Does Racism Exist for Middle-Upper/Upper Class Americans?

[Anonymous]

I'm not sure that discrimination of any kind will ever be gone. There will always be a group who thinks that other groups have it easier, or groups that feel superior to all of the other groups. I guess that we all just take it as it comes and try to do our parts to not hate others.

[Anonymous]

10:23/10:27- You're a bit of an asshole and lacking in critical thinking skills.

"Recent statistics suggest that 70% of AAs and 30% of whites have children without the benefit of marriage."

I agree that the high incidence of out of wedlock births in the black American community is truly problematic, but if you don't understand the history that lead to this epidemic, you could always look to Professor Google to help you out. (Hint: Start with American slavery, then work your way up to segregation and integration, and certainly don't forget to read up on the War on Poverty.

Cultural practices do not exist in a vacuum. Rather than just criticizing black Americans for the shortcomings of their community, why not use critical thinking skills and consider ways these shortcomings can be combated?

And please- racism can be wiped from man's vocabulary when it ceases to exist- which will be never. Even in nations that are homogeneous racially, there is discrimination based on class/tribe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
What is troubling about your post is that even though you identify Obama and McNabb as counter examples, you go on to say "AAs do this" and "AAs do that." It's very disturbing to see how you generalize about a whole race of people but think this is okay because you said that Obama and McNabb are respectable people. This is how a distaste for certain cultural practices (and believe me I totally don't get the pants hanging below the ass) ends up being interpreted as racism -- because the way you describe these practices implies that you attribute them to all AAs.

I know I know -- you will point out that in the first paragraph you pointed out that there are good and bad people in all races. But your following paragraphs make it sound like all AAs do these things that you detest. If you don't want to be perceived as a racist, at a minimum, you need to improve your writing skills. Because the first paragraph doesn't make up for the paragraphs that follow it.

The first paragraph specifically identifies just a few of the many AAs whom I admire. I apologize if my writing suggested that I believe all or most AAs exhibit certain behaviors that I find truly disdainful.

My overall point was that in some cases the AA community has chosen to self-segregate rather than assimilate with mainstream American norms. That’s okay as long as people are willing to accept that it has been their personal choice and not something that is presently being imposed upon them.

I also apologize for past wrongs, but at some moment in time we will all have to move forward equally assuming responsibility for our current state of affairs.

By mainstream American norms, you mean white American norms, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

wow, I guess all the whites just suck in this country. We either hate blacks, asians, mexicans or anything other than our own. Maybe everyone with these problems should go back to what ever country they or their great, great grand daddy came from. I am so sure life is much better there. That's why we have such a immigration problem in the U.S. We hate everyone. People stop bitching. So the hell what if you can't get into a country club. Form your own and don't let white people join. Yes, I am white, I do not consider myself a racist at all. I have friends from all walks of life. Thankfully not one of them stand around complaining about how bad they are treated in the country.

Why are you so defensive? I am a PP in this thread who mentioned times when I have felt discriminated against or that people have made incorrect assumptions. How do you leap from statements of personal experience with some people that I or anyone else is saying "all whites just suck in this country?" Acknowledging that racism exists in the country is not the same thing as saying all whites are racist. Is everything in life always 100% perfect for you? do you never have a negative or frustrating experience? Do you never complain? If you complained about poor service in a restaurant, should someone tell you to be happy you have food to eat, and if you aren't, go back where your ancestors came from?

And people accuse racial minorities f having knee-jerk reactions . . . . .

Thank you!!!!

[Anonymous]

This thread is super depressing. I hope its not a reflection of race-relations in the US today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
What is troubling about your post is that even though you identify Obama and McNabb as counter examples, you go on to say "AAs do this" and "AAs do that." It's very disturbing to see how you generalize about a whole race of people but think this is okay because you said that Obama and McNabb are respectable people. This is how a distaste for certain cultural practices (and believe me I totally don't get the pants hanging below the ass) ends up being interpreted as racism -- because the way you describe these practices implies that you attribute them to all AAs.

I know I know -- you will point out that in the first paragraph you pointed out that there are good and bad people in all races. But your following paragraphs make it sound like all AAs do these things that you detest. If you don't want to be perceived as a racist, at a minimum, you need to improve your writing skills. Because the first paragraph doesn't make up for the paragraphs that follow it.

The first paragraph specifically identifies just a few of the many AAs whom I admire. I apologize if my writing suggested that I believe all or most AAs exhibit certain behaviors that I find truly disdainful.

My overall point was that in some cases the AA community has chosen to self-segregate rather than assimilate with mainstream American norms. That’s okay as long as people are willing to accept that it has been their personal choice and not something that is presently being imposed upon them.

I also apologize for past wrongs, but at some moment in time we will all have to move forward equally assuming responsibility for our current state of affairs.

This is a very simplistic view of something that is very complex. Your problem is you seem to like fixating on what 'the AA community' has chosen. PLenty of Blacks do not fit your description of what you find disdainful. And plenty of people that are not Black do. People are individuals. Treat them accordingly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My overall point was that in some cases the AA community has chosen to self-segregate rather than assimilate with mainstream American norms.

In what areas do you think the "AA community" is self-segregating?

What are the "mainstream American norms" this insiduous "AA community" are not assimilating with?

[Anonymous]

"This thread is super depressing. I hope its not a reflection of race-relations in the US today. "

Child, it's much, much worse than you will ever know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My overall point was that in some cases the AA community has chosen to self-segregate rather than assimilate with mainstream American norms.

In what areas do you think the "AA community" is self-segregating?

What are the "mainstream American norms" this insiduous "AA community" are not assimilating with?

To piggyback off of this, do you really believe that the "AA community" is the only community that self-segregates? (Hint: It's not the only one!)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is super depressing. I hope its not a reflection of race-relations in the US today.

This, and things people say in other threads on DCUM under the cloak of anonymity, make me worry that people I interact with on a daily basis think racist thoughts even though don't say those things to myface.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"This thread is super depressing. I hope its not a reflection of race-relations in the US today. "

Child, it's much, much worse than you will ever know.

Yeah, save for "You're just saying all whites suck, go back to Africa/Asia/wherever" and "I do not hate black people, I just hate what they do," this discussion has been quite nice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:wow, I guess all the whites just suck in this country. We either hate blacks, asians, mexicans or anything other than our own. Maybe everyone with these problems should go back to what ever country they or their great, great grand daddy came from. I am so sure life is much better there. That's why we have such a immigration problem in the U.S. We hate everyone. People stop bitching. So the hell what if you can't get into a country club. Form your own and don't let white people join. Yes, I am white, I do not consider myself a racist at all. I have friends from all walks of life. Thankfully not one of them stand around complaining about how bad they are treated in the country.

You may be right but have you thought that maybe they're saying it when you're not around? Can you be sure they're not thinking this?

[Anonymous]

I'm not racist. I hate everyone equally.

[Anonymous]

14:44, his birth certificate was made available early in the campaign. The hospital cannot send out a birth certificate to every birther believer + birther curious person who requests it. They have other current + former patients who require their attention. The hospital already got the GOP guv to shield them from these unnecessary requests.

Why do folks have a hard time accepting that the president is a US citizen born in this country?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:14:44, his birth certificate was made available early in the campaign. The hospital cannot send out a birth certificate to every birther believer + birther curious person who requests it. They have other current + former patients who require their attention. The hospital already got the GOP guv to shield them from these unnecessary requests.

Why do folks have a hard time accepting that the president is a US citizen born in this country?

I don't know why they have a hard time.