Kid didn’t finish MAP-R?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid would often take multiple sessions. They were a 99%ile scorer pretty often. The test goes and goes and goes until it feels the kid is out of their depth.

So if a child finishes test early, does that means it is more likely low scores? The longer tests you take, the higher the scores?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some schools will rush kids through. DC's did. The only kids allowed to continue later were those with extended time. The others were told just to hurry and flip through the questions until the test ended.

That is not true.
If a kid doesn't finish MAP, they take it another day.

Our kid’s teacher said she would not allow extra time if they don’t finish by the end of class. It doesn’t seem right that some teachers allow extra time and others do not. I hope the district will make sure all teachers follow the same rules in administering the test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid would often take multiple sessions. They were a 99%ile scorer pretty often. The test goes and goes and goes until it feels the kid is out of their depth.

So if a child finishes test early, does that means it is more likely low scores? The longer tests you take, the higher the scores?

No—there is a specific number of questions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid would often take multiple sessions. They were a 99%ile scorer pretty often. The test goes and goes and goes until it feels the kid is out of their depth.

So if a child finishes test early, does that means it is more likely low scores? The longer tests you take, the higher the scores?

My kid’s score was always highest at the beginning of the year. He didn’t know what his new teacher would allow them to do once they finished the test. Once he saw the teacher allowed gaming on the laptop when you finished, he’d start getting questions wrong just so he could finish and play games.

[Anonymous]

Are MAP R tests multiple choices or requires kid to type out answers using keyboard for 3rd grader?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Normally how long does it take to finish MAP R test for 3rd grader? Will there be a score at the end shown on the screen? My child likes to rush to finish test to play games on chromebook. She finished MAP M test in less than 30 mins, and I bet she rushed through it.

The MAP test automatically flags score reports when rapid guessing is detected.

https://connection.nwea.org/s/article/FAQ-Invalidation-reasons-and-rapid-guessing-information?language=en_US

I don't know if teachers do anything with this info, like re-testing.

30 minutes is probably low effort, not rapid guessing, though.

[Anonymous]

It's not timed, and the better a child does, the harder the questions get - kids who don't do as well the test assesses their abilities sooner (this doesn't mean that kids who don't take a long time aren't doing well, it's just one measure of ability).

Your daughter is getting into the harder questions, and therefore needs more time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some schools will rush kids through. DC's did. The only kids allowed to continue later were those with extended time. The others were told just to hurry and flip through the questions until the test ended.

That is not true.
If a kid doesn't finish MAP, they take it another day.

Our kid’s teacher said she would not allow extra time if they don’t finish by the end of class. It doesn’t seem right that some teachers allow extra time and others do not. I hope the district will make sure all teachers follow the same rules in administering the test.

That doesn't really make sense because if that happens then the test will be incomplete and not scored.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not timed, and the better a child does, the harder the questions get - kids who don't do as well the test assesses their abilities sooner (this doesn't mean that kids who don't take a long time aren't doing well, it's just one measure of ability).

Your daughter is getting into the harder questions, and therefore needs more time.

The test is adaptive so the test is approximately equally hard for everyone.
It takes longer if kids put effort into trying harder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some schools will rush kids through. DC's did. The only kids allowed to continue later were those with extended time. The others were told just to hurry and flip through the questions until the test ended.

That is not true.
If a kid doesn't finish MAP, they take it another day.

Our kid’s teacher said she would not allow extra time if they don’t finish by the end of class. It doesn’t seem right that some teachers allow extra time and others do not. I hope the district will make sure all teachers follow the same rules in administering the test.

That doesn't really make sense because if that happens then the test will be incomplete and not scored.

That’s good to know—thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some schools will rush kids through. DC's did. The only kids allowed to continue later were those with extended time. The others were told just to hurry and flip through the questions until the test ended.

That is not true.
If a kid doesn't finish MAP, they take it another day.

Our kid’s teacher said she would not allow extra time if they don’t finish by the end of class. It doesn’t seem right that some teachers allow extra time and others do not. I hope the district will make sure all teachers follow the same rules in administering the test.

It is an h timed test. If the kid doesn’t finish it in first session, school will have to find a time to finish it so it can be scored. I would reach out to teacher about it and if she insists then to the reading specialist for clarification.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid would often take multiple sessions. They were a 99%ile scorer pretty often. The test goes and goes and goes until it feels the kid is out of their depth.

Just as a heads up, NWEA changed their algorithms this year on the MAP tests. Their algorithms now emphasize grade level standards and curriculum. This means that if I child is in sixth grade for instance, they're going to get A LOT of sixth grade questions. More so than before where it was just straight up ability/knowledge of the student with no limit to being given higher grade level questions. Because of this focus on grade-level material, there is less opportunity for children who generally test higher to get tougher, above grade level questions, resulting in lower scores.

My child had their MAP-R test this week. They normally score 98-99th percentile. They said the screen to log in noticeably said "grade 6" with everyone's names when it never was linked to a grade level before. The test they said was noticeably easier, yet their score dropped about ten points. Everyone in the school was upset, many were crying, and it was the talk of lunch because everyone's scores dropped dramatically (many had drops of 17 points, over 20 points, etc). These kids were those who were scoring very high on MAP-R, had been in CES and/or enrichment the previous year.

It looks like the algorithm change also impacts MAP-M. My child has not finished, but they score 99th percentile and they said the questions were a lot easier than they normally are, and that so far, they were all 6th grade level questions or thereabouts (pythagorean theorem, interquartile ranges, dividing fractions, etc). They kept waiting to get trigonometry questions, like they got last spring, but it hasn't gotten any harder yet. So we anticipate that math scores will go down as well.

Just be prepared if your child's score drops, as it isn't necessarily their effort as much as the algorithm changes now being used by NWEA.

https://njgifted.org/understanding-nwea-maprit-scores/
https://ecragroup.com/2024/05/02/nwea-map-growth-assessment-changes-for-the-2024-2025-school-year/#:~:text=NWEA%20has%20changed%20its%20item,by%20the%20current%20test%20version.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid would often take multiple sessions. They were a 99%ile scorer pretty often. The test goes and goes and goes until it feels the kid is out of their depth.

Just as a heads up, NWEA changed their algorithms this year on the MAP tests. Their algorithms now emphasize grade level standards and curriculum. This means that if I child is in sixth grade for instance, they're going to get A LOT of sixth grade questions. More so than before where it was just straight up ability/knowledge of the student with no limit to being given higher grade level questions. Because of this focus on grade-level material, there is less opportunity for children who generally test higher to get tougher, above grade level questions, resulting in lower scores.

My child had their MAP-R test this week. They normally score 98-99th percentile. They said the screen to log in noticeably said "grade 6" with everyone's names when it never was linked to a grade level before. The test they said was noticeably easier, yet their score dropped about ten points. Everyone in the school was upset, many were crying, and it was the talk of lunch because everyone's scores dropped dramatically (many had drops of 17 points, over 20 points, etc). These kids were those who were scoring very high on MAP-R, had been in CES and/or enrichment the previous year.

It looks like the algorithm change also impacts MAP-M. My child has not finished, but they score 99th percentile and they said the questions were a lot easier than they normally are, and that so far, they were all 6th grade level questions or thereabouts (pythagorean theorem, interquartile ranges, dividing fractions, etc). They kept waiting to get trigonometry questions, like they got last spring, but it hasn't gotten any harder yet. So we anticipate that math scores will go down as well.

Just be prepared if your child's score drops, as it isn't necessarily their effort as much as the algorithm changes now being used by NWEA.

https://njgifted.org/understanding-nwea-maprit-scores/
https://ecragroup.com/2024/05/02/nwea-map-growth-assessment-changes-for-the-2024-2025-school-year/#:~:text=NWEA%20has%20changed%20its%20item,by%20the%20current%20test%20version.

Well that's lovely for those of us who are hoping to get in the lottery for CES this year....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some schools will rush kids through. DC's did. The only kids allowed to continue later were those with extended time. The others were told just to hurry and flip through the questions until the test ended.

That is not true.
If a kid doesn't finish MAP, they take it another day.

Our kid’s teacher said she would not allow extra time if they don’t finish by the end of class. It doesn’t seem right that some teachers allow extra time and others do not. I hope the district will make sure all teachers follow the same rules in administering the test.

That doesn't really make sense because if that happens then the test will be incomplete and not scored.

They make you end it. Believe me, it's true. All the parents were talking about how annoying it was because this happened DD at a CES and her previous school they allowed multiple sessions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid would often take multiple sessions. They were a 99%ile scorer pretty often. The test goes and goes and goes until it feels the kid is out of their depth.

Just as a heads up, NWEA changed their algorithms this year on the MAP tests. Their algorithms now emphasize grade level standards and curriculum. This means that if I child is in sixth grade for instance, they're going to get A LOT of sixth grade questions. More so than before where it was just straight up ability/knowledge of the student with no limit to being given higher grade level questions. Because of this focus on grade-level material, there is less opportunity for children who generally test higher to get tougher, above grade level questions, resulting in lower scores.

My child had their MAP-R test this week. They normally score 98-99th percentile. They said the screen to log in noticeably said "grade 6" with everyone's names when it never was linked to a grade level before. The test they said was noticeably easier, yet their score dropped about ten points. Everyone in the school was upset, many were crying, and it was the talk of lunch because everyone's scores dropped dramatically (many had drops of 17 points, over 20 points, etc). These kids were those who were scoring very high on MAP-R, had been in CES and/or enrichment the previous year.

It looks like the algorithm change also impacts MAP-M. My child has not finished, but they score 99th percentile and they said the questions were a lot easier than they normally are, and that so far, they were all 6th grade level questions or thereabouts (pythagorean theorem, interquartile ranges, dividing fractions, etc). They kept waiting to get trigonometry questions, like they got last spring, but it hasn't gotten any harder yet. So we anticipate that math scores will go down as well.

Just be prepared if your child's score drops, as it isn't necessarily their effort as much as the algorithm changes now being used by NWEA.

https://njgifted.org/understanding-nwea-maprit-scores/
https://ecragroup.com/2024/05/02/nwea-map-growth-assessment-changes-for-the-2024-2025-school-year/#:~:text=NWEA%20has%20changed%20its%20item,by%20the%20current%20test%20version.

Well that's lovely for those of us who are hoping to get in the lottery for CES this year....

With this changes, does that means more or fewer kids are likely go into the CES lottery pool this year?