How many more engineering and CS majors do we need?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cs is oversaturated but engineering is underfilled as far as the job market: growth particularly in biomedical, nanotechnology (mechanical) is in high demand and will be for the next decade.

What the heck do you mean by nanotechnology (mechanical)?

--PhD in chemistry with specialization in nanotech

Ha! That is exactly what I thought when I saw "nanotechnology (mechanical)".

[Anonymous]

The colleges did this to themselves by allowing the price of a college education to skyrocket

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems like that’s all kids are majoring in. Many without the passion for it. Both fields are oversaturated with a lot of kids having no business being in these programs. Can we get a pendulum swing and have a push into humanities and trade schools?

It's all about tech and tech-adjacent fields.

Engineering and CS majors will do just fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems like that’s all kids are majoring in. Many without the passion for it. Both fields are oversaturated with a lot of kids having no business being in these programs. Can we get a pendulum swing and have a push into humanities and trade schools?

How could you possibly know what's in the heart/mind of "many"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cs is oversaturated but engineering is underfilled as far as the job market: growth particularly in biomedical, nanotechnology (mechanical) is in high demand and will be for the next decade.

What the heck do you mean by nanotechnology (mechanical)?

--PhD in chemistry with specialization in nanotech

DP. Mechanical devices made using nanometer scale components.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems like that’s all kids are majoring in. Many without the passion for it. Both fields are oversaturated with a lot of kids having no business being in these programs. Can we get a pendulum swing and have a push into humanities and trade schools?

Pay shit ton of $$$ and major in humanities ??

The two humanities grads we know (top10 undergrad) are headed to JPmorgan and harvard law. Most of their friends secured similarly impressive next-steps. The stem majors also have excellent opportunities lined up but folks do not seem surprised by stem doing well. However the stem majors from nonelite schools do much better than humanities at the same school. Major is not as important as the undergrad prestige

Schools beyond the top 10 also cost $$$. ROI in humanities is not there for the vast majority of students.

[Anonymous]

I really hope they’re taking humanities electives at least. We need more tech bros with empathy—look at the things they’re saying!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems like that’s all kids are majoring in. Many without the passion for it. Both fields are oversaturated with a lot of kids having no business being in these programs. Can we get a pendulum swing and have a push into humanities and trade schools?

It's all about tech and tech-adjacent fields.

Engineering and CS majors will do just fine.

Lots of the is being outsourced and replaced by AI. Labor market is changing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's definitely a good thing to have more stem major students, particularly in engineering. If, however, manufacturing is not coming back to the country, and egregious CS outsourcing to India continues, these graduates will have a very tough time finding jobs. Looks like MAGA is not going to change that.

India already counts 5 million developers and graduates roughly 1.5 million engineers each year. Outsourcing replaces jobs in the areas most new grads once relied on for a first job. Unless MAGA can prohibit outsourcing, I don't see a bright future for the majority of these graduates. The tippy top ones are the exception.

Indians are pouring into the U.S. with H1B visas to replace American high tech employees. Do not get the silly notion they're earning less than U.S. employees. Once they have a foothold in a company, they help each other out, will hire only fellow Indians. I would be concerned about this if I were the parent of a STEM major.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems like that’s all kids are majoring in. Many without the passion for it. Both fields are oversaturated with a lot of kids having no business being in these programs. Can we get a pendulum swing and have a push into humanities and trade schools?

It's all about tech and tech-adjacent fields.

Engineering and CS majors will do just fine.

Lots of the is being outsourced and replaced by AI. Labor market is changing.

No, jobs are not being replaced by AI. You can use AI right now. That is about as advanced as AI gets. There is no professional grade AI that gives better answers, or unlocks more advanced reasoning capability. It's capable of summarizing text and suggesting some write-ups for emails. That's about it.

Nowhere on the horizon is there some more advanced AI about to be unleashed. This is a speculative bubble on par with the old Tulip craze. You are simply parroting the words of a complicit tech media who is in on the bubble. Do not make major life decisions assuming any of this is real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cs is oversaturated but engineering is underfilled as far as the job market: growth particularly in biomedical, nanotechnology (mechanical) is in high demand and will be for the next decade.

What the heck do you mean by nanotechnology (mechanical)?

--PhD in chemistry with specialization in nanotech

DP. Mechanical devices made using nanometer scale components.

Not a thing. I specialized in molecular machines. They are nanosized, but are purely academic at this point. Zero practical applications.

By the nanometer scale, you are into the dimensions of molecules and aren't making anything you'd think of as mechanical. Those are micron sized, at the very smallest.

[Anonymous]

My boys are liberal arts majors. They had zero interest in STEM.

[Anonymous]

Everyone ignored the trade school part and went straight into circle jerking tech and engineering. My bad. I forgot DCUM would rather have their kid go to Elon or High Point than a trade school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone ignored the trade school part and went straight into circle jerking tech and engineering. My bad. I forgot DCUM would rather have their kid go to Elon or High Point than a trade school.

Hey Elon is great!

[Anonymous]

While I think education is important and community college everywhere should be free, the overeducation is causing the US to struggle in important fields. I know being a plumber isn’t as sexy as a software engineer but at least it’s a stable job and income. Too many kids saw their favorite TikTok influencer working remote and making 6 figures. The amount of CS and engineering majors graduating all can’t be quality nor should have graduated with the lax education standards since COVID.

I’ll retract my earlier statement. Forget the humanities. We need more people in trades.