What time do you expect to see green dots each morning?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ignore the dots.

We had some kind of tracking system based on Teams for a bit and they turned it off because it was unbelievably glitchy. It sometimes claimed people only worked 20 minutes, it sometimes would claim someone worked 32 hours in a day. Total mess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ignore the dots.

We had some kind of tracking system based on Teams for a bit and they turned it off because it was unbelievably glitchy. It sometimes claimed people only worked 20 minutes, it sometimes would claim someone worked 32 hours in a day. Total mess.

The system just monitors how long the dot is green, not your key strokes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ignore the dots.

We had some kind of tracking system based on Teams for a bit and they turned it off because it was unbelievably glitchy. It sometimes claimed people only worked 20 minutes, it sometimes would claim someone worked 32 hours in a day. Total mess.

The system just monitors how long the dot is green, not your key strokes?

The page said it was based on Teams and log ins? All I know for sure is it was comically bad.

[Anonymous]

I know staff who have bought mouse jigglers to avoid this.

Trust your staff. If they aren't responsive when you need them, then start to wonder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The green dot means nothing

+1

Who is paying attention to this? If you need someone, send them a message. If they don't respond in a reasonable amount of time, and that happens regularly, then THAT'S your problem. Not the stupid dot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The green dot means nothing

Well, the indicator that you are offline and have been away for hours/days isn’t a good look.

It similarly looks bad when you don’t answer calls and can’t hop on Teams when everyone else is joining an impromptu meeting.

Do you have another job or are you just screwing around instead of working?

[Anonymous]

The green dot means nothing about availability and is technologically unreliable.

If you need to have core hours for your business then you should set those. But having set them, measure availability by actual availability and responsiveness, not dots.

Also, every job should have performance standards: they are not just for widget production. If you can't articulate what the work is, then you are not prepared to evaluate anybody's performance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The green dot means nothing

+1

Who is paying attention to this? If you need someone, send them a message. If they don't respond in a reasonable amount of time, and that happens regularly, then THAT'S your problem. Not the stupid dot.

But what is the reasonable time to start work on a Friday morning?

Is it offensive to send someone a teams chat at 8:30? If the green light is on, game on! If not, how long must you wait…if at all?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The green dot means nothing

Well, the indicator that you are offline and have been away for hours/days isn’t a good look.

It similarly looks bad when you don’t answer calls and can’t hop on Teams when everyone else is joining an impromptu meeting.

Do you have another job or are you just screwing around instead of working?

I'm 100% in person. I can't hop on your impromptu meeting because I'm in another meeting, on a call, talking to someone in the hall, gone to the bathroom, or deep in a complicated task. If you need me to sit by my phone then make that explicit and expect that I'll get less done as a result.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The green dot means nothing about availability and is technologically unreliable.

If you need to have core hours for your business then you should set those. But having set them, measure availability by actual availability and responsiveness, not dots.

Also, every job should have performance standards: they are not just for widget production. If you can't articulate what the work is, then you are not prepared to evaluate anybody's performance.

This. Someone can have a green dot if they're just mouse jiggling or reading the news. You just can't base metrics off of the status.

[Anonymous]

I don’t pay much attention to the green dots. I definitely don’t monitor when my direct reports come online unless I need something very specific, which is rare. They’re adult professionals. I’m not a babysitter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The green dot means nothing

Well, the indicator that you are offline and have been away for hours/days isn’t a good look.

It similarly looks bad when you don’t answer calls and can’t hop on Teams when everyone else is joining an impromptu meeting.

Do you have another job or are you just screwing around instead of working?

What a weird way to think. Like, you sound mentally ill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The green dot means nothing

Yes, Teams is quite wonky. I've had extensive conversations with someone in Teams where they're clearly working and their dot is yellow the whole time.

Agreed.

My team is expected to be reachable/responsive between 9 and 5. There's wiggle room.

[Anonymous]

Betting OP is some low-level clock watcher mad their coworker won’t respond immediately to whatever dumb thing they sent on Teams at 8:15 this morning.

[Anonymous]

I've had TWO unproductive employees in my 20 year career as a fed supervisor....one was shopping on Amazon and doing their side gig and the other was floating around chatting all day....and I only knew that because their colleagues started complaining.... especially when deadlines were tight, as it should be.