This states it completely.

His campaign is built on resentment and anger. Anything that releases more resentment and anger out to the world helps him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Denouncing something is simply a gesture. So what?

Because a failure to denounce is viewed as acceptance. It is really not hard to say that you condemn anti-Semitic attacks. It is telling that no Trump supporter here will do so.

I see it as indifference i.e. Not even worth my time. If something is stupid, best to ignore it rather than negativity reinforce it

Wow. This attitude scares me.