Pool size for TPMS and Eastern lotteries

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Random question: Does anyone know how many kids are in the lottery pools for the TPMS and Eastern magnet programs? Thanks!

The pool is of the top 15%. There are around 12k students per grade, so 12k * 0.15 is the pool size.

thats MCPS total

[Anonymous]

Is it pool size you’re looking for or the number that they allow in?

[Anonymous]

Eastern had about 120 seats. Don't know the others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How many seats are there? TPMS 100 EMS 100 MLKMS 50 RCMS 50 ?

I thought MLK and RCMS admit about 70-90.

[Anonymous]

TPMS and Eastern serve about 2/3 of the county schools, so there are likely around 1200 kids in the lottery pool (2/3 of the top 15% of kids in the grade). This is for around 200-230 spots. That said, many kids turn their spots down so chances of getting a spot in at least one of the programs is likely much higher than 1/6.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Random question: Does anyone know how many kids are in the lottery pools for the TPMS and Eastern magnet programs? Thanks!

The pool is of the top 15%. There are around 12k students per grade, so 12k * 0.15 is the pool size.

thats MCPS total

Well TPMS feeds from roughly 0.75 of the MCPS pop so you can figure it out from there but the other 0.25 goes to some other STEM magnet so not sure this really matters and same is true for eastern

[Anonymous]

It’s not just the top 15 percent. They also have to have had all As in the prior year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not just the top 15 percent. They also have to have had all As in the prior year.

That is not hard to do, particularly in ES.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TPMS and Eastern serve about 2/3 of the county schools, so there are likely around 1200 kids in the lottery pool (2/3 of the top 15% of kids in the grade). This is for around 200-230 spots. That said, many kids turn their spots down so chances of getting a spot in at least one of the programs is likely much higher than 1/6.

The number of kids turning down their spots likely varies significantly by location. We’re in the DCC and everyone we know who got a spot took it (12+ kids). And I don’t believe for a second MCPS doesn’t take location into account when extending offers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not just the top 15 percent. They also have to have had all As in the prior year.

That is not hard to do, particularly in ES.

Disagree with you about it being so easy to get straight As in ES. My DC was admitted to TPMS a few years before the lottery system was implemented, with a B in their 5th grade science class. It was a class that met only twice a week, and where the teacher basically just gave them some materials and said ‘do something with this.’ The teacher themself told me that a third of the class got a B, and this was at a CES. There is nothing wrong my DC’s science abilities. They got straight As all the way through at TPMS. I thank god every damn day that they were considered for TPMS under the old system, and feel terrible for kids under the current lottery system, who get knocked out if the lottery pool for getting a B in math or science, regardless of their other qualifications.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not just the top 15 percent. They also have to have had all As in the prior year.

which is pretty much everyone so 15%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not just the top 15 percent. They also have to have had all As in the prior year.

That is not hard to do, particularly in ES.

Disagree with you about it being so easy to get straight As in ES. My DC was admitted to TPMS a few years before the lottery system was implemented, with a B in their 5th grade science class. It was a class that met only twice a week, and where the teacher basically just gave them some materials and said ‘do something with this.’ The teacher themself told me that a third of the class got a B, and this was at a CES. There is nothing wrong my DC’s science abilities. They got straight As all the way through at TPMS. I thank god every damn day that they were considered for TPMS under the old system, and feel terrible for kids under the current lottery system, who get knocked out if the lottery pool for getting a B in math or science, regardless of their other qualifications.

The current system isn't a lottery but a lottery of the very top kids. It's probably more fair than the old system which was easily gamed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not just the top 15 percent. They also have to have had all As in the prior year.

That is not hard to do, particularly in ES.

Disagree with you about it being so easy to get straight As in ES. My DC was admitted to TPMS a few years before the lottery system was implemented, with a B in their 5th grade science class. It was a class that met only twice a week, and where the teacher basically just gave them some materials and said ‘do something with this.’ The teacher themself told me that a third of the class got a B, and this was at a CES. There is nothing wrong my DC’s science abilities. They got straight As all the way through at TPMS. I thank god every damn day that they were considered for TPMS under the old system, and feel terrible for kids under the current lottery system, who get knocked out if the lottery pool for getting a B in math or science, regardless of their other qualifications.

The current system isn't a lottery but a lottery of the very top kids. It's probably more fair than the old system which was easily gamed.

Pp here. My point is that it’s NOT a lottery of ALL the very top kids, if talented kids with a single B don’t even make the lottery pool. Under the old system there were five or six data points that were evaluated, and the MCPS materials noted very clearly that no one would be knocked out of the running for being low on a single criterion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not just the top 15 percent. They also have to have had all As in the prior year.

That is not hard to do, particularly in ES.

So? It’s not 100 percent. That requirement will reduce the number of people in the pool so that it’s less than the top 15 percent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not just the top 15 percent. They also have to have had all As in the prior year.

which is pretty much everyone so 15%

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No it is not.