I'm a PP and I apologize if I misread your OP; is she uninterested in you or outright rude? |
Okay, I am giving you the benefit of the doubt because it does sort of sound like you are jealous. But here goes:
She sounds like the kind of woman that a girl just knows is not a girl's girl. She probably gives off a vibe that makes you just not quite trust her. She doesn't understand "girl code" at all. I think that Angelina Jolie is this type of woman. She is strikingly beautiful, but has no interest in being friends with other women. Women can tell immediately that she doesn't play by the same rules that most of us follow. Men don't see it and think she is great. Be happy for your friend. Try to find common ground when you can, but don't worry about it too much. It's okay not to like everyone you have to deal with. |
I think your description of the rift (I appreciate the context, but I don't think its pertinent based on your question about her), saying that you have gotten to know them but not by your own choice, saying she is pretty in an over the top way- those comments in particular jumped out as showing you may have a chip on your shoulder about the whole situation. I apologize if I misread you! |
I understand that you might have nothing in common with this person, in which case you should stay courteous and polite when you get together. Time will tell whether you become closer or not. You don't have to become best friends right away, you know. Don't worry about it and let her make herself comfortable in your circle on her own time. As a foreigner in this country, I don't really like the way you portrayed things by gender and by nationality. That has really nothing to do with it. There are some men and women I can't really seem to get along with, and thankfully more men and women of various cultures with whom I do get along with. |
I have a close friend who married a man my husband doesn't like that much (and to be fair, neither do I). We negotiated that he is willing to hang out as couples once per quarter and other than that, I see her without our husbands. It works well. I try to aim for slightly less than quarterly.
You didn't mention what your husband thinks of the fiancée, though. That would be interesting to find out. |
I'm sure that the old friend is "handling" his strikingly pretty fiancee plenty. |
I fully understand where OP is coming from having been forced to deal with a similar situation. It has nothing to do with jealousy. It has to do with the woman's behavior.
They cozy up to men quick. They will address the men like you are invisible. They will pretend to be helpless, needy, clingy. They will interact with the wife but if any man enters the room, her full attention shifts. She will bubble over if her husband is around too. When you're alone with them they are your best friend. A man appears and the flip is stunning. My advice is keep the friendship at bay and limit your time with them as a couple. |
Wow I didn't get all that from OP. Maybe this is why women come on here and complain they don't have friends. Nothing the OP says indicates the woman doesn't deserve the chance to be a friend only that OP has a reluctance to make the attempt. The problem is OP not the other one. |
No doubt there are women like this, but his is not at all the woman OP described. |
Eh, I don't know. Some women - and I think this is common in Eastern European cultures - value men more than women. So their focus will be more on the women that the men. It can be very annoying to be in the room with that dynamic. If the men are discussing politics and the women Martha Stewart, then yeah, I can see your point. But in this area, "womens conversation " is generally diverse and intellectual, not just trading recipes. |
GREEN WITH ENVY. Get over it. Your husband probably cannot afford alimony and a similar model. |
You might find that socializing with her perks up DH and that's a good thing! |
My advice is to fake it. I was in a similar situation years ago. My husbands best friend/college roommate divorced and remarried. Even though it had been about 6 years since divorce it was hard for me to love the new woman. I realized it had nothing to do with her...nothing...it was all me and my grief over the foursome of yester-years that I missed. Once I admitted that to myself I just pretended to like her for a year or two. Would just smile, make conversation, and listen to her answers graciously. Then one day I realized I actually didn't mind her and years later I really like her. It was just her position in my life that I had a hard time with. I don't think it really has anything to do with this woman OP or her culture its just the situation she is entering through. |
I'd be honest with my husband and talk out over with him,how you feel when you go out with them etc. Maybe go every 2nd or 3rd time and be busy or sick the other times. Life is too short to spend it with someone who doesn't want to be around me. |
I am a woman from Eastern Europe and I find it hard to bond with American women. The only female friends I have are also from Eastern Europe. In social situations I too gravitate to male conversation circle as it makes me feel less awkward. I do believe this is cultural. She very well may want to be friends with you but doesnt know how to approach. It is a lot easier to hide behind your wits, Russians do take time to warm up to other people. |