High stats kid with disappointing end results?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone with high stats kids, who didn't get where you thought they should? Thought mine would land a few T25s, but didn't. She got into NYU, UMD and GWU, which are good choices but still feel a bit bummed.

Anyone experiencing this? How to get over it.

That’s not realistic for 99.8% of kids. It’s a lottery at the top.

[Anonymous]

NYU is an excellent option! Lots of employment opportunities and no one will knock that degree as run of the mill. Maybe your kid was hoping for Ivy, but there are a lot of Ivy caliber kids at NYU.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gosh ... NYU is so many kids' dream school...
I can't read this kind of post.

Oh, please. It is like someone posting that their kid can’t break above a 1450 on the SAT and you having a kid who can’t get above a 1250 so you “can’t read that kind of post.” Different kids have different goals and hopes…a high stats kid who worked for years towards a goal as the right to feel disappointed when it didn’t pan out and a safety becomes the best of the not-hoped for options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi OP, my son also is choosing between UMD Honors (in state for us), NYU and GWU interestingly! He only applied to one Ivy and two other Top 20 so was not surprised that he didn't get in, but was a tad bit disappointed. But we are all thankful that he has great options to choose from. You should be proud of your daughter!

Op here, we r OOS for UMD. What major?

Electrical Engineering for UMD (engineering for the other schools too).

[Anonymous]

it's really common, especially in competitive majors. My son graduated in 2022 at the top of his class with every award, perfect score you could think of and ONLY got into safetys. He is thriving and getting huge opportunities. There is a shift in dynamics that companies are realizing the talent is not where it used to be and he is a star student being recognized at the very top levels of his flagship university. He should have gotten in everywhere but admisssions has been very unfair for a while, nothing we can do other than if WE are hiring, know that the best students may not be at the traditional "best" schools and making different choices in our own hiring.

[Anonymous]

Yes, pretty much all the girls at our school (CT boarding school). Boys into every Ivy, MIT, Stanford, Chicago, etc. Girls left choosing between SLACs and publics.

[Anonymous]

Deferred and then waitlisted at dream Ivy and also waitlisted at another Ivy. In to one top25 state school so can't really complain. Straight A student at a private high school that rarely gives As. DCUM always says about my kid's GPA from their high school: "oh, that kind of kid will get into an Ivy or top10." Well, no.

We know a few other kids (public and private) who really, REALLY got the short end of the stick this year. My fingers are crossed that waitlists move for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gosh ... NYU is so many kids' dream school...
I can't read this kind of post.

Oh, please. It is like someone posting that their kid can’t break above a 1450 on the SAT and you having a kid who can’t get above a 1250 so you “can’t read that kind of post.” Different kids have different goals and hopes…a high stats kid who worked for years towards a goal as the right to feel disappointed when it didn’t pan out and a safety becomes the best of the not-hoped for options.

Then perhaps you as a parent (and family) need to rethink your goals. Common sense and data tell you there are way more "qualified applicants" than spots at T25 schools. Way way more. So ultimately, the vast majority are going to get Rejected. If your "really smart kid" cannot understand that going in, and recognize the goal of doing well isn't just "a prestigious school" but also to learn and to find your path in life, then you need to adjust. The 25-50 schools are FILLED with "t25 rejects", those kids excel and do great things in life. My kid is at one ranked ~40---every single one of their 20+ friends was WL or Spring admit (or fall admit sophomore year) at multiple T25 schools. Many at over 4-5 schools. Top students, great kids, doing great things at college and will continue after graduation. Why? Because they realize you don't always get what you want in life and you make the best of what you do get. And also, a school ranked 30-40 is still an amazing school that literally 95% of students who are not there would be thrilled to be capable of getting into.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gosh ... NYU is so many kids' dream school...
I can't read this kind of post.

Oh, please. It is like someone posting that their kid can’t break above a 1450 on the SAT and you having a kid who can’t get above a 1250 so you “can’t read that kind of post.” Different kids have different goals and hopes…a high stats kid who worked for years towards a goal as the right to feel disappointed when it didn’t pan out and a safety becomes the best of the not-hoped for options.

Oh please. Don’t be a white lotus. So many high stats kids didn’t get into T25, it’s just a lottery at the top. Plus NYU is really a T25 in substance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gosh ... NYU is so many kids' dream school...
I can't read this kind of post.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gosh ... NYU is so many kids' dream school...
I can't read this kind of post.

My friend's kid with 15 APs, and near perfect test scores didn't get into NYU. I get your point OP--it's hard to see your kid work so hard, and not have them get into a truly top school, but it's a crapshoot these days with admission, unless you're a legacy, recruited athlete or winner of some sort of national prize....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gosh ... NYU is so many kids' dream school...
I can't read this kind of post.

Oh, please. It is like someone posting that their kid can’t break above a 1450 on the SAT and you having a kid who can’t get above a 1250 so you “can’t read that kind of post.” Different kids have different goals and hopes…a high stats kid who worked for years towards a goal as the right to feel disappointed when it didn’t pan out and a safety becomes the best of the not-hoped for options.

Then perhaps you as a parent (and family) need to rethink your goals. Common sense and data tell you there are way more "qualified applicants" than spots at T25 schools. Way way more. So ultimately, the vast majority are going to get Rejected. If your "really smart kid" cannot understand that going in, and recognize the goal of doing well isn't just "a prestigious school" but also to learn and to find your path in life, then you need to adjust. The 25-50 schools are FILLED with "t25 rejects", those kids excel and do great things in life. My kid is at one ranked ~40---every single one of their 20+ friends was WL or Spring admit (or fall admit sophomore year) at multiple T25 schools. Many at over 4-5 schools. Top students, great kids, doing great things at college and will continue after graduation. Why? Because they realize you don't always get what you want in life and you make the best of what you do get. And also, a school ranked 30-40 is still an amazing school that literally 95% of students who are not there would be thrilled to be capable of getting into.

People are not robots. These young people, and their parents, are allowed to experience emotions. You can realize that the stats and facts are true. You can be prepared to move on with the knowledge that life is what you make. You can be disappointed, even sad, while also doing/acknowledging all of the above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gosh ... NYU is so many kids' dream school...
I can't read this kind of post.

Oh, please. It is like someone posting that their kid can’t break above a 1450 on the SAT and you having a kid who can’t get above a 1250 so you “can’t read that kind of post.” Different kids have different goals and hopes…a high stats kid who worked for years towards a goal as the right to feel disappointed when it didn’t pan out and a safety becomes the best of the not-hoped for options.

Then perhaps you as a parent (and family) need to rethink your goals. Common sense and data tell you there are way more "qualified applicants" than spots at T25 schools. Way way more. So ultimately, the vast majority are going to get Rejected. If your "really smart kid" cannot understand that going in, and recognize the goal of doing well isn't just "a prestigious school" but also to learn and to find your path in life, then you need to adjust. The 25-50 schools are FILLED with "t25 rejects", those kids excel and do great things in life. My kid is at one ranked ~40---every single one of their 20+ friends was WL or Spring admit (or fall admit sophomore year) at multiple T25 schools. Many at over 4-5 schools. Top students, great kids, doing great things at college and will continue after graduation. Why? Because they realize you don't always get what you want in life and you make the best of what you do get. And also, a school ranked 30-40 is still an amazing school that literally 95% of students who are not there would be thrilled to be capable of getting into.

People are not robots. These young people, and their parents, are allowed to experience emotions. You can realize that the stats and facts are true. You can be prepared to move on with the knowledge that life is what you make. You can be disappointed, even sad, while also doing/acknowledging all of the above.

Unrealistic expectations lead to these emotions. TBH, it’s not healthy.

[Anonymous]

I’m convinced if schools went back to providing class rank to parents, there would be a lot less of such surprising results. The colleges still calculate for admission purposes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m convinced if schools went back to providing class rank to parents, there would be a lot less of such surprising results. The colleges still calculate for admission purposes.

Bigger issue is that there aren't enough top spots for top kids. Especially this year with the expanded birth rate and the emphasis on taking FGLI and rural kids. These colleges can't fill their classes with DMV high achievers.