
not that I at all agree with this line of reasoning, but I have heard the slippery slope argument. The one about people then wanting to marry their dog or some such nonsense.
"Dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!" |
Actually that was the point of this thread...to get your jollies off by using the word bigot, homophobe, and whatever else. That is why OP is a troll and you are too if you are not OP. That's also why no one is answering the question, you are too transparent and it's really not worth it. Go troll somewhere else. |
HA! Not OP, but you are really hilarious. It's embarrassing for you really. |
I truly hope this is a joke. Kinda in the lined of the farce thread, right??? Your pregnancy rate is and will be zero because you CAN'T procreate!!!! If you decide to have a child yyou'll have to pay someone to impregnate you and the child will never be truly your partner's child. You know that, right? DNA stuff I you know what I mean... Now, regarding STIs, the problem is more of "logistics" since the way lesbians have "intercourse" (haha) is not how naure designed it so there's no friction between a male and female genitalia so the chances of getting infected are diminished. That's funny. It's kinda bragging about not being at risk for prostate cancer being a woman. LOL it doesn't make sense at all LOL |
I am OP and I don't understand why one person wants to throw around accusations that I and others are "trolls" when we are asking if anyone can explain this statement. If you don't like gay marriage.... whatever. I'm not here to debate you. If you like it, o.k. ... same. I just want to understand the theory b/c I can't understand what they are referrencing or implying by saying that it "undermines traditional marriage."
To the person throwing out the "troll" accusations, why do you feel the need to be so accusatory and angry? (That is a rhetorical question.) |
I think the argument is, that while it might be natural to feel attracted to the same sex, to choose to embrace that inkling and create a culture and life around it is a choice. A choice that is contrary to the established traditional man/woman marriage. Married people feel that it is a sacred union, and that if you let people change to rules, it invalidates the sanctity of that union. Some people feel that while gay couples deserve the same rights and protections, that they should not be able to change the traditional institution of marriage as it has been established. The fact is, gay couples are not the same as hetero couples, so the union should be named something else. |
I'll answer the question. I believe the original question was "Gay marriage-explain the argument that it undermines heterosexual marriage".
The answer is: It doesn't. As a straight female in a healthy marriage, I can't think of a single way in which legalizing gay marriage affects my marriage at all. And I can think of many, many, many reasons why two of my dearest friends, partnered for almost 15 years, should be allowed the same rights and privileges as any married couple. And for what it's worth, my kids have grown up very close to these two women. They refer to them as "Aunt ____" and "Aunt _______" They have never questioned the relationship nor been confused about it in any way. As far as they are concerned, they are married, just like daddy and I are married. I will never understand why anyone feels the need to tell two consenting adults whom or how they should love each other. |
Am I correct that not too many years ago interracial marriage was illegal? Society progresses, at least we hope it does. And the rules change. |
How are homosexual couples not the same as heterosexual couples? Aside from their respective genders - what's the difference? Divorce and spousal abuse are greater risks to the "sanctity of marriage" then homosexual couples who want to get married and don't influence your marriage at all. Two men or two women get married - how exactly does that influence the marriage to your spouse? It doesn't. The "traditional" institution of marriage technically was arranged marriages, wasn't it? |
Aside from their respective genders, the difference is their sex, as in male or female. The argument is, that the definition of marriage is between a man and a woman. When you change that fundamental fact, it ceases to be a marriage. If you want to split hairs, I suppose yes, arranged marriages were how it began, but it has always been between a man and a woman. That part has never changed. As our culture changes, we change secondary "rules", such as prohibiting interracial marriage, raising the age of consent, etc. BUT....the sex (man/woman) of the parties involved isn't secondary. It defines the entire word.
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NP here. By your logic, an elderly widow shouldn't be allowed to marry because she can't procreate, right? Or the girl that had cancer as a teen, had chemo, and as a result can no longer have children. She shouldn't be allowed to get married either, right? Or the young man that was injured in war while defending your pea-sized brain...he can no longer have children. So we should absolutely stop him from marriage too, right? |
So, you too see the silliness of calling my lifestyle or sex life "unhealthy"? And, for the record, I've been pregnant 4 times. I haven't had to pay to achieve pregnancy yet. But, I'm sure that statement is so encouraging to parents who have used ART to build their families or the ones who had to turn to egg or sperm donation. |
Haven't read all the posts, but it undermines heterosexual marriage the same way integrating schools undermined the education of white children. (It didn't . . . was just an excuse to oppress the "other). |
I don't see how it undermines the sanctity of marriage at all! With all of the hetero divorices (including my parents) and the fact that the marriage institution had become so jaded by Hollywood and society that there are freaking billboards to promote marriage in general, I find that marriage should not be discriminated for anyone! It's just ridiculous and I bet gay couples have less issues then straight couples. FWIW I'm a straight female married. |
I'm the OP of the similar thread on the political discussion page. It pretty much degenerated into one sodomy-obsessed poster being quite concerned with sodomy, sodomy, and sodomy. Also religion, and of course let's not forget sodomy Other than that, zip in the way of a real argument against gay marriage.
There are no rational arguments against gay marriage. There is no reason it undermines what is currently identified as "traditional" marriage. (You want traditional? Try polygamy, women as chattel, arranged marriages, child brides...tradition changes.) There is no threat to heterosexual marriage from gay marriage. |