Jackson/Oakton -- non-AAP experience and overcrowding?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where can I find information about this? Any link?? Thanks!

Anonymous wrote:The CIP clearly notes the move of MWES and OES kids from Jackson to Thoreau. It's proposed for 2017 school year. So NEXT school year, not the one coming up.

Look at pages 41, 45 and 51 of the latest CIP:

http://www.fcps.edu/fts/planning/cip/cipbookfy2017-21.pdf

Note that the School Board would still need to vote on this before it took effect and, depending on the number of students involved, there might need to be a formal boundary study. In any event, FCPS Staff has not suggested it would occur before the fall of 2018. Only the planning (or "scoping") for a change is proposed to start in the 2017-18 school year.

Thank you.

Dr. Garza stated at a recent work session that the only big boundary changes coming up in 2017 centered on the Route 1 corridor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is from my DD, who is an AAP 8th grader at Jackson. In the electives and PE, she intermingles with the non-AAP kids. At Jackson, there really are two schools: AAP and Non-AAP. Non-app kids (according to my daughter) are rougher; drug use is prevalent.

My DD was sexually harassed last year in an elective; she did not complain at the time, but fell in to a deep depression.

The drug use among the rich Madison and Oakton AAP kids at Jackson and in HS is higher than in the non-AAP population, most of whom go to Falls Church. Sorry if your daughter was harassed, but you are also spreading misinformation here.

+1
I love how the PP uses a blanket statement to smear all non-AAP kids.

[Anonymous]

Wow, just wonder how much chance this could get approved...?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where can I find information about this? Any link?? Thanks!

Anonymous wrote:The CIP clearly notes the move of MWES and OES kids from Jackson to Thoreau. It's proposed for 2017 school year. So NEXT school year, not the one coming up.

Look at pages 41, 45 and 51 of the latest CIP:

http://www.fcps.edu/fts/planning/cip/cipbookfy2017-21.pdf

Note that the School Board would still need to vote on this before it took effect and, depending on the number of students involved, there might need to be a formal boundary study. In any event, FCPS Staff has not suggested it would occur before the fall of 2018. Only the planning (or "scoping") for a change is proposed to start in the 2017-18 school year.

[Anonymous]

Please read the latest CIP. Page 45 clearly states ALL MWES and OES kids who go to OHS will move to Thoreau!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow, just wonder how much chance this could get approved...?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where can I find information about this? Any link?? Thanks!

Anonymous wrote:The CIP clearly notes the move of MWES and OES kids from Jackson to Thoreau. It's proposed for 2017 school year. So NEXT school year, not the one coming up.

Look at pages 41, 45 and 51 of the latest CIP:

http://www.fcps.edu/fts/planning/cip/cipbookfy2017-21.pdf

Note that the School Board would still need to vote on this before it took effect and, depending on the number of students involved, there might need to be a formal boundary study. In any event, FCPS Staff has not suggested it would occur before the fall of 2018. Only the planning (or "scoping") for a change is proposed to start in the 2017-18 school year.

I'm saying this move takes place when Thoreau is completed. It's mentioned on page 45 along with the other shift of students. It's not a large boundary shift. It's 2 schools! It makes sense!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please read the latest CIP. Page 45 clearly states ALL MWES and OES kids who go to OHS will move to Thoreau!

You don't know how to read the CIP. It says that all the boundary changes discussed in the CIP are potential changes that have not yet been decided upon. When it comes to moving Oakton kids out of Jackson to Thoreau, the School Board will look at several factors, including whether there will be capacity at Thoreau and how it might drive up the FARMS rate at Jackson. It is not a sure thing by any stretch at this point.

[Anonymous]

Please provide a link or page that states what you say. In fact, page 45 clearly states what I wrote. I suggest you reread the page. I highly doubt the the school board will continue this trend of reverse bussing to inflate numbers. Truth be told, children should be kept together with their cohorts. Especially middle schoolers even if it means numbers changing!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please provide a link or page that states what you say.

Link:
http://www.fcps.edu/fts/planning/cip/cipbookfy2017-21.pdf

Page 4

Recommended boundary adjustment options and
program changes are included in the CIP for future
consideration only. Any option chosen for potential
implementation will be discussed and decided through
a transparent process that engages the community, in
accordance with School Board Policy and Regulations.
This includes adjustments needed for Advanced
Academic Program centers at existing facilities and
newly identified site locations.

Important Note
The FCPS FY 2017-21 Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) is a planning and fiscal management
tool used to coordinate the location, timing, and financing of projects over a five-year
period. The CIP includes the proposed capital improvement projects, a year-by-year
schedule of anticipated spending, and actual and estimated costs. The CIP is a working
document which is updated annually to reflect changing conditions within our schools and
communities. Additionally, it offers a broader planning schedule in order to focus staff
efforts and community conversations. FCPS faces significant capacity challenges which will
require strategic decisions about boundaries, capacity enhancements, new schools, and
programmatic changes. Parallel work is also underway to design a new, more systematic
approach to future decision-making processes that impact facilities planning.

[Anonymous]

^^this I've read. It was the FARMS that I was actually questioning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please read the latest CIP. Page 45 clearly states ALL MWES and OES kids who go to OHS will move to Thoreau!

The CIP is a planning document and the student enrollment projections outlined in the December 2015 (latest version) of the CIP are to be updated by the new student population projection software. In short, Facilities already made adjustments to enrollment projections (as noted in the CIP) and the next round are to come shortly. (See FPAC meeting minutes from March 1 -- http://www.fcps.edu/fts/planning/fpac/meetingminutes/3-1-2016.pdf )

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^this I've read. It was the FARMS that I was actually questioning.

It is my understanding that the new student population projection software incorporates decision analysis options, incorporating a number of demographic elements, including FARMS.

[Anonymous]

I read this and don't understand how it pertains to this thread. There is no mention of Thoreau. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^this I've read. It was the FARMS that I was actually questioning.

It is my understanding that the new student population projection software incorporates decision analysis options, incorporating a number of demographic elements, including FARMS.

How do you know this? Please provide a link. If this is fact, then in fact, we are reverse busing to put white higher SES kids into a school that is not in their pyramid. Wow! Just wow!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I read this and don't understand how it pertains to this thread. There is no mention of Thoreau. Thank you.

The CIP has sections that are updated annually to reflect changing conditions in FCPS enrollment and facility use. Every Region is listed, along with a listing of schools in each region, with commentary about some options that may be considered to address projected (7 years out) capacity issues.

See the CIP here:
http://www.fcps.edu/fts/planning/cip/cipbookfy2017-21.pdf

The Region Summaries begin on page 42.

Thoreau's possible options are listed on page 45.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^this I've read. It was the FARMS that I was actually questioning.

It is my understanding that the new student population projection software incorporates decision analysis options, incorporating a number of demographic elements, including FARMS.

How do you know this? Please provide a link. If this is fact, then in fact, we are reverse busing to put white higher SES kids into a school that is not in their pyramid. Wow! Just wow!

Facilities has provided several presentations to the School Board about their new student population projection software.