When will the Gonzaga waitlist move?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My impression is that the Gonzaga waitlist is easier to get off of than, say, the Visitation one. Partially because it's a bigger class. I know of several students who were initially waitlisted then got offered admission. I do think to improve waitlist chances it's important to write the secondary letter they ask for and get help from the principal (if at a K-8). I think showing real enthusiasm and saying you will definitely take a spot if offered one helps. GL to everyone.

I buy that the Visi WL moves less than the GZA one. Part of that is because GZA is bigger, but part of it is because Visi has a higher yield. It’s the overwhelming first choice of a higher percentage of applicants than Gonzaga is. Gonzaga’s percentage of these people is high, but Visi’s is higher.

In guessing at their yield from any one group of admitted freshman, the Gonzaga staff has to consider how many admits will opt instead for Prep, St Anselms, or St John’s (Md and DC) or for Ireton or O’Connell (VA)

I was surprised to find that GZA had become a safety (or alternative) school for boys who also apply to St Albans and maybe even Landon.

Why are you surprised? My son chose Gonzaga over STA and never regretted it. I know another boy that did the same a few year prior to my son.

So that’s 1 out of 250? or 00.4%?

[Anonymous]

I don't see Gonzaga as a safety school. Most people I know wanted it as their first choice. I'm sure it happens, but I don't think it's the norm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't see Gonzaga as a safety school. Most people I know wanted it as their first choice. I'm sure it happens, but I don't think it's the norm.

This Gonzaga definitely is not a safety.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see Gonzaga as a safety school. Most people I know wanted it as their first choice. I'm sure it happens, but I don't think it's the norm.

This Gonzaga definitely is not a safety.

Obviously it depends compared to what. Gonzaga is definitely not a safety for most applying to Diocese schools or the other independent Catholics. That said, the admission rate is empirically much higher at Gonzaga than, say, STA, GDS, Potomac, SFS or Maret. I totally agree that the typical applicant is applying to those very different schools, but it’s certainly not in the lowest tier of acceptance rates in the area.

[Anonymous]

Keep in mind that most Catholics don't even consider the non-Catholic schools. We don't really care what the acceptance rates are of the "Big 3/5" and would never send our kids to one. Not that there is anything wrong with them - I'm sure they are great schools. They are just not where we choose to educate our kids if we want to instill our Catholic faith.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind that most Catholics don't even consider the non-Catholic schools. We don't really care what the acceptance rates are of the "Big 3/5" and would never send our kids to one. Not that there is anything wrong with them - I'm sure they are great schools. They are just not where we choose to educate our kids if we want to instill our Catholic faith.

That’s all fine and well and understood. The PP insinuated that Gonzaga is sufficiently competitive as to not reasonably considered a “safety” by anyone. I respectfully disagree. That’s all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind that most Catholics don't even consider the non-Catholic schools. We don't really care what the acceptance rates are of the "Big 3/5" and would never send our kids to one. Not that there is anything wrong with them - I'm sure they are great schools. They are just not where we choose to educate our kids if we want to instill our Catholic faith.

That’s all fine and well and understood. The PP insinuated that Gonzaga is sufficiently competitive as to not reasonably considered a “safety” by anyone. I respectfully disagree. That’s all.

What are you even doing on this thread?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind that most Catholics don't even consider the non-Catholic schools. We don't really care what the acceptance rates are of the "Big 3/5" and would never send our kids to one. Not that there is anything wrong with them - I'm sure they are great schools. They are just not where we choose to educate our kids if we want to instill our Catholic faith.

That’s all fine and well and understood. The PP insinuated that Gonzaga is sufficiently competitive as to not reasonably considered a “safety” by anyone. I respectfully disagree. That’s all.

What are you even doing on this thread?

Are you the Swiss Guard? I’m pretty sure the threads are open but thanks for your holiness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My impression is that the Gonzaga waitlist is easier to get off of than, say, the Visitation one. Partially because it's a bigger class. I know of several students who were initially waitlisted then got offered admission. I do think to improve waitlist chances it's important to write the secondary letter they ask for and get help from the principal (if at a K-8). I think showing real enthusiasm and saying you will definitely take a spot if offered one helps. GL to everyone.

I buy that the Visi WL moves less than the GZA one. Part of that is because GZA is bigger, but part of it is because Visi has a higher yield. It’s the overwhelming first choice of a higher percentage of applicants than Gonzaga is. Gonzaga’s percentage of these people is high, but Visi’s is higher.

In guessing at their yield from any one group of admitted freshman, the Gonzaga staff has to consider how many admits will opt instead for Prep, St Anselms, or St John’s (Md and DC) or for Ireton or O’Connell (VA)

I was surprised to find that GZA had become a safety (or alternative) school for boys who also apply to St Albans and maybe even Landon.

I love these comments. Where the hell do you even get the data on yield for private schools in the DMV? Unless you work in admissions, you don't have a clue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't see Gonzaga as a safety school. Most people I know wanted it as their first choice. I'm sure it happens, but I don't think it's the norm.

This Gonzaga definitely is not a safety.

Obviously it depends compared to what. Gonzaga is definitely not a safety for most applying to Diocese schools or the other independent Catholics. That said, the admission rate is empirically much higher at Gonzaga than, say, STA, GDS, Potomac, SFS or Maret. I totally agree that the typical applicant is applying to those very different schools, but it’s certainly not in the lowest tier of acceptance rates in the area.

The only reason GZ may have a higher acceptance rate is because of the size of the class. It is significantly larger than all other private high schools in the DMV area with a class size of 250. Most are around half that or less.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind that most Catholics don't even consider the non-Catholic schools. We don't really care what the acceptance rates are of the "Big 3/5" and would never send our kids to one. Not that there is anything wrong with them - I'm sure they are great schools. They are just not where we choose to educate our kids if we want to instill our Catholic faith.

That’s all fine and well and understood. The PP insinuated that Gonzaga is sufficiently competitive as to not reasonably considered a “safety” by anyone. I respectfully disagree. That’s all.

What are you even doing on this thread?

Are you the Swiss Guard? I’m pretty sure the threads are open but thanks for your holiness.

So you’re just here, on a thread re whether the waitlist will move, to post about how you personally think Gonzaga isn’t a good enough school to be people’s first choice. You’re basically here to post rude comments. So yeah; why are you even here? To be a jerk to other people?

[Anonymous]

A little sensitive? That’s not what I said at all. All I said is that Gonzaga is the top choice for many kids and can also be pretty close to a safety school for others. Nothing more, nothing less.

Regardless of whether it’s because of size, supply vs. demand or anything else, the acceptance rate at Gonzaga allows it to be a reasonably sure thing for a very good student and is less of an admission crapshoot than some of the NWDC schools.

That doesn’t make it bad, less than, inferior, attacked or disliked. Not sure why you can’t accept that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A little sensitive? That’s not what I said at all. All I said is that Gonzaga is the top choice for many kids and can also be pretty close to a safety school for others. Nothing more, nothing less.

Regardless of whether it’s because of size, supply vs. demand or anything else, the acceptance rate at Gonzaga allows it to be a reasonably sure thing for a very good student and is less of an admission crapshoot than some of the NWDC schools.

That doesn’t make it bad, less than, inferior, attacked or disliked. Not sure why you can’t accept that.

Gonzaga is not a sure thing for any student, even someone with straight A's and 99% HSPT. Many strong students (even Catholic and coming from parochial schools) are denied admission. So a kid coming from a non Catholic or public school will certainly be less likely to gain admission even with high stats. Is it more likely than a place like Prep and STA? Yes, and that is only because of it's sheer size.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A little sensitive? That’s not what I said at all. All I said is that Gonzaga is the top choice for many kids and can also be pretty close to a safety school for others. Nothing more, nothing less.

Regardless of whether it’s because of size, supply vs. demand or anything else, the acceptance rate at Gonzaga allows it to be a reasonably sure thing for a very good student and is less of an admission crapshoot than some of the NWDC schools.

That doesn’t make it bad, less than, inferior, attacked or disliked. Not sure why you can’t accept that.

Gonzaga is not a sure thing for any student, even someone with straight A's and 99% HSPT. Many strong students (even Catholic and coming from parochial schools) are denied admission. So a kid coming from a non Catholic or public school will certainly be less likely to gain admission even with high stats. Is it more likely than a place like Prep and STA? Yes, and that is only because of it's sheer size.

Well, sheer size relative to the number of applications and there acceptance rate. Michigan and Cornell are large universities but still have very low acceptance rates. There are plenty of small schools with high acceptance rates. It’s not purely size, it’s size relative to demand and the quality of applicants.

[Anonymous]

*their acceptance rate