What it means to be a woman or a man

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am a woman but I’m super into lifting weights, sweating during a workout, and couldn’t care less about getting my nails done or fancy clothes or anything typically “feminine”. But I’m a woman.

I have a cousin who is a butch lesbian, but she’s solidly a woman.


Lifting weights is very feminine 🙂‍↔️
Anonymous
A fairly consistent aspect of being a woman is earning less than the guy next to you doing the same exact work.
If one hasn't experienced this, sorry, not a woman.
Which is why Bruce/Kaitlyn Jenner is just a cosplay. He earned his accolades and endorsement income as a man at the height of his career. If he was a woman that early on, no way would he have appeared on the Cheerios box.
Anonymous
Follow up to a above - it is financially convenient that he became a woman after his career was over.
Anonymous
I think people have lost their ever-loving minds because they keep confusing gender with sex. Which I find to be so weird because in theory people are paying more attention and are more educated about it... but not really.

CIS men don't just have a male gender and CIS female don't just have female gender. We all present in a myriad of ways. Feminine women may express predominantly in feminine gendered ways, but they also have masculine traits and vice versa. I am a woman who has long hair, wears makeup, and likes to make my home look nice. But I also play contact sports, spit when I run, express anger openly, am super competitive, into fast cars, and I like to build things with my hands.

This confusing of gender and sex has fluid people thinking they must mutilate their bodies. It also has people thinking that because they want to express their gender as feminine (dresses, makeup, mannerisms etc) that it must mean they are in the wrong body. Uh no. How many women do you know wear dresses on a daily basis? the VAST majority do not. It's so unimportant. But I have never seen a trans woman present herself as anything other than being feminine in every single freaking aspect. It's exhausting. Just be who you want to be, look how you want to look, gender yourself out the wazoo, but leave your sex alone.
Anonymous
Being a woman is knowing what it means to be oppressed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm a cis straight woman and I agree that a lot of gender is a social construct. Silly stuff like "manly" or "girly" drinks, clothes, liking sports, liking certain TV shows, it's all just artifice and peer pressure.

I have a little boy who loves boy things but will happily go along and play princesses with little girls his age. He cares more about making them happy than he does gender expression.


Fun fact but the intense split in baby and kids gender clothing, toys and decor is a business ploy to get parents of both genders to buy more items.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think people have lost their ever-loving minds because they keep confusing gender with sex. Which I find to be so weird because in theory people are paying more attention and are more educated about it... but not really.

CIS men don't just have a male gender and CIS female don't just have female gender. We all present in a myriad of ways. Feminine women may express predominantly in feminine gendered ways, but they also have masculine traits and vice versa. I am a woman who has long hair, wears makeup, and likes to make my home look nice. But I also play contact sports, spit when I run, express anger openly, am super competitive, into fast cars, and I like to build things with my hands.

This confusing of gender and sex has fluid people thinking they must mutilate their bodies. It also has people thinking that because they want to express their gender as feminine (dresses, makeup, mannerisms etc) that it must mean they are in the wrong body. Uh no. How many women do you know wear dresses on a daily basis? the VAST majority do not. It's so unimportant. But I have never seen a trans woman present herself as anything other than being feminine in every single freaking aspect. It's exhausting. Just be who you want to be, look how you want to look, gender yourself out the wazoo, but leave your sex alone.


Gender and sex are the same. We have tried to separate them. But then people transition and have surgery to match their biological sex, as much as they can, to their gender. Because everyone knows that they are the same and changing one without the other doesn't work.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think it doesn't matter. Meet people where they are.


This is how I feel and what I teach my kids. I tell them how it usually goes and I tell them that we take other people at their word. If you feel like you do t fit the mold, it’s not our business to argue the point.
Anonymous
My trans daughter wore her sister’s dresses as soon as she could dress herself. She secretly applied makeup by the time she was 10. She tried hard to conform to biological gender norms in middle and high school, playing football, dating girls, etc. She came out to us in college and began medically transitioning shortly thereafter. She is a smart person and knows she is not a biological woman. She understands chromosomes. But her whole life she’s known that her true desire is to present as a feminine gender. And that is a completely different thing than her sexual preferences.

For my trans daughter, it’s about the outside matching the inside, and she just could not tolerate presenting to the world (and being treated as) a male person. Hope this helps someone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am a woman but I’m super into lifting weights, sweating during a workout, and couldn’t care less about getting my nails done or fancy clothes or anything typically “feminine”. But I’m a woman.

I have a cousin who is a butch lesbian, but she’s solidly a woman.


Lifting weights is very feminine 🙂‍↔️



Agreed. Millions of women are "super into lifting weights". My gym is filled with them.
Anonymous
All comes down to one simple test. Can you write your name in the snow. If yes you are a man.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Being a woman is knowing what it means to be oppressed.


This! John Lennon wrote in 1972 that "woman is the ni....r of the world"!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it doesn't matter. Meet people where they are.


This is how I feel and what I teach my kids. I tell them how it usually goes and I tell them that we take other people at their word. If you feel like you do t fit the mold, it’s not our business to argue the point.


This. It doesn't cost you to be kind.

I have a friend who is trans and honestly the most important thing that happened around my friend transitioning was that he went from being suicidal to being not suicidal. More than anything I just want my friend to be happy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Follow up to a above - it is financially convenient that he became a woman after his career was over.


THIS
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A woman can be anywhere from frilly dress and lipstick to steel toe boots and power tools.
So can a man.

Literally the only thing that defines a man or woman is biology. Everything else is a construct.

I believe there are some biological aspects of being a man or woman that translate into roles like “mother” and “father”. But there is no one correct way to be a mother or a father. I do think mothers and fathers tend to provide different things and kids need both.


Well, biology informs behavior a lot more than certain people currently believe.
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