New special Ed teachers from Philippines

[Anonymous]

Another article from Arizona about the transition. I hope the teachers in MCPS are having a good experience! welcome. We appreciate you if any of you are on this board.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/10/02/teacher-shortage-bullhead-city-arizona/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am in PGCPS, middle school. PGCPS partnered with Spain to bring teachers over and MCPS partnered with the Philippines. The PGCPS teachers that came from Spain, at the school I work at, are struggling. I talked to one just yesterday and she said she goes home and cry every day. I felt so bad for her. She said that they did not have behavior problems over there. She said that over here, you can not even teach because you have to deal with behaviors. She said she rather be a waitress. There is no help for them like the county promised them. A lot of them have VERY thick accents that makes it hard for the students to understand when they are taught a lesson. A lot of times she butchers certain words or use the wrong terminology which confuses the students a lot. I see the way the students treat her and honestly, it is disgusting. Most parents would be mortified if they knew. They are not all singles like someone else mentioned. We actually have a lot of married couples from Spain that teach in the county. There is just too many barriers for them. They end up being babysitters instead of teachers. The school system sucks people. I have taught in it for 10 years. It is bad, real bad. Please, sit in on your childs classes. I say it every time I get on here. Sit in and see what it is like. They are not learning. They are not thriving.

Wow! It is weird to just throw them in with no support. American high schools are like the Wild West unlike most other countries. There is almost zero discipline in Maryland public schools. Not sure if it is as bad in other states

[Anonymous]

We have one in my elementary school and she's so lost as a special education teacher. She's used to kids sitting perfectly still in desks and listening while she stands at a chalkboard. That's not our education system. The woman looks like she's going to cry daily. I feel terrible for her. She also left behind her toddlers back home with no idea of when she will see them again. I know MCPS was trying to make our staffing numbers look good to the public but this is not helping anyone in the long run.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The public education budget sucks. There are no resources.

MCPS starting salary is $62k and goes up to $127k with experience and qualifications. That's to work 10 months/year.

The median household income in MoCo is $125k, so a couple right out of college would earn a bit more than the median household income in MoCo, for 10 months of work.

It's not amazing, but I'd say that's not bad either.

https://data.census.gov/profile/Montgomery_County,_Maryland?g=050XX00US24031

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/ersc/employees/pay/schedules/salary_schedule_current.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The public education budget sucks. There are no resources.

MCPS starting salary is $62k and goes up to $127k with experience and qualifications. That's to work 10 months/year.

The median household income in MoCo is $125k, so a couple right out of college would earn a bit more than the median household income in MoCo, for 10 months of work.

It's not amazing, but I'd say that's not bad either.

https://data.census.gov/profile/Montgomery_County,_Maryland?g=050XX00US24031

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/ersc/employees/pay/schedules/salary_schedule_current.pdf

So good no one wants to do it!

[Anonymous]

PP- the paycheck will never be enough for people to put up with what they go in schools these days. They could double the pay and still have vacancies. If you’ve seen what’s behind the curtain, you won’t care if they raise the pay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has America churned, burned, and harassed all of our own human capital out of the profession that we have to outsource now? This will not make teaching more desirable but now we can open our dirty American secrets up to the international community about how dysfunction, predatory, and pathetic our education system is. Good luck teachers. Don't let the admin bastards get you down.

Correct.

The public education budget sucks. There are no resources. This already causes teacher stress. Then on top of this vicious parents attack teachers for not providing those resources that do not exist. This causes teachers to quit. It’s happening.

Not true. The budget is fine. MCPS spends a very reasonable amount per pupil.

The problem is that the school system wastes money and is completely mismanaged. Plus, there is no accountability.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think they are even that great for the US education system. Who’s winning here? Both sides frustrated.
It’s not sitting perfectly still and staring at a chalkboard here as someone put it.

[Anonymous]

The school system sucks people. I have taught in it for 10 years. It is bad, real bad. Please, sit in on your childs classes. I say it every time I get on here. Sit in and see what it is like. They are not learning. They are not thriving.

+1
I've also been a teacher for a decade. Most people have NO idea how much time is wasted. For every six hours your child spends at school, there is less than an hour, and likely less than 30 minutes, of actual learning and practice and growth happening.

It is mostly keeping the kids safe (kind of) so their parents can work. That's not the goal, but that's what happens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The public education budget sucks. There are no resources.

MCPS starting salary is $62k and goes up to $127k with experience and qualifications. That's to work 10 months/year.

The median household income in MoCo is $125k, so a couple right out of college would earn a bit more than the median household income in MoCo, for 10 months of work.

It's not amazing, but I'd say that's not bad either.

https://data.census.gov/profile/Montgomery_County,_Maryland?g=050XX00US24031

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/ersc/employees/pay/schedules/salary_schedule_current.pdf

Tell the whole story. 127k AFTER 25 years and only if you have a Master's PLUS 60 additional credits. The equivalent of 3 Master's... 🙄

[Anonymous]

Apart from the lack of discipline here in many American schools, adjusting shouldn't be terribly difficult. The U.S. set up the public educational system in the Philippines when it was a colony. English is also the lingua franca there and taught from a very young age, used for official government proceedings, street signage, etc.

Filipino teachers have been responding to staffing shortages here for decades. I wish them all the best in MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The public education budget sucks. There are no resources.

MCPS starting salary is $62k and goes up to $127k with experience and qualifications. That's to work 10 months/year.

The median household income in MoCo is $125k, so a couple right out of college would earn a bit more than the median household income in MoCo, for 10 months of work.

It's not amazing, but I'd say that's not bad either.

https://data.census.gov/profile/Montgomery_County,_Maryland?g=050XX00US24031

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/ersc/employees/pay/schedules/salary_schedule_current.pdf

Tell the whole story. 127k AFTER 25 years and only if you have a Master's PLUS 60 additional credits. The equivalent of 3 Master's... 🙄

Give its a 10 month job, its actually pretty good compared to other county jobs with masters degrees - social work, public health, nurses, etc. That's why they cannot fill those positions either. Less benefits, less pay, 12 months. When I worked for the county, I quit with my first child as we couldn't afford day care on my salary it was so low and I couldn't get to the day care by 5:30 as I often worked till 6:30-7 or later (with no compensation or comp time). My take home would have been more than my child care. I suspect its the same for teachers, especially after two young kids. County should offer child care to lower income employees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The public education budget sucks. There are no resources.

MCPS starting salary is $62k and goes up to $127k with experience and qualifications. That's to work 10 months/year.

The median household income in MoCo is $125k, so a couple right out of college would earn a bit more than the median household income in MoCo, for 10 months of work.

It's not amazing, but I'd say that's not bad either.

https://data.census.gov/profile/Montgomery_County,_Maryland?g=050XX00US24031

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/ersc/employees/pay/schedules/salary_schedule_current.pdf

They also get an amazing pension, and it seems like a lot less than 10 months. My kids teachers are out a few days a month so seems more like 9 months when you include the leave that most take.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The public education budget sucks. There are no resources.

MCPS starting salary is $62k and goes up to $127k with experience and qualifications. That's to work 10 months/year.

The median household income in MoCo is $125k, so a couple right out of college would earn a bit more than the median household income in MoCo, for 10 months of work.

It's not amazing, but I'd say that's not bad either.

https://data.census.gov/profile/Montgomery_County,_Maryland?g=050XX00US24031

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/ersc/employees/pay/schedules/salary_schedule_current.pdf

They also get an amazing pension, and it seems like a lot less than 10 months. My kids teachers are out a few days a month so seems more like 9 months when you include the leave that most take.

Yet the vacancies persist. Very few people will actually get to the pension especially if they start teaching now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has America churned, burned, and harassed all of our own human capital out of the profession that we have to outsource now? This will not make teaching more desirable but now we can open our dirty American secrets up to the international community about how dysfunction, predatory, and pathetic our education system is. Good luck teachers. Don't let the admin bastards get you down.

Correct.

The public education budget sucks. There are no resources. This already causes teacher stress. Then on top of this vicious parents attack teachers for not providing those resources that do not exist. This causes teachers to quit. It’s happening.

What does this mean? Is it on the SAI vocab?