How can admission essays carry even an ounce of weight going forward?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's always been the case that rich kids could buy "editors" to write their essays. It would be entertaining to have kids submit essays as part of a standardized testing...I predict that admissions would change quite a bit if admissions officers could see how kids actually write without "support."

Our VERY expensive college counselors edited DC's essays to the point that it completely removed her voice and almost seemed flat. This was 3 years ago. Although I didn't realize it at the time, looking back, I'm sure they used an LLM.

3 years? It wasn’t around.

[Anonymous]

AI is banned at my Fed job. It isn’t on any govt issued laptop and id get fired if I used it. I write every day.

My kids attend/attended a Catholic HS with very strict AI/cheating rules. They write in class.

[Anonymous]

It's stupid in the first place.

Rich people get consultants and writers for their kids' essays.

They don't even know who actually wrote it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's always been the case that rich kids could buy "editors" to write their essays. It would be entertaining to have kids submit essays as part of a standardized testing...I predict that admissions would change quite a bit if admissions officers could see how kids actually write without "support."

Our VERY expensive college counselors edited DC's essays to the point that it completely removed her voice and almost seemed flat. This was 3 years ago. Although I didn't realize it at the time, looking back, I'm sure they used an LLM.

LLMs are two years old.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:AI is banned at my Fed job. It isn’t on any govt issued laptop and id get fired if I used it. I write every day.

My kids attend/attended a Catholic HS with very strict AI/cheating rules. They write in class.

What's the reason??
It can assist you do your job more effectively and improve quality.

I agree that for school, it should be conducted as SAT style - write in test center.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure many of you use ChatGPT or the like in your daily lives and see its power to write just about anything.

Is it time for schools to 100% kill all essays? Honestly, what's the point?

I can smell gpt essays a mile away. Heck, I can smell gpt posts on DCUM a mile away.
College essays need to be authentic. There is nothing authentic in the gpt essays.

+1


I think that AOs will value less polished essays a little more for being trustworthy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you don't recognize AI slop, you probably think you're getting great stuff out of chaptgpt. With the amount of reading AOs do, I think they can tell.

Low paid AOs are much less intelligent than most students applying to selective schools and much much less intelligent than AI.

Regardless of your baseless claim, they see more essays than you do and can spot the inauthentic ones better than you can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you don't recognize AI slop, you probably think you're getting great stuff out of chaptgpt. With the amount of reading AOs do, I think they can tell.

Low paid AOs are much less intelligent than most students applying to selective schools and much much less intelligent than AI.

Will you cut out this nonsense? One of the smartest people I know worked as an AO for an Ivy for a few years. She graduated from a top school and was a trailing military spouse who started as a temporary application reader and then got hired full time.

Low pay does not mean unintelligent. There are lots of very smart people who like or want this type of work.

[Anonymous]

You can use it well - but it’s an art. Know that there are so many AI markers that are not visible to the human eye (alliteration, sentence symmetry and structure, repetition of certain letters in the alphabet in a regular (inhuman) cadence).

1. Start with your draft. Refine and rewrite by hand. Using personal details and examples throughout.

2. Use a college based AI too to ask for specific feedback on the examples used, descriptions.

3. Examine the examples given and continue to ask for more and more precision. Ask for it to keep your original voice and be critical if it removes that voice.

4. Don’t incorporate it wholesale but use it to brainstorm and edit accordingly.

5. Continue for several weeks until it reads like the best version of you.

6. Run through paid version of originality.aI or gptzero to check for AI

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure many of you use ChatGPT or the like in your daily lives and see its power to write just about anything.

Is it time for schools to 100% kill all essays? Honestly, what's the point?

I can smell gpt essays a mile away. Heck, I can smell gpt posts on DCUM a mile away.
College essays need to be authentic. There is nothing authentic in the gpt essays.

Anyone can spot it if the essay is straight from gpt. If you generate an essay, then write it in your own words, the story it is conveying, no one can tell.

Once you have an idea and detail flushed out neatly, writing in your own words is a simple task. You stick to your style of writing. The trick is to read one paragraph one time and rewrite it without looking again. I am surprised at how many tricks HS students are up to these days!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AI is banned at my Fed job. It isn’t on any govt issued laptop and id get fired if I used it. I write every day.

My kids attend/attended a Catholic HS with very strict AI/cheating rules. They write in class.

What's the reason??
It can assist you do your job more effectively and improve quality.

I agree that for school, it should be conducted as SAT style - write in test center.

Classified material.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure many of you use ChatGPT or the like in your daily lives and see its power to write just about anything.

Is it time for schools to 100% kill all essays? Honestly, what's the point?

I can smell gpt essays a mile away. Heck, I can smell gpt posts on DCUM a mile away.
College essays need to be authentic. There is nothing authentic in the gpt essays.

Anyone can spot it if the essay is straight from gpt. If you generate an essay, then write it in your own words, the story it is conveying, no one can tell.

Once you have an idea and detail flushed out neatly, writing in your own words is a simple task. You stick to your style of writing. The trick is to read one paragraph one time and rewrite it without looking again. I am surprised at how many tricks HS students are up to these days!

I am not sure what you are saying. Are you saying gpt generates the idea of a story for you? So nothing is real? Or are you saying you input your idea into gpt for it to write it out then you rewrite it in your own style? If former it's fabricating. If latter, how does it help you and in what exact ways gpt contributes to your essay?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure many of you use ChatGPT or the like in your daily lives and see its power to write just about anything.

Is it time for schools to 100% kill all essays? Honestly, what's the point?

I can smell gpt essays a mile away. Heck, I can smell gpt posts on DCUM a mile away.
College essays need to be authentic. There is nothing authentic in the gpt essays.

Anyone can spot it if the essay is straight from gpt. If you generate an essay, then write it in your own words, the story it is conveying, no one can tell.

Once you have an idea and detail flushed out neatly, writing in your own words is a simple task. You stick to your style of writing. The trick is to read one paragraph one time and rewrite it without looking again. I am surprised at how many tricks HS students are up to these days!

I am not sure what you are saying. Are you saying gpt generates the idea of a story for you? So nothing is real? Or are you saying you input your idea into gpt for it to write it out then you rewrite it in your own style? If former it's fabricating. If latter, how does it help you and in what exact ways gpt contributes to your essay?

Play around with it.

Ask for it to give you an essay about your idea (write a detailed one paragraph summary highlighting a few experiences. The detail doesn’t need to be there but the more detail you have the better. It would be best if you could give it some of your previous writing as well so we can write in the same style that you write in. Spend some time on it. You’d be surprised).

By the way kids are using AI-powered college essay tools. There are hundreds of them.

[Anonymous]

There are hundreds of these companies now.

Feedback on any of the below?
www.kolly.ai
www.esai.ai
www.textero.io
www.athenaco.ai

[Anonymous]

It's not even AI, those with the resources are paying others to craft essays. If you have the money, you can pay for an essay