Did Fallsmead class run out of school and into community during Wootton Shooting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They ran because they heard the shots. I don't think the lockdown was announced yet. Lakewood locked down around 2:40. Fallsmead was probably about the same. Gunshots 2:15.

lol you are joking right? How loud do you think gunshots are? Not even every kid at Wootton heard the shot. But you think class of 4th graders heard the shot from .5 away separated by roads and woods?

They ran during the lockdown because the announcement that came over made it sound like there was an active shooter in the school. Please get your facts right and ask a Fallsmead parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw this in another thread but I feel like this warrants its own thread… can someone attest to this? If this is true, holy shit. Is MCPS not going to own up to this?

What was posted:
Yalll want to talk about lockdown failures? The media isn’t reporting this and MCPS will never own up to this… but ask any Fallsmead parent.

The announcement made at Fallsmead ES made it sound like there was an active shooter in Fallsmead. At least one classroom ran out into the Fallsmead community with their teacher. The ended up sheltering at some kid’s basement.

The irony is that they ran quite literally into danger.

But no…MCPS won’t include that will they??

MCPS teacher here...

Yes. This is what we are taught to do in an active shooter situation.
Avoid
Deny
Defend

We are told that if there is an active shooter and we are able to safely exit the building with our students, that we should do so. I'm at the end of the hallway near an exterior door and this is my plan if it ever happens.

But this wasn’t an active shooter. The shooter was at large in the community, the safest place was inside Fallsmead. Those kids and the teacher ran literally into danger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Daaaaamn so that's where the CEO was? Is that a separate lockdown or after Wootton's?

No, these are completely separate issues.

Police Chief says CEO was at Lakewood ES instead of Wootton because he was responding to a separate incident. Lakewood principal says he was not and there was no incident at Lakewood. Nobody knows where he actually was.

Separately, because of the Wootton shooting, Fallsmead ES—which is merely .5 mile away—went into lockdown due to the shooter being at large (he ran out of Wootton with the gun). During Fallsmead ES lockdown, a class of kids with their teacher ran outside the safety of a building and into the community where the shooter was.

This is not the fault of the teacher IF they actually thought the shooter was in the school. Lockdown drills say you absolutely can run away into the neighborhood for safety. It's a communication failure on whoever made the announcement that there was an active shooter in the school. Now if that announcement never happened, yeah-then it is on the teacher.

Not blaming the teacher at all. Blame the announcement. Blame MCPS.

Again, why am I learning this on DCUM?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They ran because they heard the shots. I don't think the lockdown was announced yet. Lakewood locked down around 2:40. Fallsmead was probably about the same. Gunshots 2:15.

lol you are joking right? How loud do you think gunshots are? Not even every kid at Wootton heard the shot. But you think class of 4th graders heard the shot from .5 away separated by roads and woods?

They ran during the lockdown because the announcement that came over made it sound like there was an active shooter in the school. Please get your facts right and ask a Fallsmead parent

I've heard actual murder gunshots 3 times in my life from just as far away & I am a Fallsmead parent, friend!

[Anonymous]

I’m not blaming the teacher at all. Bless their heart for running with their kids and keeping the kids calm. I can only imagine how scars everyone is. As a parent, I would have been deeply grateful to that teacher.

That said, this is MCPS communication failure. Like the JW thread was saying, MCPS needs better system wide alerts. If their lack of streamline communication made folks think the active shooter was in their school such that kids and their teacher ran outside to where the shooter actually was…in the community… then clearly we need to think of better ways to communicate.

This is the America we live in, the question isn’t if but when the next shooting happens. We need to get this right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They ran because they heard the shots. I don't think the lockdown was announced yet. Lakewood locked down around 2:40. Fallsmead was probably about the same. Gunshots 2:15.

lol you are joking right? How loud do you think gunshots are? Not even every kid at Wootton heard the shot. But you think class of 4th graders heard the shot from .5 away separated by roads and woods?

They ran during the lockdown because the announcement that came over made it sound like there was an active shooter in the school. Please get your facts right and ask a Fallsmead parent

I've heard actual murder gunshots 3 times in my life from just as far away & I am a Fallsmead parent, friend!

Have you spoken to parents of the 4th graders? If you have, you would know that they ran during the lockdown because the announcement led the kids in the class to believe the shooter was inside Fallsmead

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Saw this in another thread but I feel like this warrants its own thread… can someone attest to this? If this is true, holy shit. Is MCPS not going to own up to this?

What was posted:
Yalll want to talk about lockdown failures? The media isn’t reporting this and MCPS will never own up to this… but ask any Fallsmead parent.

The announcement made at Fallsmead ES made it sound like there was an active shooter in Fallsmead. At least one classroom ran out into the Fallsmead community with their teacher. The ended up sheltering at some kid’s basement.

The irony is that they ran quite literally into danger.

But no…MCPS won’t include that will they??

Oh f geez

[Anonymous]

This is exactly what you're supposed to do if you think there is a shooter from the teacher's standpoint. Run, hide, fight. But yes, the announcement making it unclear that there was no threat at Fallsmead is a huge issue and needs to be fixed asap.

[Anonymous]

The kids ran…into the Fallsmead neighborhood while the shooter was hiding in the Fallsmead neighborhood. He was found in the basement of his home on Chantilly Court near Fallsmead.

Whatever chain of events and miscommunications led to a group of children and their teacher to flee from safety into where the danger actually was…needs to be investigated so that this never happen again.

MCPS needs to learn from this.

[Anonymous]

I’m sorry…I’m still not over the fact that I’m learning all of this from DCUM…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry…I’m still not over the fact that I’m learning all of this from DCUM…

Get used to it. Taylor is not gonna do better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The kids ran…into the Fallsmead neighborhood while the shooter was hiding in the Fallsmead neighborhood. He was found in the basement of his home on Chantilly Court near Fallsmead.

Whatever chain of events and miscommunications led to a group of children and their teacher to flee from safety into where the danger actually was…needs to be investigated so that this never happen again.

MCPS needs to learn from this.

Source?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry…I’m still not over the fact that I’m learning all of this from DCUM…

Get used to it. Taylor is not gonna do better.

What is McKnight thinking right about now

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kids ran…into the Fallsmead neighborhood while the shooter was hiding in the Fallsmead neighborhood. He was found in the basement of his home on Chantilly Court near Fallsmead.

Whatever chain of events and miscommunications led to a group of children and their teacher to flee from safety into where the danger actually was…needs to be investigated so that this never happen again.

MCPS needs to learn from this.

Source?

Source: my friend who drove over to the basement to grab her kid!?!?!

Isn’t this the problem? There are no sources in the news or MCPS statements to point to because they aren’t talking about this.

You want sources? Talk to any Fallsmead parent?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry…I’m still not over the fact that I’m learning all of this from DCUM…

Get used to it. Taylor is not gonna do better.

What is McKnight thinking right about now

That she's glad she took the money and ran.