How conservative is Washington & Lee?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a straight, white son - could possibly play his sport there. He is progressive, despises Trump and his followers' anti-immigrant, anti-choice, anti-woman positions.

Can someone tell me how conservative Washington & Lee is? The Lee moniker makes it nearly a non-starter but trying to keep an open mind.

Well, for starters, he needs to be more open and learned about political differences in our country. Hopefully it’s only his mom who is bigot who gets her sounds bites from MSM. College is supposed to be about learning to think and argue from different points of view.

+1
53% of the country, OP.
That’s not a small number who does not share your viewpoint. It probably feels like everyone thinks like you but objectively they don’t.

Where do you get 53%? DJT was elected with 49.8 % of the popular vote.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a straight, white son - could possibly play his sport there. He is progressive, despises Trump and his followers' anti-immigrant, anti-choice, anti-woman positions.

Can someone tell me how conservative Washington & Lee is? The Lee moniker makes it nearly a non-starter but trying to keep an open mind.

“Despises” and categorizing everything someone else thinks as “anti” sure reads as the party of tolerance.

I’m old enough to remember when voicing abhorrence for someone else’s viewpoint and making no effort to actually try to understand where they are coming from was called “narrow minded” and “intolerant” and was considered an undesirable characteristic to have in order to co-exist with a diverse student body on a college campus.

But I guess it turns out the party preaching “tolerance” didn’t ever really mean they just wanted others to tolerate their viewpoint. They actually meant you need to express total agreement with their position or they will have zero tolerance for your “hate” (which is really just an excuse to mischaracterize every conservative position as hateful)

Literally don’t know what to tell you though. You have a bazillion other schools where your sins echo chamber can be experienced. Why obsess over one where he suspects he might (gasp!) be exposed to diversity of thought? Just pick a different school if you’re so worried?

So would you call yourself "narrow-minded" and "intolerant" of fascism, or would you say you're open to it?

OP understands exactly where the right is coming from - they hate the left so much they're more than willing to crap on the Constitution and due process just to make their guy dictator (see: "plenary authority", the Trump administration's abhorrence of the Judicial branch and blatant disregard for court rulings). It's been clear since 2016 to those who have indeed made an effort to see where the support for Trump came from. Spoiler alert: it came from people whose saw his racist, sexist rhetoric as "saying it like it is", i.e. the same type of people who say racist shit and then go "I was just saying what everyone's thinking!" because they genuinely think everyone is as racist as them and just pretending to not be because of the woke media threatening to cancel them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a straight, white son - could possibly play his sport there. He is progressive, despises Trump and his followers' anti-immigrant, anti-choice, anti-woman positions.

Can someone tell me how conservative Washington & Lee is? The Lee moniker makes it nearly a non-starter but trying to keep an open mind.

“Despises” and categorizing everything someone else thinks as “anti” sure reads as the party of tolerance.

I’m old enough to remember when voicing abhorrence for someone else’s viewpoint and making no effort to actually try to understand where they are coming from was called “narrow minded” and “intolerant” and was considered an undesirable characteristic to have in order to co-exist with a diverse student body on a college campus.

But I guess it turns out the party preaching “tolerance” didn’t ever really mean they just wanted others to tolerate their viewpoint. They actually meant you need to express total agreement with their position or they will have zero tolerance for your “hate” (which is really just an excuse to mischaracterize every conservative position as hateful)

Literally don’t know what to tell you though. You have a bazillion other schools where your sins echo chamber can be experienced. Why obsess over one where he suspects he might (gasp!) be exposed to diversity of thought? Just pick a different school if you’re so worried?

So would you call yourself "narrow-minded" and "intolerant" of fascism, or would you say you're open to it?

OP understands exactly where the right is coming from - they hate the left so much they're more than willing to crap on the Constitution and due process just to make their guy dictator (see: "plenary authority", the Trump administration's abhorrence of the Judicial branch and blatant disregard for court rulings). It's been clear since 2016 to those who have indeed made an effort to see where the support for Trump came from. Spoiler alert: it came from people whose saw his racist, sexist rhetoric as "saying it like it is", i.e. the same type of people who say racist shit and then go "I was just saying what everyone's thinking!" because they genuinely think everyone is as racist as them and just pretending to not be because of the woke media threatening to cancel them.

*their pedophile, not "guy"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a straight, white son - could possibly play his sport there. He is progressive, despises Trump and his followers' anti-immigrant, anti-choice, anti-woman positions.

Can someone tell me how conservative Washington & Lee is? The Lee moniker makes it nearly a non-starter but trying to keep an open mind.

Well, for starters, he needs to be more open and learned about political differences in our country. Hopefully it’s only his mom who is bigot who gets her sounds bites from MSM. College is supposed to be about learning to think and argue from different points of view.

+1
53% of the country, OP.
That’s not a small number who does not share your viewpoint. It probably feels like everyone thinks like you but objectively they don’t.

Where do you get 53%? DJT was elected with 49.8 % of the popular vote.

And an even lower percentage of all registered voters (because many don't vote), and down to almost 30% of all adults.

Maga demanding that their views are respected. I will be so glad when this nightmare is over and very few people admit to ever supporting these fascists.

[Anonymous]

To answer your question...it is VERY conservative. Kids tend to come from very conservative homes and most participate in the very conservative (and southern-styled) greek system.

[Anonymous]

Many of the previous posters all have wrong assumptions. My kid goes there currently. 1/2 friends are liberal, 1/2 conservative. Sure there are a few frats/sororities that are more “southern”, but the majority are not. The beauty of having such a high percentage of Greek life is that it’s very laid back and welcoming as long as you don’t strive for the top 1 or 2 houses. Nothing like Southern SEC schools. Almost all that rush get a spot somewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To answer your question...it is VERY conservative. Kids tend to come from very conservative homes and most participate in the very conservative (and southern-styled) greek system.

Not "very" conservative. Conservative but not MAGA at all. The college town is nice and more "progressive" than surrounding area.

UMC families from mostly southern states.

It's not Alabama or Tennessee or anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They removed the confederate flags from Lee Chapel in 2014. So less conservative than it once was. Located near VMI which is also less conservative than it once was.

VMI woke up all the students at 1 or 2 am when Donald Trump won so they could celebrate. 2024.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They removed the confederate flags from Lee Chapel in 2014. So less conservative than it once was. Located near VMI which is also less conservative than it once was.

VMI woke up all the students at 1 or 2 am when Donald Trump won so they could celebrate. 2024.

Ew

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a straight, white son - could possibly play his sport there. He is progressive, despises Trump and his followers' anti-immigrant, anti-choice, anti-woman positions.

Can someone tell me how conservative Washington & Lee is? The Lee moniker makes it nearly a non-starter but trying to keep an open mind.

Well, for starters, he needs to be more open and learned about political differences in our country. Hopefully it’s only his mom who is bigot who gets her sounds bites from MSM. College is supposed to be about learning to think and argue from different points of view.

+1
53% of the country, OP.
That’s not a small number who does not share your viewpoint. It probably feels like everyone thinks like you but objectively they don’t.

Where do you get 53%? DJT was elected with 49.8 % of the popular vote.

And an even lower percentage of all registered voters (because many don't vote), and down to almost 30% of all adults.

Maga demanding that their views are respected. I will be so glad when this nightmare is over and very few people admit to ever supporting these fascists.

My theory is that ~1/3 of the world’s population is straight up cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs

It shows up in survey after survey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To answer your question...it is VERY conservative. Kids tend to come from very conservative homes and most participate in the very conservative (and southern-styled) greek system.

Not "very" conservative. Conservative but not MAGA at all. The college town is nice and more "progressive" than surrounding area.

UMC families from mostly southern states.

It's not Alabama or Tennessee or anything.

44% are from VA(many from NoVA), Mid-Atlantic and Northeast. 9% are international. So over 50% of the school is not from the South. My kids roommates: 1 from NJ, 1 from NoVa, 1 from Pa(outside Philly) and 1 from Richmond.

15% from the South, 19% Southeast. The rest from West/Midwest.

It is a very balanced school. The faculty are overwhelmingly liberal based on the classes available and my kids experience. MAGA kids are not common here.

This is not the W&L from the 70’s and 80’s. It is a very different experience than the stereotypes mentioned by some posters.

[Anonymous]

Bigot? Ahhh, poor lil thing, your identification as a victimized white person being replaced by you-know-whats is such trauma. And it's SO underreported and under sympathized with by the old timey news media. Thank heavens for OAR, News America, what's left of Fox, and all those citizen patriots on social media telling it like they see it, huh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a straight, white son - could possibly play his sport there. He is progressive, despises Trump and his followers' anti-immigrant, anti-choice, anti-woman positions.

Can someone tell me how conservative Washington & Lee is? The Lee moniker makes it nearly a non-starter but trying to keep an open mind.

“Despises” and categorizing everything someone else thinks as “anti” sure reads as the party of tolerance.

I’m old enough to remember when voicing abhorrence for someone else’s viewpoint and making no effort to actually try to understand where they are coming from was called “narrow minded” and “intolerant” and was considered an undesirable characteristic to have in order to co-exist with a diverse student body on a college campus.

But I guess it turns out the party preaching “tolerance” didn’t ever really mean they just wanted others to tolerate their viewpoint. They actually meant you need to express total agreement with their position or they will have zero tolerance for your “hate” (which is really just an excuse to mischaracterize every conservative position as hateful)

Literally don’t know what to tell you though. You have a bazillion other schools where your sins echo chamber can be experienced. Why obsess over one where he suspects he might (gasp!) be exposed to diversity of thought? Just pick a different school if you’re so worried?

So would you call yourself "narrow-minded" and "intolerant" of fascism, or would you say you're open to it?

OP understands exactly where the right is coming from - they hate the left so much they're more than willing to crap on the Constitution and due process just to make their guy dictator (see: "plenary authority", the Trump administration's abhorrence of the Judicial branch and blatant disregard for court rulings). It's been clear since 2016 to those who have indeed made an effort to see where the support for Trump came from. Spoiler alert: it came from people whose saw his racist, sexist rhetoric as "saying it like it is", i.e. the same type of people who say racist shit and then go "I was just saying what everyone's thinking!" because they genuinely think everyone is as racist as them and just pretending to not be because of the woke media threatening to cancel them.

Yawn. Unlike the Biden administration who shat all over the 1st amendment in pressuring private companies to censor and deplatform people who weren't violating their speech policies, as both Google and Facebook fully admitted?

You're just repeating the same hysterical shrieking paranoia from the View or MSNBC (hint, Trump has never defied a court order, believe it or not).

Anyway, am pretty sure OP isn't sincere and just wanted to stir the hornets nest with her loaded post and people like you fell for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To answer your question...it is VERY conservative. Kids tend to come from very conservative homes and most participate in the very conservative (and southern-styled) greek system.

That was my experience.

[Anonymous]

I just read an interesting book, Robert E Lee and Me, by a former West Point professor and W&L alum. He talks a lot about his experience there and the Lee influence—and his own evolving view of Lee. He gave a talk at W&L critical of Lee that was well received.

I would check out the school. The reality is that few colleges are *very* conservative because few highly educated people in the US are super conservative, especially in academia.