Questions emerge as to why MCPS hired drug-dealing Drew elementary teacher given prior criminal history

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher shortage. But anyone can be a teacher, sad.

Teacher shortage. But anyone can be a teacher? Sad.

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Anonymous wrote:They should be doing yearly background checks on all employees.

What do you think that would accomplish? Do you think teachers are being arrested with the school never finding out?

Apparently, they’re hiring them without realizing they have an arrest record, as was the case with Magid.

Do you a DUI/attempted DUI should disqualify someone from ever teaching?

What is MCPS’s policy on that?

DP. MCPS policy requires self-reporting of the crimes that disqualify one from teaching under Maryland law (here). DUI isn't one of those.

Teaching is a job where there's a fair amount of substance abuse, so plenty of teachers have DUIs. We can either hire teachers with DUIs or have an even worse teacher shortage, and I choose the former.

Really?! Well that is certainly news to me!

Is this the MCEA’s official stance as well?

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Anonymous wrote:They should be doing yearly background checks on all employees.

What do you think that would accomplish? Do you think teachers are being arrested with the school never finding out?

Apparently, they’re hiring them without realizing they have an arrest record, as was the case with Magid.

Do you a DUI/attempted DUI should disqualify someone from ever teaching?

What is MCPS’s policy on that?

DP. MCPS policy requires self-reporting of the crimes that disqualify one from teaching under Maryland law (here). DUI isn't one of those.

Teaching is a job where there's a fair amount of substance abuse, so plenty of teachers have DUIs. We can either hire teachers with DUIs or have an even worse teacher shortage, and I choose the former.

Really?! Well that is certainly news to me!

Is this the MCEA’s official stance as well?

It's news to you that a lot of teachers drink? You must not know many teachers.

I have no idea what MCEA says. I'm not a teacher or affiliated with the union.

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Anonymous wrote:They should be doing yearly background checks on all employees.

What do you think that would accomplish? Do you think teachers are being arrested with the school never finding out?

Apparently, they’re hiring them without realizing they have an arrest record, as was the case with Magid.

Do you a DUI/attempted DUI should disqualify someone from ever teaching?

What is MCPS’s policy on that?

DP. MCPS policy requires self-reporting of the crimes that disqualify one from teaching under Maryland law (here). DUI isn't one of those.

Teaching is a job where there's a fair amount of substance abuse, so plenty of teachers have DUIs. We can either hire teachers with DUIs or have an even worse teacher shortage, and I choose the former.

Really?! Well that is certainly news to me!

Is this the MCEA’s official stance as well?

It's news to you that a lot of teachers drink? You must not know many teachers.

I have no idea what MCEA says. I'm not a teacher or affiliated with the union.

Drinking and racking up DUIs are two different things. Responsible adults drink at the right time and right place without getting a DUI. Irresponsible adults who drink and drive risk their life and the lives of others.

Your claim that most teachers have DUIs is indeed news to me, since I did not assume most teachers would engage in that kind of reckless and dangerous behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:They should be doing yearly background checks on all employees.

What do you think that would accomplish? Do you think teachers are being arrested with the school never finding out?

Apparently, they’re hiring them without realizing they have an arrest record, as was the case with Magid.

Do you a DUI/attempted DUI should disqualify someone from ever teaching?

What is MCPS’s policy on that?

DP. MCPS policy requires self-reporting of the crimes that disqualify one from teaching under Maryland law (here). DUI isn't one of those.

Teaching is a job where there's a fair amount of substance abuse, so plenty of teachers have DUIs. We can either hire teachers with DUIs or have an even worse teacher shortage, and I choose the former.

Really?! Well that is certainly news to me!

Is this the MCEA’s official stance as well?

It's news to you that a lot of teachers drink? You must not know many teachers.

I have no idea what MCEA says. I'm not a teacher or affiliated with the union.

Drinking and racking up DUIs are two different things. Responsible adults drink at the right time and right place without getting a DUI. Irresponsible adults who drink and drive risk their life and the lives of others.

Your claim that most teachers have DUIs is indeed news to me, since I did not assume most teachers would engage in that kind of reckless and dangerous behavior.

You might want to consult a teacher about the difference between "most" and "plenty."

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Anonymous wrote:They should be doing yearly background checks on all employees.

What do you think that would accomplish? Do you think teachers are being arrested with the school never finding out?

Apparently, they’re hiring them without realizing they have an arrest record, as was the case with Magid.

Do you a DUI/attempted DUI should disqualify someone from ever teaching?

What is MCPS’s policy on that?

DP. MCPS policy requires self-reporting of the crimes that disqualify one from teaching under Maryland law (here). DUI isn't one of those.

Teaching is a job where there's a fair amount of substance abuse, so plenty of teachers have DUIs. We can either hire teachers with DUIs or have an even worse teacher shortage, and I choose the former.

Really?! Well that is certainly news to me!

Is this the MCEA’s official stance as well?

It's news to you that a lot of teachers drink? You must not know many teachers.

I have no idea what MCEA says. I'm not a teacher or affiliated with the union.

Drinking and racking up DUIs are two different things. Responsible adults drink at the right time and right place without getting a DUI. Irresponsible adults who drink and drive risk their life and the lives of others.

Your claim that most teachers have DUIs is indeed news to me, since I did not assume most teachers would engage in that kind of reckless and dangerous behavior.

You might want to consult a teacher about the difference between "most" and "plenty."

And you might want to consult a teacher about substantiating baseless claims.

How many MCPS teachers have DUIs? I bet you have no clue and yet you made your claim regardless.

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Anonymous wrote:Misdemeanor DUIs 10 years apart may not be a disqualifying factor in the hiring process. MCPS is most concerned with violent acts, acts against children, ect. More serious - probably all if not most felonies.

If they have the 360/continuous background checks done now, then anything new that pops up on their record should be sent to active employers. But I do not know how they process checks.

Even if you want to hand wave the 2010 DUI, it’s hard to justify MCPS hiring someone for driving while under the influence of “a controlled dangerous substance” two years before she was hired. Especially since schools are legally mandated to be drug-free zones.

Not really. It’s a misdemeanor. And not a strong pattern with arrests and convictions. NAL but Maryland isn’t as concerned with those. MCPS follows what many general employers follow. Most likely would disqualify her from a federal or state job though.

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Anonymous wrote:Jeff keeps deleting reports of this teacher and her drug dealing. Why?

Most likely because people are posting a link to the story without any commentary, which is against site rules: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1223795.page

As for the topic at hand, this is horrific. What in the hell was this woman thinking? I feel for the victim’s family, the Drew community, and her former students. Jesus.

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Anonymous wrote:They should be doing yearly background checks on all employees.

What do you think that would accomplish? Do you think teachers are being arrested with the school never finding out?

Apparently, they’re hiring them without realizing they have an arrest record, as was the case with Magid.

Do you a DUI/attempted DUI should disqualify someone from ever teaching?

What is MCPS’s policy on that?

DP. MCPS policy requires self-reporting of the crimes that disqualify one from teaching under Maryland law (here). DUI isn't one of those.

Teaching is a job where there's a fair amount of substance abuse, so plenty of teachers have DUIs. We can either hire teachers with DUIs or have an even worse teacher shortage, and I choose the former.

Really?! Well that is certainly news to me!

Is this the MCEA’s official stance as well?

It's news to you that a lot of teachers drink? You must not know many teachers.

I have no idea what MCEA says. I'm not a teacher or affiliated with the union.

Drinking and racking up DUIs are two different things. Responsible adults drink at the right time and right place without getting a DUI. Irresponsible adults who drink and drive risk their life and the lives of others.

Your claim that most teachers have DUIs is indeed news to me, since I did not assume most teachers would engage in that kind of reckless and dangerous behavior.

You might want to consult a teacher about the difference between "most" and "plenty."

And you might want to consult a teacher about substantiating baseless claims.

How many MCPS teachers have DUIs? I bet you have no clue and yet you made your claim regardless.

No one has this information, not even MCPS since they don't require self-reporting of that. I have an inkling, however, since I've represented more than a handful in DUI cases.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Jeff keeps deleting reports of this teacher and her drug dealing. Why?

Most likely because people are posting a link to the story without any commentary, which is against site rules: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1223795.page

As for the topic at hand, this is horrific. What in the hell was this woman thinking? I feel for the victim’s family, the Drew community, and her former students. Jesus.

She wasn’t thinking. Either she’s a sociopath or she’s deep into the throes of addiction. Either way; the whole situation is devastating all around.

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Anonymous wrote:Misdemeanor DUIs 10 years apart may not be a disqualifying factor in the hiring process. MCPS is most concerned with violent acts, acts against children, ect. More serious - probably all if not most felonies.

If they have the 360/continuous background checks done now, then anything new that pops up on their record should be sent to active employers. But I do not know how they process checks.

Even if you want to hand wave the 2010 DUI, it’s hard to justify MCPS hiring someone for driving while under the influence of “a controlled dangerous substance” two years before she was hired. Especially since schools are legally mandated to be drug-free zones.

Interesting. So would you suggest that anyone that has used illegal drugs should be prohibited from teaching?

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Anonymous wrote:They should be doing yearly background checks on all employees.

What do you think that would accomplish? Do you think teachers are being arrested with the school never finding out?

Apparently, they’re hiring them without realizing they have an arrest record, as was the case with Magid.

Do you a DUI/attempted DUI should disqualify someone from ever teaching?

What is MCPS’s policy on that?

DP. MCPS policy requires self-reporting of the crimes that disqualify one from teaching under Maryland law (here). DUI isn't one of those.

Teaching is a job where there's a fair amount of substance abuse, so plenty of teachers have DUIs. We can either hire teachers with DUIs or have an even worse teacher shortage, and I choose the former.

Really?! Well that is certainly news to me!

Is this the MCEA’s official stance as well?

It's news to you that a lot of teachers drink? You must not know many teachers.

I have no idea what MCEA says. I'm not a teacher or affiliated with the union.

Drinking and racking up DUIs are two different things. Responsible adults drink at the right time and right place without getting a DUI. Irresponsible adults who drink and drive risk their life and the lives of others.

Your claim that most teachers have DUIs is indeed news to me, since I did not assume most teachers would engage in that kind of reckless and dangerous behavior.

You might want to consult a teacher about the difference between "most" and "plenty."

And you might want to consult a teacher about substantiating baseless claims.

How many MCPS teachers have DUIs? I bet you have no clue and yet you made your claim regardless.

No one has this information, not even MCPS since they don't require self-reporting of that. I have an inkling, however, since I've represented more than a handful in DUI cases.

Ask the students. Word gets around pretty fast.

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Anonymous wrote:Misdemeanor DUIs 10 years apart may not be a disqualifying factor in the hiring process. MCPS is most concerned with violent acts, acts against children, ect. More serious - probably all if not most felonies.

If they have the 360/continuous background checks done now, then anything new that pops up on their record should be sent to active employers. But I do not know how they process checks.

Even if you want to hand wave the 2010 DUI, it’s hard to justify MCPS hiring someone for driving while under the influence of “a controlled dangerous substance” two years before she was hired. Especially since schools are legally mandated to be drug-free zones.

Interesting. So would you suggest that anyone that has used illegal drugs should be prohibited from teaching?

Ever used drugs? Depends on the drug and how long ago it was. Two years before they’re hired? Absolutely should disqualify them from being hired as a teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:Misdemeanor DUIs 10 years apart may not be a disqualifying factor in the hiring process. MCPS is most concerned with violent acts, acts against children, ect. More serious - probably all if not most felonies.

If they have the 360/continuous background checks done now, then anything new that pops up on their record should be sent to active employers. But I do not know how they process checks.

Even if you want to hand wave the 2010 DUI, it’s hard to justify MCPS hiring someone for driving while under the influence of “a controlled dangerous substance” two years before she was hired. Especially since schools are legally mandated to be drug-free zones.

Interesting. So would you suggest that anyone that has used illegal drugs should be prohibited from teaching?

Ever used drugs? Depends on the drug and how long ago it was. Two years before they’re hired? Absolutely should disqualify them from being hired as a teacher.

?? For all we know it could have been weed- which I believe is still considered a controlled substance. Not excusing this behavior, but no knows what she was taking and why that charge was the final one except those involved in the case. So as the employer, they aren’t allowed (supposed) to assume.

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Anonymous wrote:Jeff keeps deleting reports of this teacher and her drug dealing. Why?

Most likely because people are posting a link to the story without any commentary, which is against site rules: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1223795.page

As for the topic at hand, this is horrific. What in the hell was this woman thinking? I feel for the victim’s family, the Drew community, and her former students. Jesus.

There was alot of commentary. Probably deleted it because it's a personel issue that didn't effect students, which is of course absurd. She probably had drugs on her person in the classroom that children had access to.