Application Middle School

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's far from upper NW, but there are metros and buses. And from the Hill, it's great: a 20-minute direct bus ride from Brent; probably an equal or easier commute than Latin, Basis, or Hardy. I would definitely consider it if my kid got in, and would love for it to have a curriculum aligned in a way that helped kids prepare for the Banneker/SWW/McKinley Tech application process.

Why would DCPS care about the Hill? They gave a ton of money to SH already (and it offers walk-on "honors" classes) and expect everyone else to go to underenrolled EH. It would be a third siphon besides Latin and BASIS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's far from upper NW, but there are metros and buses. And from the Hill, it's great: a 20-minute direct bus ride from Brent; probably an equal or easier commute than Latin, Basis, or Hardy. I would definitely consider it if my kid got in, and would love for it to have a curriculum aligned in a way that helped kids prepare for the Banneker/SWW/McKinley Tech application process.

Why would DCPS care about the Hill? They gave a ton of money to SH already (and it offers walk-on "honors" classes) and expect everyone else to go to underenrolled EH. It would be a third siphon besides Latin and BASIS.

This is such a foolish line of reasoning. Are you suggesting it should be even harder to access for EOTR? Placing in in Ward 7 instead of WOTR would provide some balance and serve the pockets of advanced students EOTR.

Stuart Hobson is one of 3 schools and it offers minimal spots via lottery. The OOB population enters in early ES and stays. DCPS wastes money all over the place, but far less in Wards 7 & 8 where this would be located.

[Anonymous]

Things like this should be in Wards 7,8,4 and/or 5 - which are underserved by DCPS to a far greater degree than Ward 6 - and proximity to transit should be a criteria for any city-wide option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Things like this should be in Wards 7,8,4 and/or 5 - which are underserved by DCPS to a far greater degree than Ward 6 - and proximity to transit should be a criteria for any city-wide option.

Which is why Winston is a good location for it--east of the river, half a mile from the metro, and on the 36 bus route.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Things like this should be in Wards 7,8,4 and/or 5 - which are underserved by DCPS to a far greater degree than Ward 6 - and proximity to transit should be a criteria for any city-wide option.

I know it is too late, but DCPS really should have made Brookland or McKinley MS the test-in school. They are both within two or three blocks from subway stations and kids could access them more quickly from all points in the city. But alas, DCPS did not think it through.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Things like this should be in Wards 7,8,4 and/or 5 - which are underserved by DCPS to a far greater degree than Ward 6 - and proximity to transit should be a criteria for any city-wide option.

I know it is too late, but DCPS really should have made Brookland or McKinley MS the test-in school. They are both within two or three blocks from subway stations and kids could access them more quickly from all points in the city. But alas, DCPS did not think it through.

Sure they did. They don't really want to do a test-in middle school. This has been being 'discussed' for 2+ years now and is no closer to coming to fruition, meanwhile they accelerated MacFarland, opened Brookland and put Ron Brown High school on a fast track.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Things like this should be in Wards 7,8,4 and/or 5 - which are underserved by DCPS to a far greater degree than Ward 6 - and proximity to transit should be a criteria for any city-wide option.

Which is why Winston is a good location for it--east of the river, half a mile from the metro, and on the 36 bus route.

Let's face it -- there aren't enough advanced DCPS students in Wards 5, 7, 8 to not be dependent on Ward 6 and beyond. Only 1/4 Ward 5, 7 & 8 DCPS MS students are proficient in ELA and half that for math. A statistically insignificant number are advanced in either and can be counted on a single hand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Things like this should be in Wards 7,8,4 and/or 5 - which are underserved by DCPS to a far greater degree than Ward 6 - and proximity to transit should be a criteria for any city-wide option.

Which is why Winston is a good location for it--east of the river, half a mile from the metro, and on the 36 bus route.

Let's face it -- there aren't enough advanced DCPS students in Wards 5, 7, 8 to not be dependent on Ward 6 and beyond. Only 1/4 Ward 5, 7 & 8 DCPS MS students are proficient in ELA and half that for math. A statistically insignificant number are advanced in either and can be counted on a single hand.

Expand the universe to students who get 4s and 5s at KIPP or DC Prep. That's who DCPS would really be trying to get into this test-in school, assuming it's in Ward 7/8.

They want to show they too can close the achievement gap -- which means attracting some/more minority students back from the charters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Things like this should be in Wards 7,8,4 and/or 5 - which are underserved by DCPS to a far greater degree than Ward 6 - and proximity to transit should be a criteria for any city-wide option.

Which is why Winston is a good location for it--east of the river, half a mile from the metro, and on the 36 bus route.

Let's face it -- there aren't enough advanced DCPS students in Wards 5, 7, 8 to not be dependent on Ward 6 and beyond. Only 1/4 Ward 5, 7 & 8 DCPS MS students are proficient in ELA and half that for math. A statistically insignificant number are advanced in either and can be counted on a single hand.

Expand the universe to students who get 4s and 5s at KIPP or DC Prep. That's who DCPS would really be trying to get into this test-in school, assuming it's in Ward 7/8.

They want to show they too can close the achievement gap -- which means attracting some/more minority students back from the charters.

why would those students leave DC Prep or Kipp?

[Anonymous]

Arts programming, foreign languages, international trips, more sports, less militaristic atmosphere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Things like this should be in Wards 7,8,4 and/or 5 - which are underserved by DCPS to a far greater degree than Ward 6 - and proximity to transit should be a criteria for any city-wide option.

Which is why Winston is a good location for it--east of the river, half a mile from the metro, and on the 36 bus route.

Let's face it -- there aren't enough advanced DCPS students in Wards 5, 7, 8 to not be dependent on Ward 6 and beyond. Only 1/4 Ward 5, 7 & 8 DCPS MS students are proficient in ELA and half that for math. A statistically insignificant number are advanced in either and can be counted on a single hand.

Expand the universe to students who get 4s and 5s at KIPP or DC Prep. That's who DCPS would really be trying to get into this test-in school, assuming it's in Ward 7/8.

They want to show they too can close the achievement gap -- which means attracting some/more minority students back from the charters.

why would those students leave DC Prep or Kipp?

DC Prep and KIPP. Note that most of the advanced students come from DC Prep Edgewood and the overall performance is the only one that's really eye opening

300 students proficient and 22 advanced in Math out of 876 valid tests
250 students proficient and 23 advanced in ELA out of 876 valid tests

I don't see why a student at a high performing charter would necessarily be interested in an application school unless it offered something genuinely more rigorous than what is currently available. The test results for KIPP and DC PREP are comparatively impressive vs. DCPS in Wards 5, 7, & 8 but the overall numbers of advanced students would not fill a school. Or provide much diversity

[Anonymous]

"Test in" at at DCPS middle school would work a lot like the process at SWW -- meaning that there would be discretion (teacher recommendations/family interviews) and the scores on whatever test given aren't going to be the only factor.

[Anonymous]

They could do a model like UT's where the top x% of kids from each dcps are guaranteed admission (this also creates an incentive for smart kids to stay in small/poorly-performing elementaries through 5th) and additional slots are filled by kids who score the highest points on some combination of test scores and teacher recommendations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Things like this should be in Wards 7,8,4 and/or 5 - which are underserved by DCPS to a far greater degree than Ward 6 - and proximity to transit should be a criteria for any city-wide option.

I know it is too late, but DCPS really should have made Brookland or McKinley MS the test-in school. They are both within two or three blocks from subway stations and kids could access them more quickly from all points in the city. But alas, DCPS did not think it through.

Sure they did. They don't really want to do a test-in middle school. This has been being 'discussed' for 2+ years now and is no closer to coming to fruition, meanwhile they accelerated MacFarland, opened Brookland and put Ron Brown High school on a fast track.

At one point they were talking about a test-in or app-based track to McKinley Middle but somehow it got killed. I don't understand it as it would have been a perfect Reese for McKinley tech Hugh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Things like this should be in Wards 7,8,4 and/or 5 - which are underserved by DCPS to a far greater degree than Ward 6 - and proximity to transit should be a criteria for any city-wide option.

Which is why Winston is a good location for it--east of the river, half a mile from the metro, and on the 36 bus route.

Let's face it -- there aren't enough advanced DCPS students in Wards 5, 7, 8 to not be dependent on Ward 6 and beyond. Only 1/4 Ward 5, 7 & 8 DCPS MS students are proficient in ELA and half that for math. A statistically insignificant number are advanced in either and can be counted on a single hand.

Expand the universe to students who get 4s and 5s at KIPP or DC Prep. That's who DCPS would really be trying to get into this test-in school, assuming it's in Ward 7/8.

They want to show they too can close the achievement gap -- which means attracting some/more minority students back from the charters.

This. They need to do this to get those kids back from charter elementary schools.