Kayla Meuller was repeatedly raped by ISIS leader

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know one of the lawyers who directly worked so tirelessly to free the savage from Guantanamo.

You think she's still pleased with her "success"?

OR... maybe being locked away in Guantanamo is one of the factors that helped lead him to become the insane, evil radical he is?

This is a pattern I have read about other Islamic radicals- even if they are not so extreme when they enter prison, the conditions they endure solidifies their violent views.

The foundation for their rage is laid in childhood.

WTF? We CREATED this entire nightmare. We invaded Iraq, removed all the Baathists, left a power vacuum, supported Malicki who is a huge sectarian scumball, and basically everything we did laid the groundwork for ISIS. If Al Baghdadi had been dead or imprisoned, some other psycho would be doing all of this instead. Don't you know ISIS is recruiting all the time?
Didn't you read the NYT link?

This is OUR fault, and not for letting people out of Guantanamo. Torturing people and putting people in Guantanamo was just shitting on our own values as Americans, which is basically the icing on the cake in this whole situation.

Please go read the NYT link.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know one of the lawyers who directly worked so tirelessly to free the savage from Guantanamo.

You think she's still pleased with her "success"?

OR... maybe being locked away in Guantanamo is one of the factors that helped lead him to become the insane, evil radical he is?

This is a pattern I have read about other Islamic radicals- even if they are not so extreme when they enter prison, the conditions they endure solidifies their violent views.

Of course. It's ALWAYS our fault

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know one of the lawyers who directly worked so tirelessly to free the savage from Guantanamo.

You think she's still pleased with her "success"?

I'm all for charging alleged terrorists and giving them a trial, and if convicted, swiftly punishing them. That would be great.

But I find it deeply disturbing that you have such little understanding of why 'Guantanamo' exists in the first place. You can't have much respect for justice if you support such a concept. As an American, that precedent is pretty damn disturbing.

Prisoners of war. Different rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know one of the lawyers who directly worked so tirelessly to free the savage from Guantanamo.

You think she's still pleased with her "success"?

OR... maybe being locked away in Guantanamo is one of the factors that helped lead him to become the insane, evil radical he is?

This is a pattern I have read about other Islamic radicals- even if they are not so extreme when they enter prison, the conditions they endure solidifies their violent views.

Of course. It's ALWAYS our fault

Isis did not exist before the Iraq war. It was invented becaus of the war.

And for the second time he was not locked up in gizmo. He was briefly detained by the army in Iraq and released in 2004.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know one of the lawyers who directly worked so tirelessly to free the savage from Guantanamo.

You think she's still pleased with her "success"?

OR... maybe being locked away in Guantanamo is one of the factors that helped lead him to become the insane, evil radical he is?

This is a pattern I have read about other Islamic radicals- even if they are not so extreme when they enter prison, the conditions they endure solidifies their violent views.

The foundation for their rage is laid in childhood.

WTF? We CREATED this entire nightmare. We invaded Iraq, removed all the Baathists, left a power vacuum, supported Malicki who is a huge sectarian scumball, and basically everything we did laid the groundwork for ISIS. If Al Baghdadi had been dead or imprisoned, some other psycho would be doing all of this instead. Don't you know ISIS is recruiting all the time?
Didn't you read the NYT link?

This is OUR fault, and not for letting people out of Guantanamo. Torturing people and putting people in Guantanamo was just shitting on our own values as Americans, which is basically the icing on the cake in this whole situation.

Please go read the NYT link.

I don't know where those ISIS fighters are getting their information...b/c the Quran certainly does not condone the rape of anyone, regardless of their religion...poor brainwashed little bastards

Also I have to agree with the above poster, Iraq was MUCH more stable when Sadam was in power than it is now with ISIS. At least thats my opinion as someone that was born in Baghdad and raised there. You wouldn't believe the stories we hear of what's going on, from family that is still living in that nightmare. You will never see that stuff in the news..

Sadam was a bad guy, but he calmed down a long time ago and was never a threat when we invaded...but the war was all about gaining access to the oil fields anyways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi is the animal who raped her - he spent time in Guantanamo. So much for that prison holding a bunch of sheepherders

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/14/isis-leader-see-you-in-new-york.html

http://abcnews.go.com/International/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-sexually-abused/story?id=33085923

Uh, hate to burst your bubble and the entire premise of your post, but he was not in Gitmo. He was detained in Iraq and released in 2004.

Forgive me. Obama shut down that camp in Iraq - he was not exactly a prisoner of another country - he was our prisoner of war.

[Anonymous]

I don't even feel bad...maybe b.c I know this is the truth of war and rape is 100% expected. If you don't think so go catch up on your history. Hell...5 american soldiers gangraped a 14 year old Iraqi girl and killed her. I'd say thats even worse, but maybe thats because I don't like pedophiles...especially ones in uniform.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi is the animal who raped her - he spent time in Guantanamo. So much for that prison holding a bunch of sheepherders

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/14/isis-leader-see-you-in-new-york.html

http://abcnews.go.com/International/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-sexually-abused/story?id=33085923

Uh, hate to burst your bubble and the entire premise of your post, but he was not in Gitmo. He was detained in Iraq and released in 2004.

Forgive me. Obama shut down that camp in Iraq - he was not exactly a prisoner of another country - he was our prisoner of war.

But still no relation to Gauntanamo?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know one of the lawyers who directly worked so tirelessly to free the savage from Guantanamo.

You think she's still pleased with her "success"?

OR... maybe being locked away in Guantanamo is one of the factors that helped lead him to become the insane, evil radical he is?

This is a pattern I have read about other Islamic radicals- even if they are not so extreme when they enter prison, the conditions they endure solidifies their violent views.

Of course. It's ALWAYS our fault

Isis did not exist before the Iraq war. It was invented becaus of the war.

And for the second time he was not locked up in gizmo. He was briefly detained by the army in Iraq and released in 2004.

There is dispute about the date. 2009 is more likely as boots on the ground place it there. Obama created ISIS by arming the 'moderate' Syrian rebels and thus putting weapons right in the hands of ISIS:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/05/19/new_documents_cia__state_dept_knew_weapons_were_moving_from_benghazi_libya_to_isis_in_syria_via_turkey.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi is the animal who raped her - he spent time in Guantanamo. So much for that prison holding a bunch of sheepherders

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/14/isis-leader-see-you-in-new-york.html

http://abcnews.go.com/International/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-sexually-abused/story?id=33085923

Uh, hate to burst your bubble and the entire premise of your post, but he was not in Gitmo. He was detained in Iraq and released in 2004.

Forgive me. Obama shut down that camp in Iraq - he was not exactly a prisoner of another country - he was our prisoner of war.

But still no relation to Gauntanamo?

Doesn't matter. There are still plenty like him in Guantanamo that were released or will be released to do more damage. In fact, they already have:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/06/us-usa-guantanamo-recidivism-idUSTRE82501120120306

So it's probably a good idea to release more

[Anonymous]

Thank you, Jeff. I know I don’t always disagree with you, but I see that you can tell when someone has gone over the line.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you, Jeff. I know I don’t always disagree with you, but I see that you can tell when someone has gone over the line.

Meant to say... “I don’t always agree with you.” I guess, “I don’t always disagree with you” is saying the same thing.

[Anonymous]

what was over the line...I can't find anything from jeff

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are truly no words to describe these murderous, scum-of-the-earth, brutal monsters.

I cannot think of words bad enough to describe them.

And yet two Americans were arrested as they were on their way to join ISIS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know one of the lawyers who directly worked so tirelessly to free the savage from Guantanamo.

You think she's still pleased with her "success"?

OR... maybe being locked away in Guantanamo is one of the factors that helped lead him to become the insane, evil radical he is?

This is a pattern I have read about other Islamic radicals- even if they are not so extreme when they enter prison, the conditions they endure solidifies their violent views.

The foundation for their rage is laid in childhood.

WTF? We CREATED this entire nightmare. We invaded Iraq, removed all the Baathists, left a power vacuum, supported Malicki who is a huge sectarian scumball, and basically everything we did laid the groundwork for ISIS. If Al Baghdadi had been dead or imprisoned, some other psycho would be doing all of this instead. Don't you know ISIS is recruiting all the time?
Didn't you read the NYT link?

This is OUR fault, and not for letting people out of Guantanamo. Torturing people and putting people in Guantanamo was just shitting on our own values as Americans, which is basically the icing on the cake in this whole situation.

Please go read the NYT link.

I don't know where those ISIS fighters are getting their information...b/c the Quran certainly does not condone the rape of anyone, regardless of their religion...poor brainwashed little bastards

Also I have to agree with the above poster, Iraq was MUCH more stable when Sadam was in power than it is now with ISIS. At least thats my opinion as someone that was born in Baghdad and raised there. You wouldn't believe the stories we hear of what's going on, from family that is still living in that nightmare. You will never see that stuff in the news..

Sadam was a bad guy, but he calmed down a long time ago and was never a threat when we invaded...but the war was all about gaining access to the oil fields anyways.

Quran and rape? No. But do some reading about how the Quran, while it has positives about women also subjugates them.

Tabari IX:113 "Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur'an."

Quran 4.34 Scourge (whip) your wife if she does not obey.