SFFA doesn't like the Asian American %

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like this is what people thought would happen…that it would benefit whites the most…yet how many Asians were on this forum celebrating the end of AA.

Asians complain about model minority and them totally believe in it when convenient.

Those darn Asians, believing in transparent policies with fair standards for all

Why can’t they accept that maybe they aren’t the best applicants…

I know you have trouble comprehending this, but actually we are not all the same

Ah so unique! Next you’ll tell me Asian Americans come from different Asian countries

[Anonymous]

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Now Ed Blum's group doesn't like the decrease in admitted Asian American students at Yale, Princeton, and Duke.

This is getting ridiculous.

Excerpt from a New York Times article from today:

"The group that successfully sued Harvard to end affirmative action in university admissions last year is now threatening to investigate whether schools are complying with the new rules and to file lawsuits if it believes that they are not.

The group, Students for Fair Admissions, has focused on three universities — Princeton, Yale and Duke — where there were notable declines in Asian American enrollment this year compared with the last year, which the group said defied expectations.

On Tuesday, Students for Fair Admissions sent letters to the schools questioning whether they were complying with the rules laid out by the Supreme Court. Princeton, Duke and Yale also saw minor differences in Black and Hispanic enrollment in the first class of students admitted since the court struck down race-conscious admissions.

The group, a nonprofit that opposes race-based admissions and that represented Asian students in the lawsuit against Harvard, suggested that it was setting itself up as an enforcer of the new rules."

It's not ridiculous at all. SFFA brought the action which was successful. Scotus said stop discriminating based upon race. Colleges and universities sent out letters asserting to alumni that, nevertheless, they remained committed to diversity (but only one kind) and started playing games in the essays. Not smart to thimb your nose at SCOTUS. The numbers of asian students went down! that wasn't supposed to happen. I hope they brong a second suit for clarification. The schools are defying the ruling and putting themselves in charge of race based admissions in America.

[Anonymous]

Every poor man south of Richmond is convinced that he was just one minority away from going to Harvard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Now Ed Blum's group doesn't like the decrease in admitted Asian American students at Yale, Princeton, and Duke.

This is getting ridiculous.

Excerpt from a New York Times article from today:

"The group that successfully sued Harvard to end affirmative action in university admissions last year is now threatening to investigate whether schools are complying with the new rules and to file lawsuits if it believes that they are not.

The group, Students for Fair Admissions, has focused on three universities — Princeton, Yale and Duke — where there were notable declines in Asian American enrollment this year compared with the last year, which the group said defied expectations.

On Tuesday, Students for Fair Admissions sent letters to the schools questioning whether they were complying with the rules laid out by the Supreme Court. Princeton, Duke and Yale also saw minor differences in Black and Hispanic enrollment in the first class of students admitted since the court struck down race-conscious admissions.

The group, a nonprofit that opposes race-based admissions and that represented Asian students in the lawsuit against Harvard, suggested that it was setting itself up as an enforcer of the new rules."

It's not ridiculous at all. SFFA brought the action which was successful. Scotus said stop discriminating based upon race. Colleges and universities sent out letters asserting to alumni that, nevertheless, they remained committed to diversity (but only one kind) and started playing games in the essays. Not smart to thimb your nose at SCOTUS. The numbers of asian students went down! that wasn't supposed to happen. I hope they brong a second suit for clarification. The schools are defying the ruling and putting themselves in charge of race based admissions in America.

The percentage of Asian American accepted to these schools went up sharply when the law suit was filed. Not when SCOTUS released their decision. The schools were already ahead of it. So it's unsurprising that admissions numbers are generally flat for Asian Americans.

What is interesting is how much divergence there is with how each particular college is handling admissions in the year since the decision. There is no uniformity. Most see value to the overall educational experience of their communities when there is a broad array of students with a wide variety of backgrounds. But there is no consensus on how to achieve that presently.

And SFFA are just a bunch of political grifters out to make bank out of a hot button issue. I can assure you they do not care about the well-being of any student in America.

[Anonymous]

I mean during the original lawsuit Yale said they couldn't have a diverse class without affirmative action, yet this year they clearly have just as diverse of a class. But of these three schools, I think Duke's in more aligned with the results of the lawsuit. By focusing on low-income North and South Carolina residents, they're able to keep their Black enrollment up without breaking the law.

[Anonymous]

Of course the schools need to be monitored.
They are not above the law or anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Now Ed Blum's group doesn't like the decrease in admitted Asian American students at Yale, Princeton, and Duke.

This is getting ridiculous.

Excerpt from a New York Times article from today:

"The group that successfully sued Harvard to end affirmative action in university admissions last year is now threatening to investigate whether schools are complying with the new rules and to file lawsuits if it believes that they are not.

The group, Students for Fair Admissions, has focused on three universities — Princeton, Yale and Duke — where there were notable declines in Asian American enrollment this year compared with the last year, which the group said defied expectations.

On Tuesday, Students for Fair Admissions sent letters to the schools questioning whether they were complying with the rules laid out by the Supreme Court. Princeton, Duke and Yale also saw minor differences in Black and Hispanic enrollment in the first class of students admitted since the court struck down race-conscious admissions.

The group, a nonprofit that opposes race-based admissions and that represented Asian students in the lawsuit against Harvard, suggested that it was setting itself up as an enforcer of the new rules."

These lawsuits were always going to happen.
The selective schools were always going to push the envelope on trying to achieve diversity and groups like SFFA and PLF were always going to sue. These question are not resolved in a single litigation.
I expect there will be half a dozen cases and the shenanigans won't stop until someone loses their 501(c)(3) status, they lose federal funding, they have to pay damages or some combination of the above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like this is what people thought would happen…that it would benefit whites the most…yet how many Asians were on this forum celebrating the end of AA.

You mean like how black people celebrated brown v board but discrimination continued for years afterwards anyway?

Racial discrimination is worth fighting even if it's not fast or easy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like this is what people thought would happen…that it would benefit whites the most…yet how many Asians were on this forum celebrating the end of AA.

Asians complain about model minority and them totally believe in it when convenient.

Those darn Asians, believing in transparent policies with fair standards for all

Well….what’s the conspiracy theory now?

Well, considering the last conspiracy theory turned out to be true, maybe this one has some merit as well.

I think the theory is that schools are still trying to achieve racial diversity by targetting proxies for race.
Something that was specifically prohibited by the supreme court ruling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like this is what people thought would happen…that it would benefit whites the most…yet how many Asians were on this forum celebrating the end of AA.

Asians complain about model minority and them totally believe in it when convenient.

Those darn Asians, believing in transparent policies with fair standards for all

Well….what’s the conspiracy theory now?

Of course the new lie is that colleges are still doing AA and trying to guess race aka massive sore losers who can’t get over the fact that more than 1 race can be admitted into the Ivy League.

All races can be admitted to the ivy league. No races should get a preference.

[Anonymous]

The universities don’t have the sole mission of admitting the 1000 smartest students every year. That’s not their goal. They cannot say they thought because a lot of your heads would explode.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like this is what people thought would happen…that it would benefit whites the most…yet how many Asians were on this forum celebrating the end of AA.

Asians complain about model minority and them totally believe in it when convenient.

Those darn Asians, believing in transparent policies with fair standards for all

Well….what’s the conspiracy theory now?

Well, considering the last conspiracy theory turned out to be true, maybe this one has some merit as well.

I think the theory is that schools are still trying to achieve racial diversity by targetting proxies for race.
Something that was specifically prohibited by the supreme court ruling.

Which resulted in more white people? Nice job everyone!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Now Ed Blum's group doesn't like the decrease in admitted Asian American students at Yale, Princeton, and Duke.

This is getting ridiculous.

Excerpt from a New York Times article from today:

"The group that successfully sued Harvard to end affirmative action in university admissions last year is now threatening to investigate whether schools are complying with the new rules and to file lawsuits if it believes that they are not.

The group, Students for Fair Admissions, has focused on three universities — Princeton, Yale and Duke — where there were notable declines in Asian American enrollment this year compared with the last year, which the group said defied expectations.

On Tuesday, Students for Fair Admissions sent letters to the schools questioning whether they were complying with the rules laid out by the Supreme Court. Princeton, Duke and Yale also saw minor differences in Black and Hispanic enrollment in the first class of students admitted since the court struck down race-conscious admissions.

The group, a nonprofit that opposes race-based admissions and that represented Asian students in the lawsuit against Harvard, suggested that it was setting itself up as an enforcer of the new rules."

Nice! Keep the college cartel on its toes. Ultimate goal should be 100% transparency with the admissions process.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This isn’t about acceptance, just enrollment. Maybe fewer Asians want to attend those schools.

Just 3 of the top 15 colleges and 2 Ivies.

Yeah.....right.

Based on all the statistical models and the self confessed amicus briefs by many of these colleges, we expected to see a 50% drop in URM and a significant increase in asian admissions.
Yale specifically signed onto a brief saying that the end of racial preferences would be devastating to their URM population and there was no possible way to maintain their diversity without race conscious admissions.
So were they lying then or are they lying now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Now Ed Blum's group doesn't like the decrease in admitted Asian American students at Yale, Princeton, and Duke.

This is getting ridiculous.

Excerpt from a New York Times article from today:

"The group that successfully sued Harvard to end affirmative action in university admissions last year is now threatening to investigate whether schools are complying with the new rules and to file lawsuits if it believes that they are not.

The group, Students for Fair Admissions, has focused on three universities — Princeton, Yale and Duke — where there were notable declines in Asian American enrollment this year compared with the last year, which the group said defied expectations.

On Tuesday, Students for Fair Admissions sent letters to the schools questioning whether they were complying with the rules laid out by the Supreme Court. Princeton, Duke and Yale also saw minor differences in Black and Hispanic enrollment in the first class of students admitted since the court struck down race-conscious admissions.

The group, a nonprofit that opposes race-based admissions and that represented Asian students in the lawsuit against Harvard, suggested that it was setting itself up as an enforcer of the new rules."

Nice! Keep the college cartel on its toes. Ultimate goal should be 100% transparency with the admissions process.

Unless he has evidence, it'll end with the schools not bothering to respond to his letters