How can admission essays carry even an ounce of weight going forward?

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GA Tech has been ahead of the curve and explicitly states you can use AI as long as the story and facts are your own.

Probably because it’s becoming absolutely necessary in the tech world…non-negotiable.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure many of you use ChatGPT or the like in your daily lives and see its power to write just about anything.

Is it time for schools to 100% kill all essays? Honestly, what's the point?

Using ChatGPT well is also a skill. A skill that is going to be more important in the future.

HS and college students are already using it extensively. It is very helpful in reducing the amount of time required, eliminates the need to hire college counselors to review essays dramatically reducing costs and reduces stress.

You start with what is output and then personalize it extensively, which takes about 5% of the total effort compared to writing it from scratch. It has been a lifesaver in the last cycle for applying and getting into T20.

This, unfortunately, is the right take. This technology is a game changer and is not going anywhere. I don’t think that we can put the genie back in the bottle.

This is NOT the right take. Before someone can effectively use technology (BTW, not what the college asked for), they need to possess the skills themselves, otherwise they are not “using” the tool, it is using them. The idea that PP’s cheating offspring displaces someone who actually has the brains to benefit from. T20 is too bad.

Did you enjoy creating your first fork from scratch before you started using forks?

I know how to eat with my hand without being messy, which most fork eaters don’t know how to do. They’re completely dependent on a fork being around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:GA Tech has been ahead of the curve and explicitly states you can use AI as long as the story and facts are your own.

Probably because it’s becoming absolutely necessary in the tech world…non-negotiable.

+1. It still takes effort to make an AI essay worth reading. If you know how to make AI do that correctly, you’re worth admitting.

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I’ve read essays for years. Most of them are absolute trash. I welcome AI if it actually makes the essays better.

[Anonymous]

Essays shouldn't be a big problem for top kids. High school education is supposed to prepare you really well in writing. This is a non-issue.

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Anonymous wrote:There are hundreds of these companies now.

Feedback on any of the below?
www.kolly.ai
www.esai.ai
www.textero.io
www.athenaco.ai

Which is the best one for college essay help? Anyone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you don't recognize AI slop, you probably think you're getting great stuff out of chaptgpt. With the amount of reading AOs do, I think they can tell.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:Essays shouldn't be a big problem for top kids. High school education is supposed to prepare you really well in writing. This is a non-issue.

Even those kids use it…I don’t understand your comment.

[Anonymous]

Bring back the SAT 2 writing test and make it mandatory to evaluate which kids can actually write and let everyone use AI for their personal statements. These are two different things and there is no need to conflate them.

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Anonymous wrote:Bring back the SAT 2 writing test and make it mandatory to evaluate which kids can actually write and let everyone use AI for their personal statements. These are two different things and there is no need to conflate them.

Did ACT ever have writing? If not and the tests are interchangeable…what’s the solution now?

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Anonymous wrote:GA Tech has been ahead of the curve and explicitly states you can use AI as long as the story and facts are your own.

Probably because it’s becoming absolutely necessary in the tech world…non-negotiable.

Exactly. And it will be everywhere else. Very very soon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are hundreds of these companies now.

Feedback on any of the below?
www.kolly.ai
www.esai.ai
www.textero.io
www.athenaco.ai

Which is the best one for college essay help? Anyone?

Are you that lazy? Try them all. WTF is wrong with people nowadays? Someone gave you a gift. Do a little bit of work. Is that too much for you? A quick Google search shows dozens of hits on Reddit for them. Read and figure it out for yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:Essays shouldn't be a big problem for top kids. High school education is supposed to prepare you really well in writing. This is a non-issue.

Even those kids use it…I don’t understand your comment.

Unless you are shooting for T20 schools, essays are not that important anyway, AI or not.
If you are shooting for T20, and can't write a good essay, I call it a misfit.
The fact that "even those kids use it" doesn't help you. AI or not, those kids are going to write really good essays, so, a non-issue.
You are trying to make the case AI is going to change things dramatically but no it's not.

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Anonymous wrote:Essays shouldn't be a big problem for top kids. High school education is supposed to prepare you really well in writing. This is a non-issue.

Even those kids use it…I don’t understand your comment.

Unless you are shooting for T20 schools, essays are not that important anyway, AI or not.
If you are shooting for T20, and can't write a good essay, I call it a misfit.
The fact that "even those kids use it" doesn't help you. AI or not, those kids are going to write really good essays, so, a non-issue.
You are trying to make the case AI is going to change things dramatically but no it's not.

It already is…it’s called leverage. A kid that before would have only applied to 7 schools will now apply to 15 because AI can write the essays much quicker…so why not.

Also, two things can be true. That kid may be able to write an excellent essay on their own…but why bother if I can produce the finished product in one hour vs 20. Their editing skills are also likely top notch.

Finally, there are plenty of analytical high stats kids that just hate writing essays. It won’t matter much for actual college because they will be a STEM major and do just fine. Those kids will now apply to schools they probably would have passed because the essay portion will no longer be a problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Essays shouldn't be a big problem for top kids. High school education is supposed to prepare you really well in writing. This is a non-issue.

Even those kids use it…I don’t understand your comment.

Unless you are shooting for T20 schools, essays are not that important anyway, AI or not.
If you are shooting for T20, and can't write a good essay, I call it a misfit.
The fact that "even those kids use it" doesn't help you. AI or not, those kids are going to write really good essays, so, a non-issue.
You are trying to make the case AI is going to change things dramatically but no it's not.

It already is…it’s called leverage. A kid that before would have only applied to 7 schools will now apply to 15 because AI can write the essays much quicker…so why not.

Also, two things can be true. That kid may be able to write an excellent essay on their own…but why bother if I can produce the finished product in one hour vs 20. Their editing skills are also likely top notch.

Finally, there are plenty of analytical high stats kids that just hate writing essays. It won’t matter much for actual college because they will be a STEM major and do just fine. Those kids will now apply to schools they probably would have passed because the essay portion will no longer be a problem.

That's the problem. These kids don't belong there. Fit is a lot more important than ranking. They should apply to MIT, Gtech, CMU, UIUC, Pursue, state flagship, SJSU.
Look, you clearly don't have any idea how college application works. Often your post reads just like an AI post, talking non-sense solemnly. The only difference is that, Chatgpt will apologize (insincerely) to me when I point out the error, whereas you are stubborn as ever.