Trump Admin Hints Furloughed Workers May not Be Paid After Shutdown

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ugh they are winning at completely demoralizing us. For the unpteenth time since the election, I’m feeling like a total loser for sticking with my job as a fed, even though my job is relatively safe from RIFs. Also, to respond to a person up thread — what happens to fed morale if there is a law passed stating that in the future furloughed Feds won’t get paid? Will anyone choose to continue being a fed (if other options exist)??

You are letting him in your head, that is what he wants. Fed jobs are still very secure and have excellent benefits. This is just mind games and you shouldn’t fall for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Be careful Feds--new article in the WaPo today about threats to not pay federal workers post-shutdown. This isn't the first time that the Trump admin has indicated that Federal workers won't get paid despite it being the law to do so following a shutdown.

Administration hints furloughed workers may not be paid after shutdown
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/administration-hints-furloughed-workers-may-not-be-paid-after-shutdown/ar-AA1PNm7u?ocid=BingNewsVerp

The Trump administration is sending notifications to federal staff suggesting only those who are working during the government shutdown will be paid when it ends, despite a 2019 law that guarantees pay to furloughed employees, too.

“Once an appropriation or continuing resolution is enacted, excepted employees are entitled to receive payment,” read one message sent to some portions of the government and obtained by The Washington Post. That sentence — which leaves out furloughed workers — was not included in the first furlough notice issued last month, according to an employee who, like others interviewed, spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retribution.

If he does air traffic will completely shut down with in an hour of the EO.

[Anonymous]

The new hint Trump has is a hint of desperation.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think it’s a bluff or some performance act here. Trump and his minions mean every damn word they say. They don’t care about the law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is just an empty threat. That’s why they can just “hint”.

There are laws saying the contrary. Even the Supreme Court will reject an obvious violation of the law.

You have far more faith in the current court than I.

+2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Be careful" how, OP? This is completely out of our control. We're already living without paychecks, nobody i know is putting it all on a credit card with no worries.

Most of the Feds I know are operating under the assumption that they will eventually be paid. But there's been enough coverage in the news of how Trump doesn't want that to occur. Today's story is just the latest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Be careful Feds--new article in the WaPo today about threats to not pay federal workers post-shutdown. This isn't the first time that the Trump admin has indicated that Federal workers won't get paid despite it being the law to do so following a shutdown.

Administration hints furloughed workers may not be paid after shutdown
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/administration-hints-furloughed-workers-may-not-be-paid-after-shutdown/ar-AA1PNm7u?ocid=BingNewsVerp

The Trump administration is sending notifications to federal staff suggesting only those who are working during the government shutdown will be paid when it ends, despite a 2019 law that guarantees pay to furloughed employees, too.

“Once an appropriation or continuing resolution is enacted, excepted employees are entitled to receive payment,” read one message sent to some portions of the government and obtained by The Washington Post. That sentence — which leaves out furloughed workers — was not included in the first furlough notice issued last month, according to an employee who, like others interviewed, spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retribution.

If he does air traffic will completely shut down with in an hour of the EO.

I'm surprised they haven't already quit. Working for pay long hours in a stressful job with no end to the shutdown in sight. It's like slavery 2025 version.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The new hint Trump has is a hint of desperation.

Add Duffy to that. Claims of total chaos in the skies if the shutdown doesn’t end soon!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Be careful" how, OP? This is completely out of our control. We're already living without paychecks, nobody i know is putting it all on a credit card with no worries.

Most of the Feds I know are operating under the assumption that they will eventually be paid. But there's been enough coverage in the news of how Trump doesn't want that to occur. Today's story is just the latest.

And? Trump can say whatever he wants. There will be hell on both sides if they don’t pay. I can’t imagine the politicians in PA, TX, FL and others are ok with their Fed employees not getting paid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Be careful" how, OP? This is completely out of our control. We're already living without paychecks, nobody i know is putting it all on a credit card with no worries.

Most of the Feds I know are operating under the assumption that they will eventually be paid. But there's been enough coverage in the news of how Trump doesn't want that to occur. Today's story is just the latest.

No, I haven't been operating under this assumption at all. I have been working towards a new certification and applying for other jobs. They want a lot of attrition, and if the labor market were better, more of us would be gone. There is little else I can do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Be careful" how, OP? This is completely out of our control. We're already living without paychecks, nobody i know is putting it all on a credit card with no worries.

Most of the Feds I know are operating under the assumption that they will eventually be paid. But there's been enough coverage in the news of how Trump doesn't want that to occur. Today's story is just the latest.

Unless you are on DRP. They have to pay those folks regardless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ugh they are winning at completely demoralizing us. For the unpteenth time since the election, I’m feeling like a total loser for sticking with my job as a fed, even though my job is relatively safe from RIFs. Also, to respond to a person up thread — what happens to fed morale if there is a law passed stating that in the future furloughed Feds won’t get paid? Will anyone choose to continue being a fed (if other options exist)??

My answer to the morale question is this: if they want to be transactional, I can do that too. I love the purpose that my fed job has in doing something that betters this country and benefits humanity. I used to work 60hr/week on it, but tapered down to about 50hr/week and have a side gig job. I can tamp down to 40hr/week and walk away from the extra government work to spend more time on the private work. My side gig billing rate equates to $400K/yr, more than twice what the government pays me. I’m happy to give the government the extra benefit of my work but only insofar as the government shows that it values me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I mean, if that happens, there will be a huge lawsuit.

Also what is going to happen to our health insurance? How are they going to get paid if we don't get backpay?

This administration doesn't give two shits.

Trump sees the US Treasury as his own bank account. Congress will not enforce anything Republicans are Congress. SCOTUS won't either so here we are Feds will never be paid.

If you believe they will you have not paid attention to the words of Peter Theil, Vought, Miller, and Trump. Shame on anyone who did not read Project 2025 and Theils writings before Trump was elected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Be careful" how, OP? This is completely out of our control. We're already living without paychecks, nobody i know is putting it all on a credit card with no worries.

Most of the Feds I know are operating under the assumption that they will eventually be paid. But there's been enough coverage in the news of how Trump doesn't want that to occur. Today's story is just the latest.

And? Trump can say whatever he wants. There will be hell on both sides if they don’t pay. I can’t imagine the politicians in PA, TX, FL and others are ok with their Fed employees not getting paid.

LOL you are an idiot.

Texas and Florida are all in for what ever Don says.

Abbott and DeSantis will do his bidding

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ugh they are winning at completely demoralizing us. For the unpteenth time since the election, I’m feeling like a total loser for sticking with my job as a fed, even though my job is relatively safe from RIFs. Also, to respond to a person up thread — what happens to fed morale if there is a law passed stating that in the future furloughed Feds won’t get paid? Will anyone choose to continue being a fed (if other options exist)??

My answer to the morale question is this: if they want to be transactional, I can do that too. I love the purpose that my fed job has in doing something that betters this country and benefits humanity. I used to work 60hr/week on it, but tapered down to about 50hr/week and have a side gig job. I can tamp down to 40hr/week and walk away from the extra government work to spend more time on the private work. My side gig billing rate equates to $400K/yr, more than twice what the government pays me. I’m happy to give the government the extra benefit of my work but only insofar as the government shows that it values me.

I could care less if the government values what I do, and this administration has made it clear they do not, because I know that the people I serve value what I do.