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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Relax everyone. There were no massive purges last time. There will not be any this time. Yes, life will be more diffficult, particularly at some of the more politicized agencies like EPA and DOJ. But they will not get rid of a large portion of the government.

You sound very naive.

Do you recognize they will be more prepared and organized this time, and they've been planning for this? (Unlike 2016 when he was a longshot).

They have the courts now.

In his first term he had some legit Rs (all the ones who came out against him in this election), now it will just be fringe ppl and Elon etc.

This. That was the point of project 2025, how crazy conservatives planned to take advantage of this scenario to put in their long dreamed of plans. Add in some narcissistic psychopaths with personal benefit from such changes (getting out of prosecutions and investigations and fines) such as the man himself and Musk, you have a recipe for real damage and a tired/disconnected electorate with no energy or enthusiasm to fight back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Relax everyone. There were no massive purges last time. There will not be any this time. Yes, life will be more diffficult, particularly at some of the more politicized agencies like EPA and DOJ. But they will not get rid of a large portion of the government.

You sound very naive.

Do you recognize they will be more prepared and organized this time, and they've been planning for this? (Unlike 2016 when he was a longshot).

They have the courts now.

In his first term he had some legit Rs (all the ones who came out against him in this election), now it will just be fringe ppl and Elon etc.

They have the Supreme Court, but if Trump starts mass firings outside of civil service rules, those cases will go to MSPB and/or area district courts.

Sure! And then the Supreme Court finds a way to hack away at an independent civil service as a concept because they don’t think the administrative state has any basis in the constitution and a whole pile of decisions to fight union protections.

[Anonymous]

A big factor in this is how many Senate seats the Republicans get. If it’s just 52, then the few sane Republicans could block the worst nominations. If 54 or 55, all bets are off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The absolute hack job that is going to happen to the federal bureaucracy is the best thing that will come out of the next four years.

- a former bureaucrat

You might be right. But then again, why didn’t he do it during his first term?

They have experience now. And if they won Congress, they may now need executive orders to go after the bureaucratic state. They will go after agencies and programmes that don't align with their political views. And now Wall street has an ally that will remove the handcuffs on them. Big tech is thrilled because your data privacy is now a thing of the past. It's unfortunate but it is what is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A big factor in this is how many Senate seats the Republicans get. If it’s just 52, then the few sane Republicans could block the worst nominations. If 54 or 55, all bets are off.

You are assuming that any sane republicans would stand up. They won’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A big factor in this is how many Senate seats the Republicans get. If it’s just 52, then the few sane Republicans could block the worst nominations. If 54 or 55, all bets are off.

You are assuming that any sane republicans would stand up. They won’t.

And we quote: https://x.com/atrupar/status/1854156052192698675?s=46

“ Marco Rubio on CNN on if the Senate would confirm RFK Jr: "Well, I think the Senate is gonna give great deference to a president that just won a stunning what I think is an electoral college landslide when all is said and done, and a mandate."”

[Anonymous]

Wouldn’t trump want to keep the admin state now? He can just take it over. Why would he give away all his power to the other branches?

[Anonymous]

I don’t suppose there’s any chance Biden will “forget” to waive FEPCA as a final FU? There’s gotta be some way to find a silver lining on this cloud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Relax everyone. There were no massive purges last time. There will not be any this time. Yes, life will be more diffficult, particularly at some of the more politicized agencies like EPA and DOJ. But they will not get rid of a large portion of the government.

You sound very naive.

Do you recognize they will be more prepared and organized this time, and they've been planning for this? (Unlike 2016 when he was a longshot).

They have the courts now.

In his first term he had some legit Rs (all the ones who came out against him in this election), now it will just be fringe ppl and Elon etc.

They have the Supreme Court, but if Trump starts mass firings outside of civil service rules, those cases will go to MSPB and/or area district courts.

The composition of all the courts will continue to change, he appoints judges to all of them not just the Supreme Court.

Also what do you think happens to district court decisions? They can be appealed all the way up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t trump want to keep the admin state now? He can just take it over. Why would he give away all his power to the other branches?

They would want to remove career civil servants and install cronies and let the pillaging begin. Inspector general officers going first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t suppose there’s any chance Biden will “forget” to waive FEPCA as a final FU? There’s gotta be some way to find a silver lining on this cloud.

The president has immunity now supposedly.

[Anonymous]

When does the filibuster go?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A big factor in this is how many Senate seats the Republicans get. If it’s just 52, then the few sane Republicans could block the worst nominations. If 54 or 55, all bets are off.

You are assuming that any sane republicans would stand up. They won’t.

Why bother with the official nomination and confirmation process? Didn’t Trump disregard how long someone could act in these positions last time? The enforcer of the rules is Congress and they won’t do anything to stop Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So let’s say he does something drastic, can someone explain how it works. Is this the RIF process that I sometimes hear about? And what happens to employees eliminated in a RIF?

There are a bunch of rules around how you run a RIF but basically it takes a long time and it’s done by protected class, basically last in first out. I would be worried if I were a brand new fed, those with the longest tenure are last to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since it is likely Trump will what, what is the outlook for keeping federal jobs?

Bye to remote working... Hybrid the most!