Why does Trump, an atheist, appeal to so many Christians?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's like how the Pharisees saw Pontius Pilate as a useful tool to do their bidding of crucifying Jesus. They like his policies, but not necessarily him.

I know plenty of Christians who like him. They are mainly white male Christians though.

I know plenty who don't, including white male Christians.

Can we all stop painting with such broad brushes and using language that over inclusively suggests "all" of anything.

seems to me that neither pp is painting with a broad Brush - just expressing their own opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do you think he's an atheist? He was baptized and confirmed in the PCUSA and continues to profess Christianity.

I'm not saying he's moral. But even if he's immoral, that doesn't make him an atheist (obviously).

Lots of people who are atheists were confirmed and baptized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Often, Christians look down on atheists, thinking they’re stupid or evil.

Meanwhile, a lot of Christians voted for Trump, an obvious atheist. Why do you think that is?

Trump is not an "obvious" atheist. He has said many times that God saved him this summer from the assassin's bullet.

Frankly, OP, how dare you judge someone else's relationship with God.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Often, Christians look down on atheists, thinking they’re stupid or evil.

Meanwhile, a lot of Christians voted for Trump, an obvious atheist. Why do you think that is?

Trump is not an "obvious" atheist. He has said many times that God saved him this summer from the assassin's bullet.

Frankly, OP, how dare you judge someone else's relationship with God.

OP did not judge anyone's relationship with God.

Just because Trump says that God saved him from an assassin's bullet doesn't mean he believes in God. Sounds like something an atheist who was trying to appeal to believers would say.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Often, Christians look down on atheists, thinking they’re stupid or evil.

Meanwhile, a lot of Christians voted for Trump, an obvious atheist. Why do you think that is?

Trump is not an "obvious" atheist. He has said many times that God saved him this summer from the assassin's bullet.

Frankly, OP, how dare you judge someone else's relationship with God.

OP did not judge anyone's relationship with God.

Just because Trump says that God saved him from an assassin's bullet doesn't mean he believes in God. Sounds like something an atheist who was trying to appeal to believers would say.

OP absolutely judged Trump's relationship with God. She called it "obviously" false. She has no idea what Trump's relationship is with God, or with Jesus Christ and had no right to make that statement about him or anyone else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Often, Christians look down on atheists, thinking they’re stupid or evil.

Meanwhile, a lot of Christians voted for Trump, an obvious atheist. Why do you think that is?

Trump is not an "obvious" atheist. He has said many times that God saved him this summer from the assassin's bullet.

Frankly, OP, how dare you judge someone else's relationship with God.

OP did not judge anyone's relationship with God.

Just because Trump says that God saved him from an assassin's bullet doesn't mean he believes in God. Sounds like something an atheist who was trying to appeal to believers would say.

OP absolutely judged Trump's relationship with God. She called it "obviously" false. She has no idea what Trump's relationship is with God, or with Jesus Christ and had no right to make that statement about him or anyone else.

Do anyone here, besides pp, think Trump is religious?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Often, Christians look down on atheists, thinking they’re stupid or evil.

Meanwhile, a lot of Christians voted for Trump, an obvious atheist. Why do you think that is?

Trump is not an "obvious" atheist. He has said many times that God saved him this summer from the assassin's bullet.

Frankly, OP, how dare you judge someone else's relationship with God.

OP did not judge anyone's relationship with God.

Just because Trump says that God saved him from an assassin's bullet doesn't mean he believes in God. Sounds like something an atheist who was trying to appeal to believers would say.

OP absolutely judged Trump's relationship with God. She called it "obviously" false. She has no idea what Trump's relationship is with God, or with Jesus Christ and had no right to make that statement about him or anyone else.

Do anyone here, besides pp, think Trump is religious?

"Religious" is a different word, and has different meaning to everyone. Does it mean you go to church? Does it mean that you are a believer? Your terminology is too general.

I have no idea what Trump's relationship with God/ Jesus Christ is, unlike OP, who claims to have the inside track. I know that he is/ has been a member of the Presbyterian Church and has been baptized.

I do know that, like all of us, he will stand accountable to God one day for his life and his faith.

[Anonymous]

It’s a trade particularly with (although not exclusively) the New Apostolic Reformation. The leaders don’t care about T’s conduct because he will institute their desired agenda. In return they vote for the regime, which enriches the oligarchs. It’s entirely transactional.

* The leaders of the New Apostolic Reformation movement adhere to dominion theology. They wish to exercise their authority over every sphere of society by taking control of political and cultural institutions. Key to this is the concept of the “Seven Mountains” strategy, a mobilizing marketing scheme to get Christians to take control of the spheres of family, religion, education, media, arts and entertainment, business and government. Trump is important for this because they see him as exemplifying how one conquers those mountains. For example, Trump is a leader in arts and entertainment. He had one of the most-watched shows, The Apprentice. When he was on Twitter, he conquered the media. In business, the Trump brand is global. So if you have him as head of the government, that will help Christians penetrate the other spheres. Their relationship with him is transactional. They need Trump. Trump needs them. They don’t mind that he’s not a moral man. That’s not important, because God chose imperfect individuals, and God’s will shall prevail.*

That’s a quote from this interview with a scholar who has studied the relationship. Here’s more of the interview:
https://broadview.org/why-white-evangelical-voters-back-trump/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Often, Christians look down on atheists, thinking they’re stupid or evil.

Meanwhile, a lot of Christians voted for Trump, an obvious atheist. Why do you think that is?

Trump is not an "obvious" atheist. He has said many times that God saved him this summer from the assassin's bullet.

Frankly, OP, how dare you judge someone else's relationship with God.

I'm assuming it's because in order to really call yourself a Christian you'd have to practice Christianity on some level. He doesn't do that with his language or deeds.

[Anonymous]

He knows how drop little pearls that some Christians want. Access to guns. No more yucky trans kids. (I'm being sarcastic ... that's how his Christian right followers think.) No brown people murdering blonde women. He inflames their fears and offers them what they want. It's sick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's like how the Pharisees saw Pontius Pilate as a useful tool to do their bidding of crucifying Jesus. They like his policies, but not necessarily him.

I know plenty of Christians who like him. They are mainly white male Christians though.

I know plenty who don't, including white male Christians.

Can we all stop painting with such broad brushes and using language that over inclusively suggests "all" of anything.

I was speaking specifically to her suggestions that Christian's don't like him as a person. I know many who do and they are within the demo I mentioned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Often, Christians look down on atheists, thinking they’re stupid or evil.

Meanwhile, a lot of Christians voted for Trump, an obvious atheist. Why do you think that is?

First OP, if your title contains a genuine earnest question, your first post negates that with a LOT of hefty assumptions upfront.

As a Christian myself, the presumption that Christians “look down on” atheists or think they are stupid or evil is bewildering to me.
I don’t think that at all. And I don’t know Christians who do.
But I know of some non-believers who think the kind thing for Christians to do is to live and let live and not attempt to share their faith.
But to a Christian—that’s like seeing that a car is about to run you down in the road, but deciding not to share that fact with you because you don’t believe in cars so we should just respect that and let the car hit you because it’s none of our business.
I mean—sure, I could do that. But you can see where it doesn’t make sense for me to keep quiet about it if I live and care about you? If it can save you—I’d rather risk offending you if there is a chance you could be saved just by my telling you to step out of the way if the incoming car.

As far as voting goes, my vote has never been tied to whether or not someone is a Christian.
The thing that bugs me about Trump is that he does not appear to be a believer and yet pretends that he knows Christ. And that’s a tricky one because I cannot truly know someone else heart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Often, Christians look down on atheists, thinking they’re stupid or evil.

Meanwhile, a lot of Christians voted for Trump, an obvious atheist. Why do you think that is?

Trump is not an "obvious" atheist. He has said many times that God saved him this summer from the assassin's bullet.

Frankly, OP, how dare you judge someone else's relationship with God.

OP did not judge anyone's relationship with God.

Just because Trump says that God saved him from an assassin's bullet doesn't mean he believes in God. Sounds like something an atheist who was trying to appeal to believers would say.

OP absolutely judged Trump's relationship with God. She called it "obviously" false. She has no idea what Trump's relationship is with God, or with Jesus Christ and had no right to make that statement about him or anyone else.

Do anyone here, besides pp, think Trump is religious?

"Religious" is a different word, and has different meaning to everyone. Does it mean you go to church? Does it mean that you are a believer? Your terminology is too general.

I have no idea what Trump's relationship with God/ Jesus Christ is, unlike OP, who claims to have the inside track. I know that he is/ has been a member of the Presbyterian Church and has been baptized.

I do know that, like all of us, he will stand accountable to God one day for his life and his faith.

Not if there's not a god, he won't. Nor will pp or anyone.

[Anonymous]

It is baffling to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Often, Christians look down on atheists, thinking they’re stupid or evil.

Meanwhile, a lot of Christians voted for Trump, an obvious atheist. Why do you think that is?

First OP, if your title contains a genuine earnest question, your first post negates that with a LOT of hefty assumptions upfront.

As a Christian myself, the presumption that Christians “look down on” atheists or think they are stupid or evil is bewildering to me.
I don’t think that at all. And I don’t know Christians who do.
But I know of some non-believers who think the kind thing for Christians to do is to live and let live and not attempt to share their faith.
But to a Christian—that’s like seeing that a car is about to run you down in the road, but deciding not to share that fact with you because you don’t believe in cars so we should just respect that and let the car hit you because it’s none of our business.
I mean—sure, I could do that. But you can see where it doesn’t make sense for me to keep quiet about it if I live and care about you? If it can save you—I’d rather risk offending you if there is a chance you could be saved just by my telling you to step out of the way if the incoming car.

As far as voting goes, my vote has never been tied to whether or not someone is a Christian.
The thing that bugs me about Trump is that he does not appear to be a believer and yet pretends that he knows Christ. And that’s a tricky one because I cannot truly know someone else heart.

Not all Christians think the way you say, nor do all atheists. There are many different kinds of religious believers. And atheists have different personalities, of course.

Seems to me, that most people, believers and non-believers think -- but don't know, of course-- that Trump is an atheist. He wouldn't be the first atheist to. pose as a Christian.