New special Ed teachers from Philippines

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The public education budget sucks. There are no resources.


MCPS starting salary is $62k and goes up to $127k with experience and qualifications. That's to work 10 months/year.

The median household income in MoCo is $125k, so a couple right out of college would earn a bit more than the median household income in MoCo, for 10 months of work.

It's not amazing, but I'd say that's not bad either.

https://data.census.gov/profile/Montgomery_County,_Maryland?g=050XX00US24031

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/ersc/employees/pay/schedules/salary_schedule_current.pdf



They also get an amazing pension, and it seems like a lot less than 10 months. My kids teachers are out a few days a month so seems more like 9 months when you include the leave that most take.


The amazing pension is gone under the new system - of those who have been in since 10-ish years ago get that. They are not "out" a few days a month for vacation, they are pulled for IEP meetings and other meetings where their attendance is required.

Seriously people, if this was such a great job, people would be clamoring for it instead of most quitting within 5 years, many sooner. And we wouldn't have to bring in those from overseas


You are conflating working conditions with compensation. Higher compensation can't fix working conditions. If the working conditions are that bad (and it sounds like for many teachers, they are pretty bad) more money is not going to help retain people.

Stop complaining about the pension. Most of the decrease in the pension benefit for people hired in 2011 was made up for by increases in the county supplement to the pension (MCPS is the only school system in the state that supplements the state pension). People who retired prior to 1999 got 1.8% times years of service times average salary for last 3 years. In 1999 the county supplement added 0.08% and in 2006 that was increased to 0.2%, so a total of 2%. Then for people hired in 2011 or later, the state pension was reduced to 1.5%, so they got 1.5% plus the county supplement for a total of 1.7%. So 0.1% lower than the pension for people who retired before 1999. Meanwhile, life expectancy has increased so the pension costs for people hired in 2011 or later will probably be significantly higher than those for people who retired before 1999. Pension costs are eating up the budget as it is and it's only going to get worse.


You are cherry picking data. Teachers hired after July 2011 have to work five years longer and will get about 20% less in retirement from the state when they do retire compared to staff hired in the state prior to July 2011. The supplementary pension (.5% taken from salary) is not nearly enough to make up for that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

The public education budget sucks. There are no resources.


MCPS starting salary is $62k and goes up to $127k with experience and qualifications. That's to work 10 months/year.

The median household income in MoCo is $125k, so a couple right out of college would earn a bit more than the median household income in MoCo, for 10 months of work.

It's not amazing, but I'd say that's not bad either.

https://data.census.gov/profile/Montgomery_County,_Maryland?g=050XX00US24031

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/ersc/employees/pay/schedules/salary_schedule_current.pdf



They also get an amazing pension, and it seems like a lot less than 10 months. My kids teachers are out a few days a month so seems more like 9 months when you include the leave that most take.


The amazing pension is gone under the new system - of those who have been in since 10-ish years ago get that. They are not "out" a few days a month for vacation, they are pulled for IEP meetings and other meetings where their attendance is required.

Seriously people, if this was such a great job, people would be clamoring for it instead of most quitting within 5 years, many sooner. And we wouldn't have to bring in those from overseas


So they have to work more than 20 years to get 50% of their pay for life now?


"Age plus years of service equals 90" is the rule for new staff since 2011. So it's usually 30 to 40 years of service before reaching full retirement age. New staff realize that is a long time to be an unhappy teacher.
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The sad reality is that these pholapeno ladies will be harassed just like Americans but those kids will take new jobs at racism and cultural intolerance. University does not prepare us for this either especially in systems that ignore and coverup serious infractions at the detriment of honest teachers
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Here is a story about teachers who came to DCPS from other countries:
https://dcist.com/story/24/02/22/dc-attorney-general-foreign-exchange-teachers/
Anonymous
No update on those teachers who are currently working in MCPS?
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Special Ed teachers shortage. Haven't heard other things.
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Are they in HS classrooms too?
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University Schools of education across the country are struggling financially because enrollment in teacher education programs are at an all time low- American University announced this week that their SOE is closing. Johns Hopkins SOE is staffed w scores of adjuncts. Young people in US dont want to be teachers. Average teacher age in US, like nurses, 40s. What is going to happen in next few years as people retire out….
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Anonymous wrote:University Schools of education across the country are struggling financially because enrollment in teacher education programs are at an all time low- American University announced this week that their SOE is closing. Johns Hopkins SOE is staffed w scores of adjuncts. Young people in US dont want to be teachers. Average teacher age in US, like nurses, 40s. What is going to happen in next few years as people retire out….


Most people going into teaching could not afford AU or the loans.
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Anonymous wrote:University Schools of education across the country are struggling financially because enrollment in teacher education programs are at an all time low- American University announced this week that their SOE is closing. Johns Hopkins SOE is staffed w scores of adjuncts. Young people in US dont want to be teachers. Average teacher age in US, like nurses, 40s. What is going to happen in next few years as people retire out….


Most people going into teaching could not afford AU or the loans.


I’m not sure why you would think that. My DD is an ed major and we’re quite able to afford college… OOS, no less.

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Think about it: low pay, what was once an excellent choice for retirement is no longer, and heaps of abuse by students and their parents.

Is this a vocation you would encourage your child to follow?
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Anonymous wrote:University Schools of education across the country are struggling financially because enrollment in teacher education programs are at an all time low- American University announced this week that their SOE is closing. Johns Hopkins SOE is staffed w scores of adjuncts. Young people in US dont want to be teachers. Average teacher age in US, like nurses, 40s. What is going to happen in next few years as people retire out….


Most people going into teaching could not afford AU or the loans.


I’m not sure why you would think that. My DD is an ed major and we’re quite able to afford college… OOS, no less.



Exactly, it’s for kids of rich parents who can pay. Then there is everyone else who cannot.
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Anonymous wrote:University Schools of education across the country are struggling financially because enrollment in teacher education programs are at an all time low- American University announced this week that their SOE is closing. Johns Hopkins SOE is staffed w scores of adjuncts. Young people in US dont want to be teachers. Average teacher age in US, like nurses, 40s. What is going to happen in next few years as people retire out….


Most people going into teaching could not afford AU or the loans.


I’m not sure why you would think that. My DD is an ed major and we’re quite able to afford college… OOS, no less.



Exactly, it’s for kids of rich parents who can pay. Then there is everyone else who cannot.


And how is that different from other majors?

It’s a guaranteed job out of college. That’s not the case for many, many majors out there.
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Anonymous wrote:University Schools of education across the country are struggling financially because enrollment in teacher education programs are at an all time low- American University announced this week that their SOE is closing. Johns Hopkins SOE is staffed w scores of adjuncts. Young people in US dont want to be teachers. Average teacher age in US, like nurses, 40s. What is going to happen in next few years as people retire out….


Most people going into teaching could not afford AU or the loans.


I’m not sure why you would think that. My DD is an ed major and we’re quite able to afford college… OOS, no less.



American is a private school. Makes no difference if you are OOS.
Anonymous
Teachers are telling their kids absolutely not to go into teaching. It has to do with behavior issues are not being addressed by administration and all the extra busy work/meetings/documentation that really are a waste of time.
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