Does Racism Exist for Middle-Upper/Upper Class Americans?

Anonymous
You should ask my coworker (lawyer) who went to look at a house (with a for sale sign) and was told that there were no houses in the neighborhood for sale. She's AA. She asked me to go and look and the agent showed me the house.
Anonymous
I am black and my husband is White. We live in a very upper middle class neighbourhood and drive fairly expensive cars though just one at a time. We have lived in the US for almost 9 years. During this time my husband has been stopped by police while driving once for speeding ( he speeds a lot). I have been stopped about 6 times. For one of those times- on my neighbourhood, I was not given a reason - police just told me she wanted to "run" my licence. The other times include lights not working mainly and one speeding offence. Even my husband is persuaded that DWB is a "legitimate" offense.
As for stores, I get followed around all the tine by security.
Anonymous
I mean "offense".
Anonymous
I think SES helps lessen racism a bit, but it certainly doesn't eradicate it.
Anonymous
I (white) was riding with my boyfriend (AA). It was late and we got pulled over - the officer asked me "are you ok." As if, I wouldn't be ok riding around in my boyfriend very nice car late at night on our way home from a date.

Your husband is living in a wonderful imaginary world if he thinks racism doesn't exist. It's called "white man's world."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You should ask my coworker (lawyer) who went to look at a house (with a for sale sign) and was told that there were no houses in the neighborhood for sale. She's AA. She asked me to go and look and the agent showed me the house.


Who told this to your AA friend? The realtor?
Anonymous
I think that there's a lot white people don't realize is going on, or they don't recognize it, or they never see it.

I think the same is true for sexism. I feel that I experience it frequently in the working world, particularly in certain situations. My husband is certain it doesn't exist anymore in professional settings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You should ask my coworker (lawyer) who went to look at a house (with a for sale sign) and was told that there were no houses in the neighborhood for sale. She's AA. She asked me to go and look and the agent showed me the house.


Who told this to your AA friend? The realtor?


My friend was told (by the realtor) that there were no houses for sale where she was looking, and she saw a house right there with a "for sale sign." She asked me to go back to the same realtor (it was about a week later) and he showed me the house.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:AA mom here. Do DH and I have multiple Ivy league degrees, a lovely house in a majority white neighborhood, and great credit? Sure. Do I sometimes walk into meetings and have white men think I am there to take the meeting minutes? You bet. It is teh subtle assumptions that don't go away, no matter how successful you are.


For the record, I work in a male dominated industry, and sometimes I walk into meetings where people assume I'm there to take the meeting minutes. It's not always because you're AA.
Anonymous
A staggering number of Americans think Barack Obama is not a real American citizen and that he's a Muslim! Would those idiocies persist if he were a white guy? Hell, no.
Anonymous
For the record, I work in a male dominated industry, and sometimes I walk into meetings where people assume I'm there to take the meeting minutes. It's not always because you're AA.

I am the PP you quoted. The situations I was referring to have happened with other (white) women in the room. No one thought they were the secretary. And actually, there was one situation where a white woman and her attorney were coming in to meet with me and another colleague. She shook my colleague's hand, and ignored me. With only 4 people in the room, and 3 of them women, it was hard for me to see it as anything other than race.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What about for Asians or light-colored Hispanics? Are they in a different category of racism?

I agree that racism against blacks in this country is quantifiable, but what about "model minority" Asians?


There is a discussion in the political forum about a woman who feels that DC campaign volunteers frequently solicit her white husband but do not try to talk to her because she is asian.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You should ask my coworker (lawyer) who went to look at a house (with a for sale sign) and was told that there were no houses in the neighborhood for sale. She's AA. She asked me to go and look and the agent showed me the house.


Who told this to your AA friend? The realtor?


My friend was told (by the realtor) that there were no houses for sale where she was looking, and she saw a house right there with a "for sale sign." She asked me to go back to the same realtor (it was about a week later) and he showed me the house.


I hope you reported the realtor to the Board of Realtors. They can (and should) pull their license for crap like this.

That said, I think age group and class has a lot to do with it too. Police officers typically aren't upper or upper-middle class, and if they are the ones doing the discriminating, then that probably doesn't pertain to the discussion you're having with DH. Same goes with store security folks, too. I'm guessing you're talking more about neighbor-to-neighbor discrimination. I think there will be less and less of it as the old folks die off. Not the nicest way to put it, but let's face it, our grandparents grew up in drastically different times. Our parents might be fearful of different races if they have never, ever lived in a multiracial place.

Reminds me of the movie 'Crash'. Also, you REALLY need to watch the Cartoon Network show 'The Boondocks'.
Anonymous
Your husband DOES realize that racism is in no way a white vs black only issue, right? How about racism against hispanic people and how most look at them already assuming they came to this country illegally? How about racism against asian people? How about racism against middle-eastern people and how most look at them as if they were about to blow themselves up or hijack a plane?
Anonymous
Has your husband applied to Congressional Country Club or another large, exclusive country club in this area and listed, "Black," "Jewish," "Hispanic," "Muslim" or some other racial/ethnic/religious minority status on his application? All the $$$$$ in the world won't matter.
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